Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

Recommended Posts

Bingo... was sooooo close to going the E46 route but the subframe issues scared me not to mention it seemed like there were TONS of normal maintenance things you had to do... RTAB bushings, shims, etc.

 

I second the 996 vote. Only thing you have to watch out for is RMS leaks, which are easy to spot ahead of purchase and if the clutch has been replaced most likely it won't be an issue anyway. Other than that the entire car is practically bomb proof.

 

Seems like the best bang for the buck. Personally I just can't get over the front bumpers on the 99-01 C2/C4's... I'd have to up the ante to a C4S or Turbo... Normal mileage turbos can be had for under 40k.... Thats a 100-120k discount off sticker folks... and it is a true supercar. Don't know of much that can touch its performance potential out of the box for less money.

 

996 gt3RS are only circa £50k that is a lot of bang for your buck.

 

All 996 are cheep due to the ugly light/front bumper combo.

 

Edit, to add also Porsche is no longer a rare super-car marque and now a mainstream to high end mass producer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just ran across this black on black Cayenne S on AutoTrader for <20k! And that's a dealer's list price...you could possibly get it for thousands less!

 

I can't understand why people would buy something like a brand new RAV4 or something like that for around the same price (or more!)...this Cayenne is soo much cooler! :)

 

EDIT: But I guess that's just me...I can understand the Cayenne is less "practical," is used so has many more miles on it, etc.

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=20265&d=1269358510

Untitled.jpg.6fee824db52934fe06c4f8cab216ae56.jpg

Edited by Cory2679
"edit"

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I personally am usually disgusted by these Italian monstrosities, and the extreme exclusivity in particular of the Enzo.

 

I also think this car is hideous. But some serious thought went into its development. Nice commentary on the characteristics of the car in this vid.

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7jsauspMmU]YouTube - Enzo car review - Top Gear - BBC[/ame]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I personally am usually disgusted by these Italian monstrosities, and the extreme exclusivity in particular of the Enzo.

 

I also think this car is hideous. But some serious thought went into its development. Nice commentary on the characteristics of the car in this vid.

 

 

Forrestang,

 

I must say I generally agree with you, I myself lean more towards good ol American muscle like the ZR1, or even better the Mustang GT500. Have you seen the changes Ford has in store for the 2011 model?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice thread.

The wife got an Audi TT a little over a year ago. I have been really impressed. No problems other than I can ride in it but not comfortably it grips my kidneys.

I haven't looked for some time. Is there an American made sports car at all now - I mean from an American company? I know some BMWs and others are made here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Speaking of cars... I just got stuck in Boulder for 4 hours in the snow because my car is RWD.

 

I think it's time to move onto something AWD... Not sure what I like though that is affordable lol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Speaking of cars... I just got stuck in Boulder for 4 hours in the snow because my car is RWD.

 

I think it's time to move onto something AWD... Not sure what I like though that is affordable lol

 

I like the LS 460 L AWD as a daily driver in the snow. I especially like the reclining back seats. Thats a pretty high end luxury feature you won't find in to many other cars. Get one a few years old, probably cost you around $45,000 if you have someone good to buy from.

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=20287&stc=1&d=1269439898

attachment.php?attachmentid=20291&stc=1&d=1269440233

attachment.php?attachmentid=20288&stc=1&d=1269439898

attachment.php?attachmentid=20290&stc=1&d=1269439898

5aa70fef4e685_3-24-201001.png.a1f5f65c1171787a793b7aeeab7faee3.png

5aa70fef56507_3-24-201003.png.6081f01d3d025491d86fa512790588ed.png

5aa70fef5e3f9_3-24-201004.png.84845a7f8baaabcf729486851914ce2f.png

5aa70fef656cc_3-24-201005.png.919dee4399f62b6dcc76d16fbdb80afd.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Forrestang,

 

I must say I generally agree with you, I myself lean more towards good ol American muscle like the ZR1, or even better the Mustang GT500. Have you seen the changes Ford has in store for the 2011 model?

 

Come on guys, are you really comparing American muscle cars to pieces of art like Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini etc.? :rofl:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Come on guys, are you really comparing American muscle cars to pieces of art like Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini etc.? :rofl:

 

"To each his own"

 

It is very interesting how different everyone's opinion can be about cars. There were some people that decided to buy Pontiac Aztec. Everyone likes what they like.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok heres a Q for you guys, i know its a slight diversion of the thread but.....

 

What cars are going to appreciate going forwards and are desirable, I should say excluding already stupid priced exotics such as Ferrari 250 GTO and so on.

 

I have a few ideas of my own but interested as to others thoughts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think thats a really hard one... I think that the 670-SV will be because its the last of the Murci's and its the most hard core version yet.

 

Honestly I don't see the Scud's or 16M's appreciating that much...

 

I think the Carrera GT is a steal right now (prices have been dropping during the '07 collapse and are starting to bounce up again). I think its an iconic car and its limited production and current prices all lean towards good appreciation.

 

Maybe the Enzo... the Bugatti and Reventon's are out as far as i'm concerned because I think the pricing is ludicrous as is - let alone thinking they will appreciate that much beyond where they are right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I think thats a really hard one... I think that the 670-SV will be because its the last of the Murci's and its the most hard core version yet.

 

Honestly I don't see the Scud's or 16M's appreciating that much...

 

I think the Carrera GT is a steal right now (prices have been dropping during the '07 collapse and are starting to bounce up again). I think its an iconic car and its limited production and current prices all lean towards good appreciation.

 

Maybe the Enzo... the Bugatti and Reventon's are out as far as i'm concerned because I think the pricing is ludicrous as is - let alone thinking they will appreciate that much beyond where they are right now.

 

Agreed on the SV long term although shorter term dip imo. Also agree on the Carrera GT and Enzo for sure.

 

The Vyrons, Reventon, One 77, Pagini and Konig are all just mental and price is not even worth talking about.

 

My thoughts were Ferrari 550, 575, 355, 456, Porker 993 esp turbo / RS spec.

 

I guess what im thinking of is future classics, and sports cars you can use and lose without paying for the pleasure in hefty depreciation.:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Two words - Acura NSX.

 

You are probably right about that.

 

The best way to make money with cars is to have a license to buy at auctions. I have a friend who does this and makes a healthy living. He bought 2008 S550 with very low mileage for around $40k. I don't remember the last time he owned a car he couldn't immediately sell for a decent profit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great point re the NSX, now that is a brilliant machine!

 

No license needed this side of the pond for auctions but I would never buy there, it is a dodgy game unless you really know what your doing as there are so many dogs sold esp the better cars, unless its something like COYs when they are so rare and exotic they go for millions!

 

I'm not fussed about making money on cars if I was I would have been a motor dealer, just want to enjoy quality motors for free! :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Come on guys, are you really comparing American muscle cars to pieces of art like Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini etc.? :rofl:

 

That would be a silly comparison. You really have to look at the cars individually as too many are entities in their own rights. Engineering that went into it, cost, performance, styling, exclusivity etc..... That's why it's sometimes silly to say car X is better than car Z.

 

Casual outsiders that watch James Bond films make such comparisons.... not people that understand or appreciate how all these variables can fit together.

 

Most cars have "some" value. The ZR1 for examples absolutely the best bang for buck super car in terms of sheer performance( and many tests have that car absolutely smoking other Lamborghinis, Porsches and other expensive cars in straight lines and around corners), but is lacking in many departments(build quality, interior, refinement etc) to the more expensive counterparts. BUt if you want a grocery getter that is affordable and can be easily modified to be a street driven low 11 second car, get an evo. If engineering and exclusivity is your thing, the ENZO is just about unbeatable. The spectrum is wide and vast.

 

For example I think the Enzo is hideous, but how can you not appreciate the engineering that went into that machine, I might call it a piece of art, albeit an ugly one, but whatever.

 

Each bringing something different. Usually too many variables to make certain comparisons.

Edited by forrestang

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^^^ There is a shop that does tuning for the new CTS-V and their shop car is pushing around 750hp IIRC - The thing launched and accelerated so hard at the drag strip it triggered the OnStar crash detection due to the g-force shock of acceleration.... Must be crazy fast!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
^^^ There is a shop that does tuning for the new CTS-V and their shop car is pushing around 750hp IIRC - The thing launched and accelerated so hard at the drag strip it triggered the OnStar crash detection due to the g-force shock of acceleration.... Must be crazy fast!

 

LOL :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Date: 8th April 2025.   Markets Rebound Cautiously as US-China Tariff Tensions Deepen     Global markets staged a tentative recovery on Tuesday following a wave of volatility sparked by escalating trade tensions between the United States and China. The Asia-Pacific region showed signs of stability after a chaotic start to the week—though some pockets remained under pressure. Taiwan’s Taiex dropped 4.4%, dragged lower by losses in tech heavyweight TSMC. The world’s largest chipmaker fell another 4% on Tuesday and has now slumped 13.5% since April 2, when US President Donald Trump first unveiled what he called ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs.   However, broader sentiment across the region turned more positive, with several markets rebounding sharply after Monday’s dramatic sell-offs. Japan’s Nikkei 225 surged over 6% in early trading, rebounding from an 18-month low. South Korea’s Kospi rose marginally, and Australia’s ASX 200 gained 1.9%, driven by strength in mining stocks. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng rose 1.6%, though still far from recovering from Monday’s 13.2% crash—its worst day since the 1997 Asian financial crisis. China’s Shanghai Composite added 0.9%.   In Europe, DAX and FTSE 100 are up more than 1% in opening trade. EU Commission President von der Leyen repeated yesterday that the EU had offered reciprocal zero tariffs on manufactured goods previously and continues to stand by that offer. Others are also trying again to talk to Trump to get some sort of agreement that limits the impact.   Much of the rally appeared to be driven by dip-buying, as well as hopes that the intensifying trade war could still be defused through negotiations.   China Strikes Back: ‘We Will Fight to the End’   Tensions reached a boiling point after Trump threatened to impose an additional 50% tariff on all Chinese imports unless Beijing rolled back its retaliatory measures by April 8. ‘If China does not withdraw its 34% increase above their already long-term trading abuses by tomorrow... the United States will impose additional tariffs on China of 50%,’ Trump declared on social media.   If implemented, the new tariffs would bring total US duties on Chinese goods to a staggering 124%, factoring in the existing 20%, the 34% recently announced, and the proposed 50%.   In response, China’s Ministry of Commerce issued a stern warning, stating: ‘The US threat to escalate tariffs is a mistake on top of a mistake... If the US insists on its own way, China will fight to the end.’ The ministry also called for equal and respectful dialogue, though signs of compromise on either side remain scarce.   Beijing acted quickly to contain a market fallout. State funds intervened to support equities, and the People’s Bank of China set the yuan fixing at its weakest level since September 2023 to boost export competitiveness. Additionally, five-year interest rate swaps in China fell to their lowest levels since 2020, indicating potential for further monetary easing.   Trump Talks Tough on EU Too   Trump’s hardline approach extended beyond China. Speaking at a press conference, he rejected the European Union’s offer to eliminate tariffs on cars and industrial goods, accusing the bloc of ‘being very bad to us.’ He insisted that Europe would need to source its energy from the US, claiming the US could ‘knock off $350 billion in one week.’   The EU, meanwhile, backed away from a proposed 50% retaliatory tariff on American whiskey, opting instead for 25% duties on selected US goods in response to Trump’s steel and aluminium tariffs.     Volatile Wall Street Adds to the Drama   Wall Street experienced wild swings on Monday as investors processed the rapidly evolving trade conflict. The S&P 500 briefly fell 4.7% before rebounding 3.4%, nearly erasing its losses in what could have been its biggest one-day jump in years—if it had held. The Dow Jones Industrial Average sank by as much as 1,700 points early in the day but later climbed nearly 900 points before closing 349 points lower, down 0.9%. The Nasdaq ended up 0.1%.   The brief rally was fueled by a false rumour that Trump was considering a 90-day pause on tariffs—rumours that the White House quickly labelled ‘fake news.’ The market's sharp reaction underscored how desperate investors are for any sign that tensions might ease.   Oil Markets in Focus: Goldman Sachs Revises Forecasts   Crude prices also reflected the uncertainty, with US crude briefly dipping below $60 per barrel for the first time since 2021. As of early Tuesday, Brent crude was trading at $64.72, while WTI hovered around $61.26.   Goldman Sachs, in a note dated April 7, lowered its average price forecasts for Brent and WTI through 2025 and 2026, citing mounting recession risks and the potential for higher-than-expected supply from OPEC+.       Under a base-case scenario where the US avoids a recession and tariffs are reduced significantly before the April 9 implementation date, Goldman sees Brent at $62 per barrel and WTI at $58 by December 2025. These figures fall further to $55 and $51, respectively, by the end of 2026. This outlook also assumes moderate output increases from eight OPEC+ countries, with incremental boosts of 130,000–140,000 barrels per day in June and July.   However, should the US slip into a typical recession and OPEC production aligns with the bank’s baseline assumptions, Brent could retreat to $58 by the end of this year and to $50 by December 2026.   In a more bearish scenario involving a global GDP slowdown and no change to OPEC+ output levels, Brent prices might fall to $54 by year-end and $45 by late 2026. The most extreme projection—based on a simultaneous economic downturn and a full reversal of OPEC+ production cuts—would see Brent plunge to below $40 per barrel by the end of 2026.   Goldman noted that oil prices could outperform forecasts significantly if there was a dramatic shift in tariff policy and a surprise in global demand recovery.   Cautious Optimism, But Warnings Persist   With both Washington and Beijing showing no signs of backing down, markets are likely to remain volatile in the days ahead. Investors now turn their attention to upcoming trade meetings and policy decisions, hoping for clarity in what has become one of the most unpredictable trading environments in recent years.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report. Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • CVNA Carvana stock watch, rebound to 166.56 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?CVNA
    • CVNA Carvana stock watch, rebound to 166.56 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?CVNA
    • CVNA Carvana stock watch, rebound to 166.56 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?CVNA
    • CVNA Carvana stock watch, rebound to 166.56 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?CVNA
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.