Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

TheNegotiator

Italy is Going to Be Next.

Recommended Posts

Thanks.

:stupidquestionsmilee: :)

Why?

 

Why - in my opinion, the market will swing this way...thats all. The view is Germany is a stronger economic nation than the UK. Now a rise in the DM might be excessive enough to then negate this....but initially this might be how it goes. What will be interesting is which countries also close their borders, otherwise watch the rush of people to get out of their own countries - its not great coming from Greece (say) to the UK to work for 5 GBP and hour, but it that is suddnely worth a lot more - people may be more incentivised to move. Thats also why I think the Eurozone members realise they have to do as much as they can to not let it fail.

However, if the EUR fails and the old currencies are brought back, this is my initial opinion....but I try not to trade off those unless the prices confirm it :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

TheNegotiator -

Regarding the 3D graphic i had found that actually gives a visual of what these massive figures being trashed around by these debt laden Ponzi schemes,sorry,governments looks like is via a link.

 

3D Visualization of the US Debt | USdebt.kleptocracy.us | iTradePod

 

And if anyone wants to question my retracted use of diction check out another one from the bbc The Euro zone debt crisis is beyond repair......They all have run up riddiculous amounts of debt. The Euro web of debt- Who owes who? is what the bbc have labelled it. (Click the country to see what they owe) To me it looks like a Ponzi scheme! Someone please explain!!:doh:

 

 

BBC News - Eurozone debt web: Who owes what to whom?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

to really understand it you also need to understand when certain debts mature and how much debts cost. Plus if you said to an individual you owe $1mil but neglect to add their asset part of the equation it is only half the story.

 

Where it becomes a ponzi shceme is when people want their money back now.....and here is the rub....its not just the government running a ponzi scheme....its everyone. :doh:

 

Funding debt and unsustainability is causing the ponzi scheme the problems.....not because of interest rates, but because of the size of the debt v the ability to repay....v the ability to repay on demand.....and the issue becomes one of the governments continuing to encourage people to invest in the same way without fixing the problems.

Plus as MFG has shown all these accounts a BS anyway.

 

If the markets are a zero sum game, then what do we have to worry about right? One person losses, another gains.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
to really understand it you also need to understand when certain debts mature and how much debts cost. Plus if you said to an individual you owe $1mil but neglect to add their asset part of the equation it is only half the story.

 

Where it becomes a ponzi shceme is when people want their money back now.....and here is the rub....its not just the government running a ponzi scheme....its everyone. :doh:

 

Funding debt and unsustainability is causing the ponzi scheme the problems.....not because of interest rates, but because of the size of the debt v the ability to repay....v the ability to repay on demand.....and the issue becomes one of the governments continuing to encourage people to invest in the same way without fixing the problems.

Plus as MFG has shown all these accounts a BS anyway.

 

If the markets are a zero sum game, then what do we have to worry about right? One person losses, another gains.

 

 

Would A Ponzi By Any Other Name Smell As Bad? | ZeroHedge

 

Diabolically continuing with the "there is no next" theme...

 

"...it reflects a peculiarly American trend of burying-in-the-sand Ostrich Think, so prevalent among mainstream publications: An unwillingness – bordering on inability – to look at financial news in a cold light, and see what it actually means, rather than what we hope and pray it might be."

– GONZALO LIRA

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i came across a new saying which might just take off....and can be applied to debt.

while everyone is aware of the black swan event, what about the platypus event

 

This is the one despite all the evidence, despite the fact that its plain as day and obvious that it is real, there is a refusal to believe that what is happening is real.

 

(for those that dont know what a platypus is its a fascinating creature that when first discovered was for a long time assumed to be a hoax)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was quite surprised when mr Soros in his last speech praised Italy for something like 'good progress in fighting with fiscal deficit'. Of course mr Monti is more tough politician than mr Berlusconi but I cannot believe that he will succeed in stabilizing the debt situation in the country.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In Italy, I saw many of our brothers from different parts of Africa, sleeping and living in the park, the weather was very cold and its obvious that they were looked down upon. It made me want to cry and several questions overwhelmed my heart.   Is it not better to remain in Africa than to be homeless in this freezing cold weather?   I wish I have all the money in the world to rescue them...   Is this the reason why our skin color is looked down upon?   Do our government officials see this sight when they also travel outside of the country...does it hurt them or pain them like it pained me? By Frank Abah, Quora   Profits from free accurate cryptos signals: https://www.predictmag.com/   
    • ELV Elevance Health stock, watch for an upside gap breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?ELV
    • ORLY OReilly Automotive stock, nice top of range breakout, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?ORLY
    • Date: 28th March 2025.   Market Selloff Deepens as Tariff Concerns Weigh on Investors     Global stock markets extended their losing streak for a third day as concerns over looming US tariffs and an escalating trade war dampened investor sentiment. The flight to safety saw gold prices surge to a record high, underscoring growing risk aversion. Stock Selloff Intensifies The MSCI World Index recorded its longest losing streak in a month, while Asian equities saw their sharpest decline since late February. US and European stock futures also signalled potential weakness, while cryptocurrency markets retreated and bond yields edged lower. Investors are scaling back their exposure ahead of President Donald Trump’s expected announcement of ‘reciprocal tariffs’ on April 2. His latest move to impose a 25% levy on all foreign-made automobiles has sparked fresh concerns over inflation and economic growth, prompting traders to reassess their strategies. Investor Strategies Shift Market experts are adjusting their portfolios in anticipation of heightened volatility. ‘It’s impossible to predict Trump’s next move,’ said Xin-Yao Ng of Aberdeen Investments. ‘Our focus is on companies that are less vulnerable to tariff policies while taking advantage of market dips to find value opportunities.’ Yield Curve Signals Economic Concerns In the bond market, the spread between 30-year and 5-year US Treasury yields widened to its highest level since early 2022. Investors are bracing for potential Federal Reserve rate cuts if economic growth slows further. Long-term Treasury yields hit a one-month peak as inflation risks tied to tariffs spurred demand for higher-yielding assets. Boston Fed President Susan Collins noted that while tariffs may contribute to short-term price increases, their long-term effects remain uncertain. Gold Hits Record High as Safe-Haven Demand Rises Amid market turbulence, gold prices soared 0.7% on Friday, reaching an all-time high of $3,077.60 per ounce. Major banks have raised their price targets for the precious metal, with Goldman Sachs now forecasting gold to hit $3,300 per ounce by year-end. Looking Ahead As investors digest economic data showing US growth acceleration in Q4, attention will turn to Friday’s release of the personal consumption expenditures (PCE) price index—the Federal Reserve’s preferred inflation measure. This data will be critical in shaping expectations for future Fed policy moves. With markets on edge and trade tensions escalating, investors will closely monitor upcoming developments, particularly Trump’s tariff announcement next week, which could further dictate market direction.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Crypto hype is everywhere since it also making new riches as well, i however trade crypto little as compared to other forex trading pairs.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.