. Holy Grail, Current Edition

[DAVT 10]

I may have been under the assumption that this ability to never lose with + gains north of 100% was basic knowledge of "Market Movers". Tick accurate results and verified returns Net in the hundreds to thousands % is now more or less a REAL HG. Now, thanks to some responders, I have a better understanding why I have been having difficulty with programmers/traders. It isn't that the method is commonplace and needs to be ignored/suppressed, but that it is a real HG and that no one can understand what every one has been told can Not exist. Yes, tick accuracy that self adjusts and has remained tick accurate, because of this self adjusting ability, to the present day on most all markets most all time ever since the day it was created. Thanks to the responders for the help in getting this. Now the 93% of losing traders and even those reliant on strategies that degrade to the mean with time can actually make money. Space is limited. Unfortunately, there does have to be losers to take the other side of the trade.(It still needs to be played. Look closely at my posts that show the tick accuracy. How would you play it?) (Live room still needs some administrators, since I have no desire to run it by myself. It is free to enter and live voice signals with some explanation will be available. The only thing I am asking now is that you remain civil or risk being banned, possibly forever) (Remember, thanks to lawyers, no live trades will be called at this time in the room, but the "signals" will be live.)

Merry X Mass

[DAVT 10]

See ES15PR..., it is what happens with real time "signals". Yes, 1 ES contract played 31 times 11/24/11 for $8,605 NET profit for the day. More than 172 ES points in 1 day NET. Can't get much better than that? Live room is small with limited capacity. It is "FREE" to enter, if you want to see this HG-CE played live.

[UrmaBlume 10]

See ES15PR..., it is what happens with real time "signals". Yes, 1 ES contract played 31 times 11/24/11 for $8,605 NET profit for the day. More than 172 ES points in 1 day NET. Can't get much better than that? Live room is small with limited capacity. It is "FREE" to enter, if you want to see this HG-CE played live.

 

Please sign me up for your room.

 

172 points in 31 trades with 100% hit rate is remarkable on any day but to have done it on 11/24 which was the Thanksgiving Holiday and the market only traded an abbreviated holiday session makes it even more noteworthy.

 

UrmaBlume

[Tams 20]

See ES15PR..., it is what happens with real time "signals". Yes, 1 ES contract played 31 times 11/24/11 for $8,605 NET profit for the day. More than 172 ES points in 1 day NET. Can't get much better than that? Live room is small with limited capacity. It is "FREE" to enter, if you want to see this HG-CE played live.

 

when people say "net profit", they mean cold hard cash in the bank.

 

I just want to clarify, do you mean cold hard cash?

 

or do you mean could have, would have, should have?

 

 

You don't have to make a straight forward and direct to the point YES or NO answer if it is too embarrassing for you, I understand, I have seen lots of posts like this on anonymous forums. If you don't feel comfortable answering, you can just ignore this question. If you do answer, I promise you I will not ask for your brokers' statement as proof. I will assume your word is as good as gold.

Edited December 27, 2011 by Tams

[DAVT 10]

The statement is by TS. It is only as accurate as TS. It is only giving a "verified" daily return on real-time actual data on the ES as computed by TS and, yes, NET for that day. It is actually a very good day, although not the best and it is real-time for that day as "verified" by TS. Using the method, I have not had a losing day, including today.

[Tams 20]

The statement is by TS. It is only as accurate as TS. It is only giving a "verified" daily return on real-time actual data on the ES as computed by TS and, yes, NET for that day. It is actually a very good day, although not the best and it is real-time for that day as "verified" by TS. Using the method, I have not had a losing day, including today.

 

no, I did not ask if the statement is by TS real account or TS sim account or TS built-in account.

 

I ask if it is cold hard cash booked.

 

 

 

 

...like Judge Judy said, "mmm" is not an answer.

[Tams 20]

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Actually you don't need to reply any further... I have got the message in your answer. It is not cash you are talking about.

 

Thank you very much. ;-)

 

 

 

 

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[MightyMouse 12]

Please sign me up for your room.

 

172 points in 31 trades with 100% hit rate is remarkable on any day but to have done it on 11/24 which was the Thanksgiving Holiday and the market only traded an abbreviated holiday session makes it even more noteworthy.

 

UrmaBlume

 

Urma that is probably the funniest thing i have ever seen on this site. Thank you for pointing it out.

[DAVT 10]

Today 1/10/12 a typical good day. See 4 posts. DI top tick sell and bottom tick buy. along with YM martix and TF PR. Yes, the method remains as tick accurate as the market from which it is derived. It is quite evident with the verified TS results of 1,967.85% net AROR from my current live trading chart from today. How can this be so, simply because the method is that accurate, precise and profitable in fact.

Now there still seems to be "Pompous Fool" comments here......................................................

 

""I would expect astrologist/meteologist type of talk.... ie no commitments and no liabilities.

... Eclipse season is here, and surprising events are popping up everywhere. Fortunately, these solar and lunar events are due to be somewhat easier for you to experience than the ones that occurred last year....

... it will be sunny tomorrow, with a chance of shower.

... if the buying volume does not come in the next few ticks, the market will turn.

Since I cannot see what he is talking about with his one-candle screen caps, and he won't explain it, I can not comprehend it. And yet, it is staring me in the face...

So maybe his point is that there is nothing there at all, and if I look to him for a Holy Grail, I am in fact, a fool.

Thank you Master, you have helped me achieve enlightenment! that is probably the funniest thing i have ever seen on this site.""...............................................................................................................

 

or is it actually deliberate babble to misinform/misdirect and mislead? I wonder.

Surely, I can not be the only one here that has figured out how the market is run to the tick. All the tick accurate lines and signals that the method shows are merely a manifestation of the programming of the market moving computers. Since all this market movement is programmed and someone has to be doing all the programming, obviously someone (worst than a mere pompous fool) would not want others to know this.

So I wonder if the babble above is mere "Pompous fool" babble or much more sinister babble. I wonder.

In any case I can see how those espousing such babble have been able to effect 93% of all traders not to be profitable. On the other hand, this method has not given me a losing day since it was created.

[UrmaBlume 10]

.Actually you don't need to reply any further... I have got the message in your answer. It is not cash you are talking about.Thank you very much. ;-).

 

Tams,

 

I had almost an hour on the phone with this guy and given that conversation and the non sequitur/disjointed nature of his verbage both here and in that conversation my opinion/best guess that it is much more a matter of meds or the lack of them than it is a matter of cash/not cash.

 

...........Yes, 1 ES contract played 31 times 11/24/11 for $8,605 NET profit for the day. More than 172 ES points in 1 day NET.............

 

IMHO A claim of 172 ES points in 31 successful trades in holiday trading on Thanksgiving Day pretty much says it all.

 

cheers

Edited January 11, 2012 by UrmaBlume

[Tams 20]

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............ L. O. L. ....... ............

 

 

I hope he doesn't stop. This is as entertaining as that "I am very successful" Predictor guy.

[DAVT 10]

I am back from reviewing everything I could find on the Internet and have concluded that my method is heads and shoulders more accurate than anything I could find on the Internet. See "DIA25762". It is my method showing a sell and a buy 7/6/12. The buy is at the 126.96 buy line where my real time signal appeared as the Diamonds hit 126.97. Now that happens to be the exact low of the markets in both the NQ and the TF. NQ35C782 and TF35C782 show those hit to the tick at the same time the Diamonds were signaling the buy. Yes market bottoms in both the NQ and the TF. YM35C.... and TFMAT.... are just 2 more enjoyable pictures of the method in action. TFEC355..... is the equity graph of the net of the TF profit report TFPR35....., that shows $65K+ net profits after more than $2,200 in commission and more than $ 10,600 was subtracted in slippage to arrive at the net profits. Why the large slippage? Simply because I want to beat the TS generated profit reports in real time trading. See TFMAT.... above for R/T trading that can beat the TS generated P/R with slippage.

 

Yes, I placed those lines there on the charts, because I wrote the TS scripts that generated them and I placed the real time signal arrows on those charts again because I wrote the TS scripts that does that.

 

I came here simple looking for new friends and have been labeled a fraud. Why? May be I presented my method too simply and made it sound too easy. It is not that easy, but definitely doable.

 

I am still looking for new friends. I do not need any more "pompous fools" who claim to know the markets, but only want to waste my time telling me how little they know. I simply would like some trading buddies to use my method to see how it can best be played. I am not a market know it all, I simply have the best/most accurate trading tool I can find anywhere. NEW FRIENDS WANTED.

[DAVT 10]

Both charts dated 7/8/12 are from 7/6/12.

[DAVT 10]

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I do not know what others think a real “HG” should do. All I know is that the method, I have been showing here, is better than anything else I can find anywhere. It remains tick accurate, ever since I created it. Now there are some who claim that everybody has the ability to do tops and bottoms to the tick each and every day and if I simply showed them mine, they would show me theirs Imagine that. Then there are those who say to simply send them the method, so that they can check it on their computers and if they like it, they will send me all the non disclosure forms. But only after they know, if it works on their computers. Imagine that.

Some questioned how a 15 minute or larger chart that I showed was very useful, but I posted it to demonstrate only and I trade off a smaller trading chart that I have posted the tick accurate trades.

Some wondered if real trading was possible with the method, so I posted TS matrix shots of trades very close to the tick highs and lows.

Some questioned the objective power of the method, so I posted NET TS profit reports that do better than anything else I can find on the Internet by leaps and bounds.

I consistently said that I was interested in new friends. Yes, I have an ulterior motive. I said that it wasn't as easy as I made it appear and well it isn't. One actually has to sit in front of screens all trading day and tap the mouse while concentrating on what the method is showing that the market movers are doing with the market at the tick level and then follow the real time signals that I have posted. A lot of work and I may be out of place, but I was hoping I could find someone who would do that for me at times, so I could do more market studies, etc. New Friends Wanted.

Yes, a tick accurate method that has not lost any money any day since I created it and it is as tick accurate today as the day I created it. Yes, it is not perfect and I at times struggle to do better than 90% accuracy in real world conditions, but my win to loss ratio and profit factor are quite high as you should have seen on the NET profit reports.

Then there is another thing. May be I am just a genius and I am the only one who con see and read the real time signals that I have posted. (I doubt that.) But I was hoping that a few real traders would be willing to try it out on my terms to see, if you have what it takes. NEW FRIENDS WANTED!!!!

I am after all curious to see if the batch of day traders on this forum, that are producing about a 93% failure rate following all the market gurus selling strategies and indicators out there, might actually be 100% profitable as I am able to be “daily” with this method. New friends wanted.

See DI6.... chart an then the YM3... real time sell sig at market open 8/1/2. Both sigs going off right above the red and white sell lines. NEW FRIENDS WANTED.

Then I am not a programmer and I was hopping a real programmer would be interested. It takes me hours of struggle just to get the programming from multiple time frames and markets to synchronize. (new friends wanted)

Then I am a people person and would like company trading. NEW FRIENDS WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DAVT 10]

Well another typical day watching the market movers move the market to the tick Friday 8/3/20012.

See the 3 screen shots from Friday. DI30C... is screen shot of the DI 30 MINUTE chart signal going off just before my trading chart signaled the top tick for the day of 131.07 chart DI35C832. You can not get better accuracy than that. Chart DI35C8322 is the screen shot of my trading chart at close Friday 8/3/2012 which points to the closing tick of the market that day. Yes, the real time arrow went off a second or 2 before the close just to remind me that that was the closing tick. Can not get much more accurate than that. (Yes, the blue lines are the sell lines on the charts before the confirming real time arrows appear to show that the lines are valid by the market movers.) Now I do not know how many on this forum have as good of trading tools that I am using. All I know is that I have probably the most accurate of any. Call it a “HG”?

I do know that whomever is programming the market movers computers knew those ticks and I knew them because that is what my method shows me, but how many on this forum knew them Friday?

Now I have a free room where I would like to invite all that are not “pompous fools” that think they know how the market works nor “nay saying” ignoramuses and do not comprehend how the market is computer driven to the tick. There I would like to conduct a real discussion of the actual way the market is driven by the market movers and how to best trade it profitably. Thanks.

BTW:NFW(new friends wanted)

[bakrob99 11]

It's the same chart you posted two months ago.

 

Answer me this... if you're using 15 minute bars to trade on ..then why do your strategy performance reports have up to 42 Bars in a day trading system?

[bobcollett 10]

Please help , somebody.

How do you unsubscribe from a thread?

bobc

[DAVT 10]

Great day in ES 8/7/2012 with1397.25 buy and 1403.25 sell. I do not know if your signals are more accurate than that, but those were mine for the day. NFW.

I think I have gotten down tops and bottoms for the markets good enough, now I would like to turn more attention to the in between market swings. That takes more concentration and I would like to know if any here are up to helping? I do realize that you will probably have to give less attention to the market gurus that are showing about 93% of you how to lose all your money, but that is the trade off. If you are willing to make money trading each and every day instead of following your guru, than NEW FRIENDS WANTED.

[DAVT 10]

BAK....., The PR are from TS. They are given to show the NET profit as calculated by TS objectively. I trade off multiple time frames and the one I like is 15 minutes. Also those last charts are not old charts. They are relevantly recent 8/3/2012 charts. They may look like previous charts, because showing tick accurate tops and bottoms does look all alike at times.

[bakrob99 11]

BAK....., The PR are from TS. They are given to show the NET profit as calculated by TS objectively. ...

 

I understand that as I have written a conservative estimate ... 1000's of strategies in TS (only found 2 that worked over time). But the report clearly shows that you are not exiting before the close and I thought you were discussing a daytrading system

[DAVT 10]

There looks like there is a little confusion about the term “Pompous Fool” when applied to those that are on the forum. Pompous fool only refers to those who claim to know how the market works and give others advice as to how that goes, but obviously do not or are possibly misleading. A prime example is all the pompous fool gurus who state for traders to take the 9:00 breakout as a trading strategy. Now look to the market 8/16/12. Practically everyone who listened to and took the advice of the pompous fool gurus lost money with that strategy. On the other hand the market movers issued a buy signal at about 3 minutes after 9:00 real time at exactly the bottom tick of the market and took the market all the way to the top of the market when they issued another real time signal to sell the market at the exact top tick.

So what I am saying is, that the pompous fool gurus herd all the traders into losing trades, that the market movers use to get the market to move where they want it to move and in the process about 93% of those pompous fool guru follower lose their accounts to the market movers.

Now multiply that times all the strategies that the “Pompous Fool Gurus” advise all the traders on this forum and you might just get an idea of how the market is run by the market movers to the tick as my method shows real time. Why did I create it? Simply because I wanted a real method, not a “Pompous Fool” method, that actually makes money every day by simply following the market movers at the tick level and to the tick. I have succeeded not to lose money in any day since I created the method. It is a full method and not just a strategy, however there are strategy components that I have posted here that show objectively according to TS what it is capable of yielding. (See my posts.)

Since this is simply how the market works, that is why I have created a method to follow the market movers at the tick level and to the tick as all my pretty pictures and posts have shown. Now if you want to see pictures of that real time bottom tick market mover buy (about 13120 YM on 8/16/12) and the market mover top tick sell (about 1415.5 ES (and 2774 NQ) on 8/16/12) in the YM and ES respectively, then you will have to come into my room. I do not want to waste my time posting twice for “Pompous Fools” to make foolish/ignorant/malicious comments. New Friends Wanted.

I make no claim as to knowing when or where the market movers take the market. All I have is a method that shows real time and to the tick where and when the market movers are taking the market. New friends wanted.

[bobcollett 10]

Hi DAVT

How did you enjoy the GlassOnion thread?

regards

bobc

[DAVT 10]

Yes, the market movers actually used all the buying back at a loss of all the “Pompous Fool Guru” followers to drive the market up for their profits on 8/16/12. Multiply that times all the strategies that the “Pompous Fool Gurus” give on this forum and you just might see not only how the market is run (Yes, about 93% of all the Pompous Fool Guru” followers lose their money this way to the market movers.), but also why my method makes money every day and is so tick accurate. After all the market movers actually use computers that are simply put “tick accurate” to do this and if a method follows those computer generated trades at the tick level, it will also be tick accurate. (See my tick accurate posts. (and look at the TS PR that shows NET profits objectively according to TS.)) (Is this a HG????) NEW FRIENDS WANTED.

[DAVT 10]

OK, I am not a professional presenter and I do not consider myself to be a market Guru nor a Professional trader. All I have done is present a working method that I created in an attempt to best see how the markets are moved by the market movers. The method is real, but not for sale and I have no intention of simply giving it away, since I use it myself.

All the TS PR are also real and are NET with more than real world slippage subtracted to insure that real world trading can do as well.

The presentation/ method has been criticized extensively (and so far, in my opinion, nonsensically for the most part ) (I think most of the criticism is rooted in the criticizer never even remotely achieving even close to the posted NET results), but the reason I came here was to show and to get real trading friends. Since the method only follows the market movers at the tick level to the tick and executes when they execute, it could be improved. Yes, no daily losses for the method to date, but no prediction for the future .

I do realize that TS has severe limitations, but the profit reports are as real as it is and as said, NET non optimized and not back-tested.

Since, I was asked to give a larger view of the method, I am posting the 9/7/12 premarket method real time signals that yielded about 144 premarket points. Now I do not know how many on this forum do better than that daily, but this is typical for the method. I do know that about 93% of all day traders lose their money to the market movers and all I wanted to do is to be consistently on the right side of all winning trades. I succeeded,

Educational value, well how often do you see on this or any forum presented in any way a possible HG? New friends wanted.

[DAVT 10]

Fed day 9/13/12. Went like this. I think everybody knew the Fed was doing another !QE, so 2 hours into the market and the market movers took out the last upward resistance and gave the come back sell sig at 1439.50 ES (not shown). Looking for a buy signal. About ½ hour waiting and there it is 1436.25 ES (see ES5C...) about mrk bottom. Question is how high. Next day, there it is one tick above market top sell line, see ES top sell sig 1474.50 ( ES35C...) and TF matrix sell top. But how low? There it is mrk bottom buy see NQ chart (NQ35...) and matrix 4848.50 NQ buy 2 ticks from bottom. Yes, just a typical two days trading with the HG. Now how many others here were in trading rooms that were this tick accurate during the last 2 days? How nice it would have been, if I could have found such a room other than mine these last few years. New friends wanted,