To Arm or to Disarm.

[TheDude 10]

Comparing Obama to Hitler just shows how deranged some people are.

[MightyMouse 12]

Comparing Obama to Hitler just shows how deranged some people are.

 

It is funny to me how they compare Hitler, a NAZI, to someone, Obama, who is generally considered to be a Socialist.

 

It is also funny to me how they criticize him for pushing us toward socialism, yet they want and use all the benefits that he is providing.

[Tams 20]

"If a gun kept in a home was used, who did it shoot, and what were the consequences?"

 

Kellermann found people turned those guns on themselves and others in the house far more often than on intruders.

 

Lack Of Up-To-Date Research Complicates Gun Debate : It's All Politics : NPR

[TheDude 10]

 

This picture demonstrates just how moronic pro gun folk are.

 

It makes perfect sense why the US President needs such security guards, yet some silly hicks think they are somehow in the same predicament as the US President with nut jobs wanting to kill them? This argument doesnt display any hypocrisy, just stupidity.

[smmatrix 11]

This picture demonstrates just how moronic pro gun folk are.

 

It makes perfect sense why the US President needs such security guards, yet some silly hicks think they are somehow in the same predicament as the US President with nut jobs wanting to kill them? This argument doesnt display any hypocrisy, just stupidity.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

 

-Thomas Jefferson

[smmatrix 11]

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[TheDude 10]

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

 

-Thomas Jefferson

 

 

eeeer ok, I think the rest of the world has moved on a bit now though. And besides, it's another dead argument. One reason is because this statement could be interpreted by some wacko in the following ways:

1. go shoot the president if you dont like his policies

2. go march into the county traffic wardens office and shoot everyone to bits for giving me that bogus parking ticket.

3. Hey, my old school was a government body and they really fucked me up, and I'm such a failure, I'm gunna shoot everyone in there because I think they are a tyranny and it's all their fault'.

4. I've just been sacked by the tyranny of a fire department thats controlled by local government, so I'm gunna make a false call and shoot up everyone who comes to answer that call.

 

Another reason it's moronic is that the government have far better ways of controlling you now than with force of a gun - namely the media and tax policy.

Edited January 17, 2013 by TheDude

[smmatrix 11]

eeeer ok, I think the rest of the world has moved on a bit now though. And besides, it's another dead argument. One reason is because this statement could be interpreted by some wacko in the following ways:

1. go shoot the president if you dont like his policies

2. go march into the county traffic wardens office and shoot everyone to bits for giving me that bogus parking ticket.

3. Hey, my old school was a government body and they really fucked me up, and I'm such a failure, I'm gunna shoot everyone in there because I think they are a tyranny and it's all their fault'.

4. I've just been sacked by the tyranny of a fire department thats controlled by local government, so I'm gunna make a false call and shoot up everyone who comes to answer that call.

 

Another reason it's moronic is that the government have far better ways of controlling you now than with force of a gun - namely the media and tax policy.

 

Only a complete dumbass with a very low IQ could make assertions like those. I use to think traders had brains with analytical capabilities.

[Tams 20]

[TheDude 10]

Only a complete dumbass with a very low IQ could make assertions like those. I use to think traders had brains with analytical capabilities.

 

Unfortunately there are lot of dumbass' in the world. Only a dipshit would suggest that giving a dumbass a gun is the way forward.

 

I would have assumed anyone with any common sense or analytical ability could figure that one out; trader, dumbass or dipshit.

 

And please dont retort with 'it's unfair to the non-dumbass who wants to carry a gun', because only a dumbass would want a gun.

 

And dont give me any 'personal freedom' shit either. Lets face facts: Half of Americans cant even feed themselves properly without getting overweight and obese. If someone cant even eat responsibly and look after themselves, I dont think giving them a gun is the way forward do you?

 

Perhaps gun ownership if it must exist, should only be allowed if the individual:

Isn't poor (ie less likely to rob someone or have silly ideas)

Has above average IQ

Is able to eat a sensible diet and prove they are capable of looking after themselves.

Is able to point out various countries and cities on a map.

 

Only then, could they be trusted. But then again, I guess this would exclude 90% of people from gun ownership. Objective achieved!!

 

[Patuca 13]

i did not know you were so obese thedude! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :haha: :rofl:

[Patuca 13]

This picture demonstrates just how moronic pro gun folk are.

 

It makes perfect sense why the US President needs such security guards, yet some silly hicks think they are somehow in the same predicament as the US President with nut jobs wanting to kill them? This argument doesnt display any hypocrisy, just stupidity.

maybe the recent shooting makes perfect sense why schools need armed guards and armed teachers??:helloooo:

[MightyMouse 12]

Unfortunately there are lot of dumbass' in the world. Only a dipshit would suggest that giving a dumbass a gun is the way forward.

 

I would have assumed anyone with any common sense or analytical ability could figure that one out; trader, dumbass or dipshit.

 

And please dont retort with 'it's unfair to the non-dumbass who wants to carry a gun', because only a dumbass would want a gun.

 

And dont give me any 'personal freedom' shit either. Lets face facts: Half of Americans cant even feed themselves properly without getting overweight and obese. If someone cant even eat responsibly and look after themselves, I dont think giving them a gun is the way forward do you?

 

Perhaps gun ownership if it must exist, should only be allowed if the individual:

Isn't poor (ie less likely to rob someone or have silly ideas)

Has above average IQ

Is able to eat a sensible diet and prove they are capable of looking after themselves.

Is able to point out various countries and cities on a map.

 

Only then, could they be trusted. But then again, I guess this would exclude 90% of people from gun ownership. Objective achieved!!

 

 

The Adam Lanza kid had an IQ that was off the charts

He wasn't poor

He seemed to be lean and able to eat a balanced diet.

He attended college at 16. Likely to be able to point out countries and cities.

Unfortunately, he would be able to have a gun based on your criteria.

 

I do like the spirit of your idea.

[Patuca 13]

The Adam Lanza kid had an IQ that was off the charts

He wasn't poor

He seemed to be lean and able to eat a balanced diet.

He attended college at 16. Likely to be able to point out countries and cities.

Unfortunately, he would be able to have a gun based on your criteria.

 

I do like the spirit of your idea.

oh sh$t TheDude screwed up didn't he?

[TheDude 10]

The Adam Lanza kid had an IQ that was off the charts

He wasn't poor

He seemed to be lean and able to eat a balanced diet.

He attended college at 16. Likely to be able to point out countries and cities.

Unfortunately, he would be able to have a gun based on your criteria.

 

I do like the spirit of your idea.

 

Yeah - well there's always one thats going to slip through the net though. My ideas will stop a lot of crimes though.

[Patuca 13]

could we like... start... an idiot hall of fame thread? i would like to nominate as candidates:

 

Tams

MM

TheDude

Sundancer (aka suntrader)

 

I am not saying they are idiots... don't misunderstand...but i think they may give anyone a good run for their money...oh sh$t it is hard not to laugh! :rofl: :rofl: if they had a gun... my ass might get shot..maybe a few other areas too...:rofl: :rofl: my ass may be grassed over this post i.e. i may get banned...well if i do i guess that is that...i left this thread but kept peeking back and i fell into the temptation to post again when i saw all the BS being posted...should have just stayed away ...i suppose...bye..................................

Edited January 17, 2013 by Patuca

[TheDude 10]

maybe the recent shooting makes perfect sense why schools need armed guards and armed teachers??:helloooo:

 

Why not just ban guns? It's much simpler. If some nut job wants to kill a load of people, he will IF he has a gun. With your idea, we'll end up with a load of dead cops in a shoot out - especially if he has an assault riffle. Great thinking!

 

Besides, would you really want your kids going to a school with armed guards everywhere - permanently reminded of the horrors of this world?

 

 

C'mon folks, it's not rocket science. Look at Europe and the civilised world. People arent allowed to carry guns and there is next to zero gun crime. The murder rate is also much lower. It doesnt take Einstein to see the correlation. Remember that across the civilised world, there are all types of government - both left and right wing, Principalities, Kingdoms, Republics, etc, so you cant draw politics or any other socio-economic circumstance in to what is so bleeding obvious to a four year old!! Geddit?

[TheDude 10]

could we like... start... an idiot hall of fame thread? i would like to nominate as candidates:

 

Tams

MM

TheDude

Sundancer (aka suntrader)

 

I am not saying they are idiots... don't misunderstand...but i think they may give anyone a good run for their money...oh sh$t it is hard not to laugh! :rofl: :rofl: if they had a gun... my ass might get shot..maybe a few other areas too...:rofl: :rofl: my ass may be grassed over this post i.e. i may get banned...well if i do i guess that is that...i left this thread but kept peeking back and i fell into the temptation to post again when i saw all the BS being posted...should have just stayed away ...i suppose...bye..................................

 

 

Says the person who thinks teachers should carry guns.

 

What ever next???

[Patuca 13]

Why not just ban guns? It's much simpler. If some nut job wants to kill a load of people, he will IF he has a gun. With your idea, we'll end up with a load of dead cops in a shoot out - especially if he has an assault riffle. Great thinking!

um.. because gun bans won't stop him from getting a gun..something you can't seem to get into your peckerhead brain.

Besides, would you really want your kids going to a school with armed guards everywhere - permanently reminded of the horrors of this world?

absolutely

 

C'mon folks, it's not rocket science. Look at Europe and the civilised world. People arent allowed to carry guns and there is next to zero gun crime. The murder rate is also much lower. It doesnt take Einstein to see the correlation. Remember that across the civilised world, there are all types of government - both left and right wing, Principalities, Kingdoms, Republics, etc, so you cant draw politics or any other socio-economic circumstance in to what is so bleeding obvious to a four year old!! Geddit?/

um..me thinks you don't know sh$t about the stats..the only reason Europe exist is because of american guns:haha: :haha: :rofl:

[Patuca 13]

Says the person who thinks teachers should carry guns.

 

What ever next???

:missy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[zdo 20]

“another dead argument” TheDude

I love crowds. How many of us serial posters in this thread have noticed … ?

that the “logic” of most arguments of the To Arm posters only holds together well if you believe in ‘guns rights’ a priori ?

that the “logic” of most arguments of the To Disarm posters only holds together well if you believe in ‘gun bans’ a priori ?

(that I'm using the word :logic: quite loosely would be an understatement )

 

like

“please dont retort with 'it's unfair to the non-dumbass who wants to carry a gun', because only a dumbass would want a gun.”

 

… I guess this would exclude 90% of people from gun ownership. Objective achieved!!"

 

This thread got started and is sustained by reactions to the acts of a criminally insane person… not a dumbass. Dude, be careful who you’re calling dumbasses. It’s “dumbasses” who are sensation based enough to want to be able to react directly in such situations … the more cerebral thinking types prefer waiting for the “dumbasses’” to show up and take care of it.

 

Re: recruiting dumbasses (and whowouldwanttorecruitsdumbasses btw?)

Government Pushes Propaganda Through Video Games | Zero Hedge

Gov't wants control of the dumbasses... dumbass 'fat' is leverage.

 

Do you know what D. Umas actually said ? He said

“…better to have a gun and not be able to get to it, than not have one and … ”

 

So until we get this ‘dumbass cleansing’ thing worked out, :logic: like

 

Law and good policy prevents insanity and crimes of insanity...

 

 

so…

 

 

outlaw guns...

 

only holds together if you believe in gun control a priori

Edited January 17, 2013 by zdo

[MightyMouse 12]

could we like... start... an idiot hall of fame thread? i would like to nominate as candidates:

 

Tams

MM

TheDude

Sundancer (aka suntrader)

 

I am not saying they are idiots... don't misunderstand...but i think they may give anyone a good run for their money...oh sh$t it is hard not to laugh! :rofl: :rofl: if they had a gun... my ass might get shot..maybe a few other areas too...:rofl: :rofl: my ass may be grassed over this post i.e. i may get banned...well if i do i guess that is that...i left this thread but kept peeking back and i fell into the temptation to post again when i saw all the BS being posted...should have just stayed away ...i suppose...bye..................................

 

Patuca,

 

Don't go. I appreciate your intellectual irresponsibility. Your comments are a lesson to all of the crippling power of pride.

[Patuca 13]

Patuca,

 

Don't go. I appreciate your intellectual irresponsibility. Your comments are a lesson to all of the crippling power of pride.

:applaud: :applaud: :dito :haha: