2012 US Presidential Election

[TheNegotiator 13]

The elections are upon us. But what do we think will be different between candidates? Major economic problems are the biggest focus right now and that will be the same with any president. Either way, their ability to govern could be hampered by the house/senate. You might think some of your candidate's policies are great, but I can assure you that he will make some really dumb decisions too (unless he's not human!). So my feeling is vote for the person you feel is the most genuine in their attempts to govern and do good for their country. Vote for someone who will try help the nation's image grow in the eyes of the world. Vote for someone who will try to do the right thing when it comes to the escalating environmental issues we're beginning to face. They might not manage to succeed in all aspects of their governance, but at least if they have a good mindset, they'll be starting to move the US in the right direction.

 

Anyway, I thought I'd do a little TL poll and see if it's accurate in any way once we know the outcome.

[Perrin 10]

My cynical self voted for 'I don't think it matters who wins'. After all, they are funded by the same big corporations / institutions.

 

I'm not in the US but it would be interesting to hear what you guys on the other side of the pond think about the forthcoming election.

[TheDude 10]

vote for the person you feel is the most genuine in their attempts to govern and do good for their country.

Vote for someone who will try help the nation's image grow in the eyes of the world.

Vote for someone who will try to do the right thing when it comes to the escalating environmental issues we're beginning to face. .

 

Some great thoughts in what should steer peoples decisions. I wished every American would think along these lines.

 

Lets remember some key points:

The republicans refused to sign the Kyoto agreement and refuse to acknowledge global warming. Such ideas are bad for the oil industry, and bad for global weather changes. More republicans = more hurricane sandy type events.

 

Mitt the twit returned from a 'world tour' a few months back. He visited 7 countries including the UK and Israel. In each country, he managed to put his foot in his mouth and insult just about every world leader or its citizens with his Bush style gaffs. The world does not like, or trust Mitt the twit. A country with a fool for president reflects badly on it's business' and citizens.

 

As for who will do best for the country, well I think you just need to look at how the republicans left the country the last time, and why Obama got in in the first place - four short years ago. Mitt the twit is afterall a venture capitalist by trade. He specializes in acquiring things, then breaking them up for profit. Profit, profit, profit. Of course I'm not an anti capitalist, but on the economy and the welfare of it's people, you have to look beyond the P&L of the economy.

 

Anyway. More bayonets and horses....

[Obsidian 10]

I dont know much about Mitt Romney but...

when you see someone, you feel like there is noway you could trust him/her...

that was my first impression...

[kuokam 10]

I am with the 50% who think neither of these guys will change any thing, since they are on custody and monitored by lobbies and "brotherhoods" whose agendas might not be that sexy if made naked.

[Savant 10]

It really is unimportant who wins the elections. The lobbies from the back are to powerful. So the president is like puppet...

[Obsidian 10]

I am with the 50% who think neither of these guys will change any thing, since they are on custody and monitored by lobbies and "brotherhoods" whose agendas might not be that sexy if made naked.

 

It really is unimportant who wins the elections. The lobbies from the back are to powerful. So the president is like puppet...

 

so who wins is important..since they got different puppet masters, they will do different things

[MightyMouse 12]

so who wins is important..since they got different puppet masters, they will do different things

 

The bigger lobbyists back both sides.

[Obsidian 10]

by the way, when will we be hearing about the result?

any good online source to follow?

[TheNegotiator 13]

by the way, when will we be hearing about the result?

any good online source to follow?

 

I'm just watching the bbc site:- BBC News - US 2012 election results

 

Apparently this is the most expensive election campaign in history at something like $2.5Bl. Although generally this could be said about each sequential election, the 2012 election seems rather ridiculous. Given in USA the poverty rate currently stands at ~15% ( BBC News - US poverty rate unchanged even as incomes fall) that figure is outrageous. Anyway. I wonder what the election campaign cost chart would look like in terms of gold? Anyone seen that or fancy doing it?

[zdo 20]

With Ohio This Election's Deciding State, Here Is The Truth Behind Its "Jobs Miracle" | ZeroHedge

 

 

 

What if the presidential counts are too close to call again? :crap:

 

 

 

 

... and btw, guys, they DO have the same puppet masters... and they ain't lobbyists...

 

 

 

 

... denials...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...cynic sisms...

[Cory2679 11]

I just came across this intrade electoral map...pretty cool. Intrade currently has the odds heavily in Obama's favor.

 

US Presidential Election 2012

[zdo 20]

charles hugh smith-The Imperial Presidency

[zdo 20]

more potpouri

Voting Problems... - BlackListedNews.com

 

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Nate Silver Gives Obama a 92.2% Chance of Winning - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

 

Why Obama should want a loss on Tuesday - BlackListedNews.com

 

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And no matter who wins

7 Technologies That Will Make It Easier for the Next President to Hunt and Kill You | Danger Room | Wired.com

 

Election 2012: How The Winner Will Destroy America

 

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How the State Subverts Responsibility | Menno Troyer | Safehaven.com

 

[Obsidian 10]

Barack Obama re-elected as president of the United States after reaching 275 electoral college votes.

 

sell USD! :rofl:

[Savant 10]

Run for your life...

[TheNegotiator 13]

Well TL got it right that Obama would win but the split was clearly much closer to the percentage of votes rather than the split in Electoral College votes won. There you go.