Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

marker

Different Data Feeds from Your Charting Platform Vs. Trading DOM

Recommended Posts

I currently trade off of my Ninja charts & trading DOM that ties into my account at my broker (Mirus). A one-stop shop.

 

I want to move to a different charting software such Ensign, Sierra or Investor-RT.

Here's is my newbee confusion. I am assuming that these charting software will require me to subscribe to a data feed such as IQFeed. But these charting software do not have a trading DOM to execute trades into your account at the broker. So I am assuming, I will be using my brokers trading DOM to execute trades.

 

To me, it doesnt make sense to execute trades based on a chart that has a different data feed from the brokers trading DOM. Is there something I am missing? wont there be a difference/slippage? or the difference is so minor, its no big deal? I am thinking it is a big deal, cause 1 tick difference could mean a full stop out or not....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I currently trade off of my Ninja charts & trading DOM that ties into my account at my broker (Mirus). A one-stop shop.

 

I want to move to a different charting software such Ensign, Sierra or Investor-RT.

Here's is my newbee confusion. I am assuming that these charting software will require me to subscribe to a data feed such as IQFeed. But these charting software do not have a trading DOM to execute trades into your account at the broker. So I am assuming, I will be using my brokers trading DOM to execute trades.

 

To me, it doesnt make sense to execute trades based on a chart that has a different data feed from the brokers trading DOM. Is there something I am missing? wont there be a difference/slippage? or the difference is so minor, its no big deal? I am thinking it is a big deal, cause 1 tick difference could mean a full stop out or not....

 

Your trades are executed on the exchange and not on your broker's servers/DOM. Your trades will be executed based on the current price on the exchange and not on what your broker's datafeed, or any other datafeed for that matter shows you. The more accurate your feed is, the closer it will match what is happening on the exchange.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As sevensa notes, you are better off keeping your data seperate from an entity that can profit from delays and bad data...as all brokers who can take positions opposite yours can do.

 

Use data from proven data suppliers who are in no way, shape or form affiliated with banks or brokerages. They have a vested interest in maintaining the quality of data.

 

Routing your trade where any broker can see it = bad juju. Banks and brokers who trade at 'less than arms length' have a vested interest in skewing data and using all positioning information of their clients to their benefit.

 

Where there's chum in the water...there will always be sharks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Routing your trade where any broker can see it = bad juju.

 

So you think a trade can be placed at an exchange (assuming retail level) without first passing through infrastructure of a broker???

 

Sounds interesting, please explain how you think that could be accomplished.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
...

Routing your trade where any broker can see it = bad juju. ...

 

there are very little privacy on the internet.

you might be surprised,

but your charting software vendor knows more about your account than you realized.

 

Ninja was caught red handed a few years ago when their software was sending private information back to their server.

 

One of MultiCharts' users found his eSignal password in MC's log. Of course MC quickly promised not to do it again in the future.

 

You go figure what software can extract from your computer...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm quite well aware of the 'two way mirror' that is both the internet and windows...not to mention Java aps. Think of all the money to be made from snooping on individuals settings on charts (especially if that individual is effective in the markets).

 

I found in doing a trace of the hops to TOS that one went to a group of psych. wonks closely affiliated to Euro bank establishments...and its very likely that they are employed as sockpuppets on their 'free chats' on the platform. Another time I was discussing a tech issue and another tech mistakenly enterred the chat. His 'handle'? Solomon Bros Tech.

 

Where there are large pools of money, there are always thieves....and most of them tie back to Rome.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry for that, I see what you mean.

 

I meant from the standpoint of using charting and data that they provide or have access to, and where they are able to trade against you.

 

The sole benefit of using TOS as a broker prior to their being purchased by a bank, was that they had no trading arm. One notes how long that lasted.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Date: 21st February 2025.   European PMI Disappoint, Weighing on Euro Before German Elections   The Euro is the first currency to witness the volatility on this month’s PMI reports. The French, German and British PMI data have resulted in the Euro being the worst-performing currency of the European Session so far. However, will the Euro continue to decline throughout the day? European Purchasing Managers’ Indexes The French Purchasing Managers Index was the first European index to be made public. The release resulted in the Euro instantly declining 0.24%. The main concern from the French data was the Services PMI which fell from 48.2 to 44.5. Previously the market was expecting the data to remain more or less unchanged. The weak data triggered the decline which came to a halt after Germany’s PMI was released.     The German Manufacturing PMI read 0.5 points higher than previous expectations and the Services PMI was 0.2 points lower. The data from Germany was a relief for Euro investors and the price rose 0.12% higher. However, traders should note that the price of the EURUSD continues to remain 0.20% lower than yesterday’s close. The price of the EURUSD will now depend on the PMI data from the US. The value of the US Dollar will depend on its PMI release this afternoon and the Consumer Sentiment Index. Analysts expect both the US Services and Manufacturing PMI data to remain above the 50.00 level in the expansion zone. German Elections 2 Days Away Germany is set to hold a general election this Sunday, February 23rd, following the collapse of the coalition of social democrats, liberals, and greens. Given the country's highly proportional electoral system, German polls provide a strong indication of potential government formations post-election. The main concern for Germany is the AFD party who are Far-Right Nationalists. Currently, ahead in the polls are CDU (centre-right), and AFD (far right), followed by the SPD (centre-left). Traders should note that the results of the elections are likely to trigger strong volatility on Monday, but also influence volatility today. Economists may become further concerned if the far-right gains power for the first time due to uncertainty. If the government, similar to France, is unable to form a coalition, this would also be a concern for the Eurozone. Furthermore, the Euro this week is also under pressure from comments from members of the European Central Bank. ECB Governing Council member Fabio Panetta said to journalists that officials need not slow interest rate cuts, as January's 2.5% inflation is still expected to reach the 2.0% target this year. He also advised the European economy is weaker than previously expected. EURUSD - Technical Analysis and Indicators The EURUSD is trading above the 75-bar Exponential Moving Average and 100-bar Simple Moving Average on the 2-hour chart. However, the price is moving away from the key resistance level at 1.05058 indicating the price is losing momentum. The short-term volatility is indicating the price is retracing downwards. On the 5-minute timeframe, the price is trading below the 200-bar SMA and is also forming clear lower lows and highs. Simultaneously, the US Dollar Index is trading above the 200-bar SMA on the 5-minute chart confirming no current conflicts. Currently, the US Dollar is the best-performing currency of the day attempting to regain losses from the past 2 weeks. Watch today’s Live Analysis Session for more signals as they develop!   Key Takeaway Points: Weak French Services PMI triggered an initial Euro decline, but German PMI provide a slight relief. However, EURUSD remains lower than yesterday’s close. The Euro’s direction now depends on the US PMI reports, with analysts expecting US data to stay in expansion territory. Sunday's German election could drive volatility, especially if the far-right AFD gains power or if coalition formation proves difficult. ECB official Fabio Panetta suggested no need to slow rate cuts, citing weaker-than-expected economic performance and expected inflation decline. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Michalis Efthymiou HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • BE Bloom Energy stock, watch for a range breakout, target 34 area at https://stockconsultant.com/?BE
    • APLD Applied Digital stock. nice rally, watch for a top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?APLD
    • UAL United Airlines stock, watch for a narrow range breakout, target 122 area at https://stockconsultant.com/?UAL
    • WBD Warner Bros Discovery stock, watch for a range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?WBD
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.