Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

wanr

Market Manipulation

By wanr, in General Trading

Recommended Posts

Jleon    10

Jleon
Posted
I keep hearing about alledged market manipulations.

 

How do they exactly do that? It is because of the size of the orders that can drive the market up or down? Is this with HFT? Who manipulates the market? Big banks and hedge funds or does it require some kind of cooperation between big players?

 

Where can I know more about that?

 

If you want to learn more about market manipulation you should open a TT Xtrader DOM and stare at it for 5-6 months 6.5 hours a day. At the end of 6 months you should know exactly what MM is. If your not willing to put in that kind of time you will most likely never understand it. Have a good one...

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Jleon    10

Jleon
Posted
people who talks market manipulation and UFO kinda things never have money for 6 months of TT subscription in first place...

 

Most do but they end up blowing it out there account in the first 6months and give up.... Better to start strong and right from the get go.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

izzahmu    10

izzahmu
Posted

maxima wants evidence. I provided you maxima with a link to a USA congress document. This document shows that the FED paid out $16 trillion to banks. Do you get that $16 trillion (trillion has 12 0's like this 16,000,000,000,000) to banks and no one in the government talked about it. They talked about tarp which was 700 billion to no end.

 

So do you consider $16 trillion manipulative to markets. If so what's the limit why would they stop at anything?

And please answer that or stop talking, because what you are pushing around not even a child trader would believe. And by the way how is your HFT doing?? do the aliens operate it? I heard UFOs have nice flat screens.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

xkr1962    10

xkr1962
Posted
maxima wants evidence. I provided you maxima with a link to a USA congress document. This document shows that the FED paid out $16 trillion to banks. Do you get that $16 trillion (trillion has 12 0's like this 16,000,000,000,000) to banks and no one in the government talked about it. They talked about tarp which was 700 billion to no end.

 

So do you consider $16 trillion manipulative to markets. If so what's the limit why would they stop at anything?

And please answer that or stop talking, because what you are pushing around not even a child trader would believe. And by the way how is your HFT doing?? do the aliens operate it? I heard UFOs have nice flat screens.

 

Haha, TL is kindergarten for traders.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Ingot54    13

Ingot54
Posted
The HFT's are getting information before everyone else can get it. The exchanges are knowingly giving the information to HFT earlier than everyone else is getting it.The exchanges understand how important early information is because they make certain that the hft's get the data at the same time as each other. They do thinks like make sure that the data cable that reaches you is the same length as the cable that reaches me if we are both HFTs who pay for the advantage to make sure that neither you nor I have an advantage over the other.

 

The trading style they use is front running and front running is illegal.

normally, front running is done inside a brokerage firm. This time it is happening to the brokerage fim before it enters the brokerage firm.

 

Looks like you are vindicated in your position on front-running and HFT MM.

 

While the SEC is only picking the low-hanging fruit on this occasion, they truly

lack the balls to go after the big guys at the top of the tree.

 

"A New York-based brokerage allowed overseas clients

to run a scheme aimed at distorting stock prices by rapidly

cancelling orders, according to the US Securities and Exchange

Commission." ... read more ...

 

SEC Says New York Firm Allowed High-Speed Stock Manipulation - Bloomberg

 

Clearly those of us on this thread who believe in market manipulation are not alone ...

 

Matt Taibbi, Eliot Spitzer Discuss Eric Holder's Failure | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone

 

I don't agree that Eric Holder has no balls ... he clearly is getting a small

amount of testerone from somewhere, but it may be from one ball, and

that one may be very small. As the top prosecutor in the USA, he has failed

to act on many issues of corruption, according to these articles.

 

No satisfactory explanation has been forthcoming to this moment, and I

am not going to hang by a rope until we get one.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

MightyMouse    12

MightyMouse
Posted
Looks like you are vindicated in your position on front-running and HFT MM.

 

While the SEC is only picking the low-hanging fruit on this occasion, they truly

lack the balls to go after the big guys at the top of the tree.

 

"A New York-based brokerage allowed overseas clients

to run a scheme aimed at distorting stock prices by rapidly

cancelling orders, according to the US Securities and Exchange

Commission." ... read more ...

 

SEC Says New York Firm Allowed High-Speed Stock Manipulation - Bloomberg

 

Clearly those of us on this thread who believe in market manipulation are not alone ...

 

Matt Taibbi, Eliot Spitzer Discuss Eric Holder's Failure | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone

 

I don't agree that Eric Holder has no balls ... he clearly is getting a small

amount of testerone from somewhere, but it may be from one ball, and

that one may be very small. As the top prosecutor in the USA, he has failed

to act on many issues of corruption, according to these articles.

 

No satisfactory explanation has been forthcoming to this moment, and I

am not going to hang by a rope until we get one.

 

Cheating has an appeal until you get caught.

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
Go To Topic Listing

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Stocks4life
      Breakout and Swing Stock Ideas

      By Stocks4life · Posted

      CVNA Carvana stock, nice top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?CVNA
    • Stocks4life
      Breakout and Swing Stock Ideas

      By Stocks4life · Posted

      GDRX GoodRx stock, good day, watch for a bottom range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?GDRX
    • HFblogNews
      HFMarkets (hfm.com): Market analysis services.

      By HFblogNews · Posted

      Date: 14th February 2025.   Can The NASDAQ Maintain Momentum at Key Resistance Level?     The price of the NASDAQ throughout the week rose more than 3.00% to bring the price back up to the instrument’s resistance level. However, while taking into consideration higher inflation, tariffs and the resistance level, could the index maintain momentum?   US Inflation Rises For a 4th Consecutive Month The US Consumer Price Index, or inflation, rose for a 4th consecutive month taking the rate even further away from the Federal Reserve’s target. Analysts were expecting the US inflation rate to remain unchanged at 2.9%. However, consumer inflation rose to 3.00%, the highest since July 2024, while Producer inflation rose to 3.5%. Higher inflation traditionally triggers lower sentiment towards the stock market as investors' risk appetite falls and they prefer the US Dollar. However, on this occasion bullish volatility rose. For this reason, some traders may be considering if the price is overbought in the short term.   Addressing these statistics, US Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell acknowledged that the Fed has yet to achieve its goal of curbing inflation, adding further hawkish signals regarding the monetary policy. Other members of the FOMC also share this view. Today, Raphael Bostic, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, stated that the Fed is unlikely to implement interest rate cuts in the near future. This is due to ongoing economic uncertainty following the introduction of trade tariffs on imported goods and other policies from the Republican-led White House.   Most of the Federal Open Market Committee emphasizes additional time is needed to fully assess the situation. According to the Chicago Exchange FedWatch Tool, interest rate cuts may not start until September 2025.   What’s Driving The NASDAQ Higher? Earnings data this week has continued to support the NASDAQ. Early this morning Airbnb made public their quarterly earnings report whereby they beat both earnings per share and revenue expectations. The Earnings Per Share read 25% higher than expectations and Revenue was more than 2% higher. As a result, the stock rose more than 14%. Another company this week that made public positive earnings data is Cisco which rose by more than 2% on Thursday. Another positive factor continues to be the positive employment data. Even though the positive employment data can push back interest rate cuts, the stability in the short term continues to serve the interests of higher consumer demand. The US Unemployment Rate fell to 4.00% the lowest in 8 months. Lastly, investors are also increasing their exposure to the index due to sellers not being able to maintain control or momentum. Some economists also increase their confidence in economic growth if Trump can obtain a positive outcome from the Ukraine-Russia negotiations.   However, during Friday’s pre-US session trading, 80% of the most influential stocks are witnessing a decline. The NASDAQ itself is trading more or less unchanged. Therefore, the question again arises as to whether the NASDAQ can maintain momentum above this area.   NASDAQ - News and Technical analysis In terms of technical analysis, the NASDAQ is largely witnessing mainly bullish indications on the 2-hour chart. However, the main concern for traders is the resistance level at $21,960. On the 5-minute timeframe, the price is mainly experiencing bearish signals as the price moves below the 200-period simple moving average.   The VIX, which is largely used as a risk indicator, is currently trading 0.75% higher which indicates a lower risk appetite. In addition to this, bond yields trade 6 points higher. If both the VIX and Bond yields rise further, further pressure may be witnessed for index traders.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Michalis Efthymiou HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Stocks4life
      Breakout and Swing Stock Ideas

      By Stocks4life · Posted

      LUNR Intuitive Machines stock watch, attempting to move higher off 18.64 support, target 26 area at https://stockconsultant.com/?LUNR
    • Stocks4life
      Breakout and Swing Stock Ideas

      By Stocks4life · Posted

      CNXC Concentrix stock watch, pullback to 47.16 triple support area with bullish indicators at https://stockconsultant.com/?CNXC
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.

  I accept