What is the Best Multi-monitor PC for Day Trading?

[TheNegotiator 13]

that's 6 GB

 

 

the 2 GB committed refers to what is used... probably due to a 32 bit app limitation.

 

 

 

ps. that's only 4 cores with multi-thread...that's why it shows up on the TM as 8 core. (4 are virtual cores)

 

Tams, look at the physical memory total. That is 2gb. Besides, 32-bit OS memory addressing limitations max out at 3.2gb not 2gb as far as I am aware. That's why before win 7/vista(i know there is 64-bit xp but it was never widely available) 32-bit xp systems often were speced with 3gb of memory. The reason I said 8 cores was that he mentions multi cpu xeons and I suspect if it is an old system, it isn't multi threaded(or hyper-) although that was just a guess.

[TheNegotiator 13]

Sorry, I noticed you said 2gb 32-bit application limitation. Don't know about that, but the physical memory pictured is definitely 2gb.

[Tams 20]

the Task Manager screen capture shows 6 GB.

 

I do not have a XP machine anymore, can't double check how the system property looks like. IIRC, it should show more than 2 GB.

 

 

btw, 32 bit OS can access 4 GB,

but under Microsoft's legacy architecture design, only approx 3.5 is usable,

and only 2 GB is available to each app.

 

 

btw (2), Xeon is the first CPU with Intel's Hype-Threading technology.

[lylec305 10]

you have eight cores and 2gb of memory? if that's your trading rig, why do you need 8 cores? if it's for charting, why only 2gb of memory? where did it come from? which xeons are they? what is the memory spec? etc etc etc etc......

 

Yeah, I don't know why it's showing 2gb ram. It actually has 4gb ram. I will look into this. I been having fairly good luck buying reburbished commerical computers. It came with 8 cores, actually 2x4 core xeons. Same appl config is over 1000 on used market.

 

http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/precn/en/spec_precn_690_en.pdf

[Tams 20]

re: 64 bit XP

 

although it shares the name XP,

it is actually a totally different OS (internally) than the 32 bit brother.

[TheNegotiator 13]

the Task Manager screen capture shows 6 GB.

 

It shows 2gb physical memory.(in both screenshots)

 

btw, 32 bit OS can access 4 GB,

but under Microsoft's legacy architecture design, only approx 3.5 is usable,

and only 2 GB is available to each app.

 

I know it's 4gb so when I said "address" my wording was off. I didn't realise it was a maximum of 2gb per application

 

btw (2), Xeon is the first CPU with Intel's Hype-Threading technology.

 

Yes I realise this, I was speculating that it was an old xeon pre-ht and this is confirmed now by lylec305.

 

re: 64 bit XP

 

although it shares the name XP,

it is actually a totally different OS (internally) than the 32 bit brother.

 

hence the problems with drivers.

Edited February 1, 2012 by TheNegotiator

[TheNegotiator 13]

Yeah, I don't know why it's showing 2gb ram. It actually has 4gb ram. I will look into this. I been having fairly good luck buying reburbished commerical computers. It came with 8 cores, actually 2x4 core xeons. Same appl config is over 1000 on used market.

 

http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/precn/en/spec_precn_690_en.pdf

 

The question I'd always ask is if you got it for 150 and yet they are going for over 1000, why is that? I know there's a chance the 1000+ systems are being unscrupulously overpriced, however, the discrepency seems to be inordinate.

[Tams 20]

It shows 2gb physical memory.(in both screenshots)

...

 

I read it again, you are right, it shows 2 GB physical. Stange.

[lylec305 10]

It shows 2gb physical memory.

I know it's 4gb so when I said "address" my wording was off. I didn't realise it was a maximum of 2gb per application

Yes I realise this, I was speculating that it was an old xeon pre-ht and this is confirmed now by lylec305.

hence the problems with drivers.

 

Whatever, this computer runs great. I'm sure there is better but for $150 bucks it does the job. I would recommend the dell precision product line. Buying reburb maybe less than building, mine was...

[lylec305 10]

I read it again, you are right, it shows 2 GB physical. Stange.

 

I will open the box and make sure the ram is seated properly. Maybe I will send pics...

[TheNegotiator 13]

I read it again, you are right, it shows 2 GB physical. Stange.

 

Especially considering it's meant to have 4gb. My guess is a loose memory module. Download cpu-z (actual latest download link btw). Look at the memory tab. If it's ddr(/2) memory and it says single in "channels#" then you know either one module(if it's a 2x2gb config) is either incorrectly seated or is faulty. If you re-insert it you'll get your full 4gb and it will run in dual mode giving you extra memory bandwidth.

[lylec305 10]

The question I'd always ask is if you got it for 150 and yet they are going for over 1000, why is that? I know there's a chance the 1000+ systems are being unscrupulously overpriced, however, the discrepency seems to be inordinate.

 

It's funny how things don't always appear as you may think. :helloooo: I would plain but I would be wasting my breath. Just accept the fact that there are bargains out there if you know what you are looking for. Now, if you read my comment carefully, :haha: You would notice I said "aapl with similar config goes for over 1k". You most likely don't know what aapl is. moving right along, buy your best deal at best buy or costo, i'm sure your mom has a membership card. Ask them for dual xeon and quad core.. :rofl:

[TheNegotiator 13]

It's funny how things don't always appear as you may think. :helloooo: I would plain but I would be wasting my breath. Just accept the fact that there are bargains out there if you know what you are looking for. Now, if you read my comment carefully, :haha: You would notice I said "aapl with similar config goes for over 1k". You most likely don't know what aapl is. moving right along, buy your best deal at best buy or costo, i'm sure your mom has a membership card. Ask them for dual xeon and quad core.. :rofl:

 

Lylec the arrogance of man never fails to surprise me. Think about what you say before you say it in future please.

[TheNegotiator 13]

A warning to anyone reading. Buy any computer on ebay for $150 for trading and you are taking a big risk. appl, dell or otherwise.(or even an appl for $1000+-we all miss things sometimes when we are actually trading lyle, so show some respect)

Edited February 1, 2012 by TheNegotiator

[Tams 20]

Computers are so cheap and powerful these days, there is really no need to penny pinch to compromise your trading activity.

 

I would not buy a used computer myself, not for trading, and not even for playing. The reason is very simple:

a "deeply discounted", most powerful dual CPU xeon of yesteryear is not nearly as powerful as a middle of the road computer of today.

 

If anybody wants to save some money on computers, the only place I would trust is Dell refurb. They often have "new" computers, either due to overstock, or corporate customer restocks. Make sure you buy current models and not end of line computers.

[lylec305 10]

A warning to anyone reading. Buy any computer on ebay for $150 for trading and you are taking a big risk. appl, dell or otherwise.(or even an appl for $1000+-we all miss things sometimes when we are actually trading lyle, so show some respect)

 

We all need to earn respect not demand it. Before critisizing, get all the facts straight. without all the facts. How can anyone say $150 computer is bad when you are on a thread with someone that has one with 8 core xeon. I never said I bought mine on ebay.

 

System displays 2gb ram is normal for win32 XP. As long as bios displays 4gb installed.

[TheNegotiator 13]

lyle, don't get all defensive. I never actually said a $150 computer by definition is bad. Our jobs as traders is to look at all possibilities. Just remember that while the people posting on this thread may have some experience here, others who read it may not. These people may not be so lucky if they get a refurb.

 

And as for your comment about respect, whether you like it or not everyone here is required to treat all other users with respect. You don't have to always agree with people. That's fine.

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences and opinions and your comments will be noted.

[lylec305 10]

lyle, don't get all defensive. I never actually said a $150 computer by definition is bad. Our jobs as traders is to look at all possibilities. Just remember that while the people posting on this thread may have some experience here, others who read it may not. These people may not be so lucky if they get a refurb.

 

And as for your comment about respect, whether you like it or not everyone here is required to treat all other users with respect. You don't have to always agree with people. That's fine.

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences and opinions and your comments will be noted.

 

Checkout dell refurb website for commercial grade hardware at reasonable prices. Lookout for sales, they drop the price buy an additional 50%...

[lylec305 10]

Computers are so cheap and powerful these days, there is really no need to penny pinch to compromise your trading activity.

 

I would not buy a used computer myself, not for trading, and not even for playing. The reason is very simple:

a "deeply discounted", most powerful dual CPU xeon of yesteryear is not nearly as powerful as a middle of the road computer of today.

 

If anybody wants to save some money on computers, the only place I would trust is Dell refurb. They often have "new" computers, either due to overstock, or corporate customer restocks. Make sure you buy current models and not end of line computers.

 

My experience with HP and Dell purchased at the consumer level last a few months pass the warrante. But I have an old HP kayak workstation i bought new with dual P3, 13 yrs a go that's still running. Maybe you had better luck than me. I will take a dell precision over a dell insperon anyday. Totally differant class but they come with similar configs.