Market Profile Key Terms

[Soultrader 12]

Key terms:

 

1. Initial balance - market activity in the first hour

2. Range extension - price action extending beyond the initial balance

3. Range - range from high to low

4. Single print buying tails - any single print TPO's at the lower extreme of the profile

5. Single print selling tails - any single print TPO's at the upper extreme of the profile

6. Point of control (POC) - price level of most volume. POC indicates an area of greatest market activity

7. TPO - stands for Time Price Opportunity. Letters are used to build the market profile structure. Each letter represents a half hour period. The letter is also known as the TPO.

8. Value area - price range in which approximately 70% of the market volume took place.

9. Value high - the upper pivot of the value area

10. Value low - the lower pivot of the value area

[slableak 10]

 

I have been watching the first hour initial balance for a few weeks now and I am starting to get a feel for it. On this chart I posted the past 4 trading days. The initial balance is in the first box. I sometimes doubled the box to see how far it would travel up/down the second box in the direction of the trend. When the IB boxes were large it only trended 1/2 way into the second box. When it was small like Friday It doubled the box. Once the IB forms the price seems to make the decision if it wants to trend above/below the box by not going below/above the 1/2 way mark after the IB is formed. When it doubled the box on Friday it consolidated inside the areas of the two boxes. I am very interested in learning more about how to read the first hour IB. Any input is greatly appreciated.

[Jakew 10]

Great review of terms and a great chart. I wonder if the opening balance couldn't be defined based on the first 30 minutes of trading, just like TPOs. Isn't it true that S&P tends to choose it's direction for a couple of next hours of trading around 30 minutes after open? (the last hour of trading might change the direction again)

[drlicks 10]

Great introduction thanks!

[RAVIN 10]

  Soultrader said:

Key terms:

 

1. Initial balance - market activity in the first hour

2. Range extension - price action extending beyond the initial balance

3. Range - range from high to low

4. Single print buying tails - any single print TPO's at the lower extreme of the profile

5. Single print selling tails - any single print TPO's at the upper extreme of the profile

6. Point of control (POC) - price level of most volume. POC indicates an area of greatest market activity

7. TPO - stands for Time Price Opportunity. Letters are used to build the market profile structure. Each letter represents a half hour period. The letter is also known as the TPO.

8. Value area - price range in which approximately 70% of the market volume took place.

9. Value high - the upper pivot of the value area

10. Value low - the lower pivot of the value area

 

Followers of Mark Fisher's Pivots etc claim that their calculated pivot ranges match those of the traditional Market profile i.e 70% price action contained within those ranges, do you subscribe to that view, if so, why, if not, why?

Comments from all interested in this subject would be appreciatd

[Reaver 10]

Hmmm good question....Mark Fisher, as in the ACD guy?

 

Any comments from anyone in the know?

[ammo 10]

i'm self taught in mp,the days picture is a boob, the widest point is a nipple,these nipples when we descend after say a 2 month rise are supports or targets on the way down. Intraday when we make a second boob the cleavage in the middle is a magnet and usually the mrkt will return and fill that area,yesterday there was cleavage at 1362-64 in the es and it went back and fillled in the last half hour. If you take the ytd weekly bar chart and use it to make a very large mp chart,1 week equaling 1 letter, you will see a large gap between 1385 and 1335,85 and 35 both being nips,we will reach 1335 this week as we are backfilling the past,i don't use the 70% value area,see no use for it

[AgeKay 10]

First of all, I love how you use terms of a woman's chest. Plain and simple.

 

  ammo said:

If you take the ytd weekly bar chart and use it to make a very large mp chart,1 week equaling 1 letter, you will see a large gap between 1385 and 1335,85 and 35 both being nips,we will reach 1335 this week as we are backfilling the past,i don't use the 70% value area,see no use for it

 

Which contract do you use for longer term MP charts such as your ytd chart. What I mean is, if the front month contract has just expired, do you use the data of the previous front-month contract or of the new front-month contract?

[ammo 10]

on that ytd i use the spx,no offense if you're a female,could be drew cary's chest,i can't keep track of all the abbreviations used for different meanings on the charts,with the int rate so low the near month is trading almost equal to the spx, if you go to charthub and search around you can find ytd charts of the spx market profile,currently there is cleavage at 1258,for some unknown reason we didn't fill there today,thats also (1259) a fib # for 1200 to 1311 retracement, its only a guess but its possible that when a # doesnt hit on the way down that there were so many buyers there that they stepped up their bid and we could rally the rest of the week,some elliott wave folks are looking at sep 3 area for a significant turn in the mrkt,its a cycle date

[stalor455 10]

I use the value area in conjunction with floor trader pivots, combined they work very well for me, does anyone know of any websites where I can find the value area numbers? I like putting the value area on my chart for the next day. Thanks for any help....ST

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  stalor455 said:

I use the value area in conjunction with floor trader pivots, combined they work very well for me, does anyone know of any websites where I can find the value area numbers? I like putting the value area on my chart for the next day. Thanks for any help....ST

 

http://www.mypivots.com

[Anton 10]

  ammo said:

i'm self taught in mp,the days picture is a boob, the widest point is a nipple,these nipples when we descend after say a 2 month rise are supports or targets on the way down. Intraday when we make a second boob the cleavage in the middle is a magnet and usually the mrkt will return and fill that area,yesterday there was cleavage at 1362-64 in the es and it went back and fillled in the last half hour. If you take the ytd weekly bar chart and use it to make a very large mp chart,1 week equaling 1 letter, you will see a large gap between 1385 and 1335,85 and 35 both being nips,we will reach 1335 this week as we are backfilling the past,i don't use the 70% value area,see no use for it

 

Can we be clear please about what is meant?

 

"Boob"

 

A "Boob" to me is a mistake, a further derivativer of the word "Boob" is "BooBoo" most often used by an adult when talking to a child e.g. "you have made a booboo". if I say to someone "I've made a boob" It means "I've made a mistake"

[AgeKay 10]

He's comparing the MP distribution to a female chest. I like it b/c it's clear to everyone what he means when he describes something.

[crabbydog 10]

  Anton said:

Can we be clear please about what is meant?

 

"Boob"

 

A "Boob" to me is a mistake, a further derivativer of the word "Boob" is "BooBoo" most often used by an adult when talking to a child e.g. "you have made a booboo". if I say to someone "I've made a boob" It means "I've made a mistake"

 

boob = female breast in this context. Can be a man's breast usually on a fat man - hence term 'man boob'.

 

I know there are many female traders about, I wonder if they would use descriptions based on parts of the male anatom, I can imagine what they would use to represent an 'upthrust' :rofl:

[Anton 10]

Ok, let's be clear about this word "Boob" This word has nothing to do with breasts.

 

The word derives and originates from the following etymology:-

 

boo-boo

 

• noun, informal, a mistake.

 

— ORIGIN reduplication of BOOB

 

boob

 

• noun

. 1. British. an embarrassing mistake.

. 2. North Amererican a stupid person.

 

• verb British, make an embarrassing mistake.

 

— ORIGIN from BOOBY

 

booby

 

• noun (plural boobies)

. 1. Informal a stupid person.

. 2. A large tropical seabird of the gannet family.

 

— ORIGIN probably from Spanish bobo, from Latin balbus ‘stammering’ (as in speech to stammer or stutter).

 

 

Boob as Breast, is slang.

[karlrb 10]

I use the tpo on ibd.

[Guest Midas1]

Soul,

 

I'm looking for software that will calculate the value area - any thoughts?

[stalor455 10]

Try Emini Day Trading they have some Value Area add ons & post the Value Area daily

[gasmith7 10]

Question on the definitions; is the POC the same as the PVP? Is the PVP from the day before or a cumulative over the last wave or month or...? Thank you.