Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

illumintai

Amibroker - Simple Inside Bar Trading System Question

Recommended Posts

Hello,

 

I am trying to develop a simple strategy with the view of further modifying the code as I move forward. But it is becoming very frustrating learning this Amibroker programming.

 

Firstly, I would like to seek some advice on how I can learn this with some structure ? I know some kind of a library exists, but I am struggling.

 

At least I am hoping to learn by asking questions around.

 

Basically the strategy is simple.

 

If a bullish inside bar is formed, I want to go long on the break of that bar high with a stoploss at the low of the bullish inside bar. Profit target is the same distance as the stoploss distance from the entry point.

 

I don't have problem using codes such as..

 

cond1 = ref(h,-1) > h;

cond2 = ref(l,-1) < l;

cond3 = c-o>0;

// which i am guessing defines a bullish inside bar.

 

I know the buy signal could be

 

buy = cond1 and cond2 and cond3;

 

but I am not entirely sure from here how I can define - buy at the break of high in the next bar.

 

And also, I understand I have to use a variation of ApplyStop function to define the stoploss and profit target.

 

PLEASE ADVISE.

 

If you can spare some more time, I would also be interested to know how I can define setting to trade only x% of capital. I managed to import my own fx data but have no idea setting up the tick value, etc ? So it seems all my back testing is done by entering 100% of capital each time :horror;

 

Thank you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know AFL but it seems like looking a bar further back for the signal and triggering on the current bar would do the trick.

 

cond1 = ref(h,-2) > h;

cond2 = ref(l,-2) < l;

cond3 = ref(c,-1)-ref(o,-1)>0;

 

signal = cond1 and cond2 and cond3

 

if signal then..............................................//Dont know the syntax for AFL

if c > ref (h-1) then buy.........................//buy on this bar

 

Not sure about the syntax but that logic should do it. assuming you can buy on the current bar. There are alternative ways of doing it that might be more appropriate. It is a question of logic rather than syntax of AFL. As Tams would be the first to say try to set out the logical steps and then try to code it. If you want to check for the break out on the next bar you will need to set a flag and make note of bar numbers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks BlowFish,

 

I see what you mean.

 

Then, what happens if the current bar is indeed higher than the high of the inside bar thereby triggering the trade, but the low of the current bar is lower than the inside bar triggering the stoploss?

 

 

Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

illuminati,

AmiBroker has a function called Inside() which contains your cond1 and cond2. But lets stick to the conditions you wrote.

 

In AFL, Buy is an array. If that array contains TRUE value for a particular element (i.e. for a particular bar), then you buy in that bar.

 

So if you write

buy = cond1 and cond2 and cond3,

it is wrong, because you would buy within the inside bar itself, not in the next bar.

The correct buy condition would be

 

Buy = Ref( cond1 AND cond2 AND cond3, -1 );

 

so you would buy on a bar which follows after the inside bar. Furthermore, you need to consider that the bullish inside bar -- that is an inside bar with close > open, if I understand your definition correctly -- doesn't need to get broken in the upward direction. And you don't want to buy in such a case. To incorporate this, you need to write

 

Buy = Ref( cond1 AND cond2 AND cond3, -1 ) AND H > Ref( H, -1 );

 

which says:"I want to buy if the previous bar is a bullish inside bar and if the current bar makes high which is higher than the high of the previous bar (i.e. if the current bar breaks the high of the previous bar)."

 

To get rid of your conditions and to write everything in one line, you can use

 

Buy = Ref( Inside() AND C > O, -1 ) AND H > Ref( H, -1 );

 

Now it is important to realize that Buy array contains only the information about which conditions a bar must meet so you buy on that bar. It tells nothing about the price you buy for.

The price you buy for can be set somewhere in settings within the Automatic Analisis window (I would need to have a look at where exactly), or you can do it directly in the code. If you set the buy price in the code, it overrides the settings in the AA window.

 

In the code, you must use BuyPrice array to hold buy prices for every bar. So if you want to use stop limit with stop price 1 tick higher than the high of the previous bar and limit price 2 ticks higher than the high of the previous bar, you will write

 

tick = 0.25; // for example

BuyPrice = Ref( H, -1 ) + 2 * tick;

 

which sets you buy price always two ticks above the previous High.

(A general note: If the price defined in BuyPrice array doesn't lie in the bar which you buy at, AmiBroker uses the nearest price which does in that bar.)

 

You can define the tick value directly in the code, like I did now, or you can define it for every symbol independently. To do so you must enter it in Tick Size field in View --> Symbol Information.

Then you can refer to it in the code if you use TickSize keyword. Then you would write

 

BuyPrice = Ref( H, -1 ) + 2 * TickSize;

 

So, to sum it up so far, you need the following two lines to define your entry:

 

Buy = Ref( Inside() AND C > O, -1 ) AND H > Ref( H, -1 );

BuyPrice = Ref( H, -1 ) + 2 * TickSize;

 

assuming you defined tick size in Symbol Information window.

 

_________________________________________

 

Re position sizing, look up SetPositionSize function in AmiBroker help. You can set size as fixed $ amount, fixed share (contract) amount, % of your equity, and perhaps even as something else, i can't remember exactly.

______________________________________

 

As for ApplyStop function, I would need to study in myself first. I don't use automatic strategies so I am no expert in using related functions.

Or you can define your exits without ApplyStop. Just using Sell and SellPrice arrays. But it will get certainly complicated, because you will need to separate exiting at target(s), initial stop, trailing stop, etc. and define SellPrice appropriatelly to the exit used. You will probably use a lot of conditions (study IIF function). But the principle remains the same as for the buy signal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Thanks BlowFish,

 

I see what you mean.

 

Then, what happens if the current bar is indeed higher than the high of the inside bar thereby triggering the trade, but the low of the current bar is lower than the inside bar triggering the stoploss?

 

 

Thanks.

That's tricky because you don't know what happened first - the break of the low or the break of the high. But it all depends on how you define your system. The conditions I wrote in the previous post don't consider an outside bar folowing the inside bar as a special case. So every time the high of the inside bar is broken the trade is triggered.

You can write a condition for a stop in the same manner, so every outside bar after inside bar would mean entry and a full stop loss.

 

Generally, the more special cases you want to incorporate, the more complicated code you wind up with.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, I hesitated whether I should write this, but one of the first things I did when i decided to pursuit the trading career was trying to program an Inside Bar system.

I can even say that the first half a year or even a year I generally mistook trading for programing. Now I wish I had invested that time better.

IMHO, programing can serve to automate certain parts of your system or even the whole system, but only after you understand what you are doing and why. That is after you spend countless hours watching the market move and understand why and how it moves.

Staring out programing this and that, tweaking and optimizing is a wasted time, IMHO.

 

Anyway, I don't know in what phase you are as a trader and I speak only from my personal experience, so I don't claim to posses the one and only truth. But perhaps you can take it as food for thought.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Head2k,

 

Obviously my view of my own progress is always subjective and biased, so not to be relied upon. But I feel I have studied and traded inside, outside and pin bars with discretion reasonably well and have developed a "feel" for it.

 

I have noticed certain conditions in which these price action work with particular precision and the goal with amibroker is to test my theories. ..thats all...

 

Again, thanks mate.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • CVNA Carvana stock, nice top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?CVNA
    • GDRX GoodRx stock, good day, watch for a bottom range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?GDRX
    • Date: 14th February 2025.   Can The NASDAQ Maintain Momentum at Key Resistance Level?     The price of the NASDAQ throughout the week rose more than 3.00% to bring the price back up to the instrument’s resistance level. However, while taking into consideration higher inflation, tariffs and the resistance level, could the index maintain momentum?   US Inflation Rises For a 4th Consecutive Month The US Consumer Price Index, or inflation, rose for a 4th consecutive month taking the rate even further away from the Federal Reserve’s target. Analysts were expecting the US inflation rate to remain unchanged at 2.9%. However, consumer inflation rose to 3.00%, the highest since July 2024, while Producer inflation rose to 3.5%. Higher inflation traditionally triggers lower sentiment towards the stock market as investors' risk appetite falls and they prefer the US Dollar. However, on this occasion bullish volatility rose. For this reason, some traders may be considering if the price is overbought in the short term.   Addressing these statistics, US Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell acknowledged that the Fed has yet to achieve its goal of curbing inflation, adding further hawkish signals regarding the monetary policy. Other members of the FOMC also share this view. Today, Raphael Bostic, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, stated that the Fed is unlikely to implement interest rate cuts in the near future. This is due to ongoing economic uncertainty following the introduction of trade tariffs on imported goods and other policies from the Republican-led White House.   Most of the Federal Open Market Committee emphasizes additional time is needed to fully assess the situation. According to the Chicago Exchange FedWatch Tool, interest rate cuts may not start until September 2025.   What’s Driving The NASDAQ Higher? Earnings data this week has continued to support the NASDAQ. Early this morning Airbnb made public their quarterly earnings report whereby they beat both earnings per share and revenue expectations. The Earnings Per Share read 25% higher than expectations and Revenue was more than 2% higher. As a result, the stock rose more than 14%. Another company this week that made public positive earnings data is Cisco which rose by more than 2% on Thursday. Another positive factor continues to be the positive employment data. Even though the positive employment data can push back interest rate cuts, the stability in the short term continues to serve the interests of higher consumer demand. The US Unemployment Rate fell to 4.00% the lowest in 8 months. Lastly, investors are also increasing their exposure to the index due to sellers not being able to maintain control or momentum. Some economists also increase their confidence in economic growth if Trump can obtain a positive outcome from the Ukraine-Russia negotiations.   However, during Friday’s pre-US session trading, 80% of the most influential stocks are witnessing a decline. The NASDAQ itself is trading more or less unchanged. Therefore, the question again arises as to whether the NASDAQ can maintain momentum above this area.   NASDAQ - News and Technical analysis In terms of technical analysis, the NASDAQ is largely witnessing mainly bullish indications on the 2-hour chart. However, the main concern for traders is the resistance level at $21,960. On the 5-minute timeframe, the price is mainly experiencing bearish signals as the price moves below the 200-period simple moving average.   The VIX, which is largely used as a risk indicator, is currently trading 0.75% higher which indicates a lower risk appetite. In addition to this, bond yields trade 6 points higher. If both the VIX and Bond yields rise further, further pressure may be witnessed for index traders.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Michalis Efthymiou HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • LUNR Intuitive Machines stock watch, attempting to move higher off 18.64 support, target 26 area at https://stockconsultant.com/?LUNR
    • CNXC Concentrix stock watch, pullback to 47.16 triple support area with bullish indicators at https://stockconsultant.com/?CNXC
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.