Stress Makes You Stupid

[Tradewinds 12]

Studies have been done that show the neural networks in a stressed out monkey have fewer branches than in a less stressed monkey. So stress can make you stupid. Oh, and it makes you fat too.

[ahimsa 10]

Studies have been done that show the neural networks in a stressed out monkey have fewer branches than in a less stressed monkey. So stress can make you stupid. Oh, and it makes you fat too.

 

 

Yes and stress make you more old ,because is one of principal causes of ossidative stress.its important to have a good lifestyle and eat without fat ,eating many fruits and vegetables and drink almost 2 L daily water.and make sport not many hours a day after 30 years old.evitating also many sun exposition without 50 sun protection.clearly the drugs use and alcool abuse :thumbs down: is neither to take in consideration,for live better.

[Tradewinds 12]

But does trading stress make traders stupid and fat? Hmmm? That would be an interesting study. I'd think it would be difficult to be stupid and be a successful trader.

[JEHs 10]

But does trading stress make traders stupid and fat? Hmmm? That would be an interesting study. I'd think it would be difficult to be stupid and be a successful trader.

 

On the other hand, I think "stupid" is a relative thing. Just because one can not trade does not make them stupid and if one can trade successfully, they might still be considered stupid in some circles.

 

I remember associating with a guy a whiile back who, from all I could tell, (but does one ever really know?), was a successful trader, but, but his use of the English language and some of his reasoning's, you would assume he was stupid.

 

I have been continually amazed in my near 50 years on this planet, (a very short time indeed), that everybody has something to learn from everybody. Time and time again, I come to think I am smarter than some person and they turn out to surprise me in some way.

 

I'm sure there are people who make a living trading, that, if I were to sit and have a conversation with, I would consider stupid. And I'm sure there are people who could never be successful traders that I would consider to be very smart.

 

I think everybody, stupid or not, has their area of expertise, weather it be an auto mechanic, plumber doctor, or "artist" or trader or whatever... If we can become a successful trader, does that make us smarter than someone else who can fix a leaky faucet efficiently?

 

...after reading this, I see that I am way off topic from the original post, but after a couple beers i figure, what the heck, I'll post it anyway...

 

John

[Tradewinds 12]

...after reading this, I see that I am way off topic from the original post, but after a couple beers i figure, what the heck, I'll post it anyway...

 

John

 

No, I don't think you are way off topic. Actually, you bring up some very interesting points about the personalities of traders. If everyone here in cyberspace at TL met at a convention in person, I'm sure we would have a very different understanding of each other.

 

I think that how a trader deals with stress, and their personality would be very interesting. In many ways, a "regular job" is a lot more stress than taking some draw down, or having to cut your losses. It's just a different kind of stress.

[tucciotrader 10]

Yes and stress make you more old ,because is one of principal causes of ossidative stress.its important to have a good lifestyle and eat without fat ,eating many fruits and vegetables and drink almost 2 L daily water.and make sport not many hours a day after 30 years old.evitating also many sun exposition without 50 sun protection.clearly the drugs use and alcool abuse :thumbs down: is neither to take in consideration,for live better.

 

molto divertente :haha:

[Rande Howell 10]

But does trading stress make traders stupid and fat? Hmmm? That would be an interesting study. I'd think it would be difficult to be stupid and be a successful trader.

 

Stress, as understood in neuro-biology, is actually a physiological state indicating biological arousal or being keyed up for action. Stress is further broken down into two kinds. Distress and eustress. The difference between the two is the mind set that interacts with the physiological state. In distress the uncertainty of a situation is engaged with negative appraisal of the future (read fear of loss). This is called anxiety, or in trading it is called worry or fear. In eustress the uncertainty of the future is meet with a positive appraisal of a potentail outcome.

 

Adding one more distinction about stress as applied to trading. The level of arousal necessary for optimum performance is based on the level of physical or cognitive functioning needed for peak performance. In sports such as American football, where the requirements of peak performance are very physical, high levels of eustress are needed to produce optimum performance. Whereas in such pursuits as bridge, chess, and trading, where their is little need for physical performance, low levels of arousal are needed for cognitive peak performance. The problem is that the high levels of adrenaline and cortisol are not conducive to calm, impartial thinking so needed for evaluation of ambiguity (effective trading mindset)

 

Rande Howell.

 

Hope that helps.

[ahimsa 10]

But does trading stress make traders stupid and fat? Hmmm? That would be an interesting study. I'd think it would be difficult to be stupid and be a successful trader.

 

 

tradewinds ,have you get fat in this days ?maybe is your brain....:rofl:

[Tradewinds 12]

tradewinds ,have you get fat in this days ?maybe is your brain....:rofl:

 

No, I've never had a weight problem. I don't gain weight. My brain may be atrophying though. :rofl: When I imagine what a trader looks like, I don't imagine someone who has gained a lot of weight. Even though it's a sedentary type of work, I don't picture traders as being overweight. I picture traders as people who want something more out of life, and may want to take good care of themselves. I picture traders as people with higher standards somehow, and striving for something other than average.

So that image I have of the typical trader, and the effects of stress don't seem to be totally in sync. I guess that is part of what is interesting to me.

[ahimsa 10]

molto divertente :haha:

 

 

Dear tuccio trader i don't see nothing of funny in this post,its only the true,you don't know the ossidative stress?there are some doctors that wrote some books about it.you can read and after if you don't take vantage you can make A BIG LAUGHING ........

[Tradewinds 12]

Stress is further broken down into two kinds. Distress and eustress.

 

Rande Howell.

 

Hope that helps.

 

I did not know that. That's interesting. Very interesting. Thanks for that information. I also found this definition:

 

Eustress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ahimsa 10]

No, I've never had a weight problem. I don't gain weight. My brain may be atrophying though. :rofl: When I imagine what a trader looks like, I don't imagine someone who has gained a lot of weight. Even though it's a sedentary type of work, I don't picture traders as being overweight. I picture traders as people who want something more out of life, and may want to take good care of themselves. I picture traders as people with higher standards somehow, and striving for something other than average.

So that image I have of the typical trader, and the effects of stress don't seem to be totally in sync. I guess that is part of what is interesting to me.

 

Yes,i'm joking about it ,some people said that if you gain weight can depends from the activity of brain IF .You are a trader so you live your state of being trader like you are.if you are a people that take cure about you,and love to see you ever in good mould ,you'll have a

kind of lifestyle,you make sport,don't eat fat foods and don't cooking with fat.Lovely your description,that you imagine traders people that want some more out of life.maybe you are so ,maybe you don't think like become many rich ,but maybe you are more interesting at the consequence ant the effect that trading can product.I like observe ad exemple in this time some effect that trading has on sex and on the pairs sex activity.I talk so because i can observe that in many period of year sex are less importance if you don't take in consideration like a good lifestyle.Trading some time can killed sex activity in the people.My personal opinion how i live so.

[Tradewinds 12]

Trading some time can killed sex activity in the people.My personal opinion how i live so.

 

I think that being a successful trader, at least for a man, would make him have a better image of himself. A man's self worth can be tied to his ability to provide for a wife and family. And that ability to provide, can be tied to his self-worth, and the self-worth can be linked to interest in sex.

 

This is out of my "comfort zone", and I'm pushing my limits here. I think we are venturing from PG, to R rating now. :rofl:

[chuckaltair 10]

I think many are missing an important aspect of stress; particularly if one is under capitalized and trading. It is almost a self fullfilling prophecy that such a one is going to fail. Why? Because of increased stress, which makes one do stupid things while trading, and those stupid things one does while being stressed quickly deplete your trading account. How many accounts have you blown by being stupid because you were trading with too little capital? Obviously, I am not saying you are stupid; only that you or I do stupid things while being stressed. It is extemely difficult to not be stressed while in a trade if you have little money to trade with, and if stressed your chances of success fall exponentially. Sure it is easy to suggest, "Well, you shouldn't be trading in the first place." But, some are not as fortunate as others. I am sure there are many out there struggling to make it with too little going for them. To those I would suggest making sure you achieve discipline and patience and taking the time to work on those two aspects before trading with real money. Stress can kill you in more ways than I can count.

[ahimsa 10]

I think that being a successful trader, at least for a man, would make him have a better image of himself. A man's self worth can be tied to his ability to provide for a wife and family. And that ability to provide, can be tied to his self-worth, and the self-worth can be linked to interest in sex.

 

This is out of my "comfort zone", and I'm pushing my limits here. I think we are venturing from PG, to R rating now. :rofl:

 

 

Its true your definition but for me i would like add that for would have a better image of

us,there aren't difference between woman and man is an.. for me a big respect of ourself .a part of trading or life in generis.

I meant another thing about the trading and his consequence interest in sex.in people.

[Do Or Die 10]

Stress is certainly bad for perceiving ability. Food and lifestyle can effect levels of stress.

 

Drinking, junk food and porn all increase stress.

 

Learning new sports or arts, adventure sports, yoga, a vacation in peace & solitude can help reduce stress.

 

[T2CTrading 10]

Stress does make you "stupid" in a sense as it impairs your brain function.

 

This is why we need a trading plan and to follow it. When we are in a trade our stress levels go up and we are able to make progressively worse decisions.

 

Our brains suffer an amygdala hijack and we are not able to process new information, the same happens when we are angry and have a difficult time thinking of words.

 

Amygdala hijack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Daniel Goleman is an expert on this subject, a good read. This is very applicable to trader's and their decision making abilities.

[khamore1 10]

Stress causes a hair loss too…. I use “Rogaine”

[tradelab03 10]

the best way to handle stress is by getting into the stock market well-prepared for what it will hurl your way. You need the right education, experience, tools and mindset for this. When we are mentally prepared for a trading day we are less likely to experience stress. Similar to the surgeon, you have to know what you will do in case the market goes against you. You have to know how you will handle yourselves throughout your trading day.

[smithhelen 10]

stupid, nervous breakdown. keep calm!

[nhn 10]

the best way to handle stress is by getting into the stock market well-prepared for what it will hurl your way. You need the right education, experience, tools and mindset for this. When we are mentally prepared for a trading day we are less likely to experience stress. Similar to the surgeon, you have to know what you will do in case the market goes against you. You have to know how you will handle yourselves throughout your trading day.

 

Perfectly put. I wouldn't consider a person who was unprepared for a bad turn of events in trade a good trader. Trade won't always be good and if a trader can't handle that fact,they may as well quit business. Cheers

[Guest OILFXPRO]

Studies have been done that show the neural networks in a stressed out monkey have fewer branches than in a less stressed monkey. So stress can make you stupid. Oh, and it makes you fat too.

 

What is size of your waist then?:haha: :haha: :haha:

 

deep guilty conscience , is it?

 

use alcohol as an ant-i -depressant , it makes you fatter.:crap:

[JoelDarr 10]

What is size of your waist then?:haha: :haha: :haha:

 

deep guilty conscience , is it?

 

use alcohol as an ant-i -depressant , it makes you fatter.:crap:

 

Every little helps, you know. If booze helps you with trading - take your time