Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

Soultrader

To Programmers and Those Seeking Help

Recommended Posts

Hi all,

 

I am looking for some feedback from the TL programmers and those who are seeking programming help to develop your strategies, indicators, trade systems, etc...

 

TL is a free site but requests such as programming can often be hard as this is time consuming for the programmer. As a result, I am contemplating whether to offer a commercial service market place in which those seeking programming help can hire programmers directly at a specified fee. This could be in a format where you would submit a request and then programmers would bid on that project. This does not necessarily have to be restricted to programming. It could be merely seeking direct mentorship or closer help from fellow members as well.

 

Any thoughts? Thank you!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a good idea James, however, I think that it could lead to more problems than it solves. What's to stop a bunch of scammers from advertising their services here (as they already try to do)? If someone spends enough time here, they'll be able to tell who the programmers are, and they can just inquire directly via PM. I am still open to the idea though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks diablo,

 

Well the beauty of it is that those looking for help can easily identify the provider through the forums. Has he been active? Is he trustworthy? etc...

 

Obviously more long time posters will have credibility over first timers. Also wouldnt escrow services solve alot of the headaches?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like the idea. As a long-time interested party in the "open source" world, I have seen this kind of thing work well in the past. Though I doubt the "programmers" would significantly boost their income in this way. If you ensured that any code written this way was 1) paid for ("sponsored" may be a better word) by the requester or group of requesters but 2) publicly available thereafter then you are following a well trodden path - one that the developers of "Linux" etc have followed for years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Internet is the medium...

 

we know for many years that it is replacing the newspaper, radio, fax, telex, telephone, courier, the dictionary, the library, the encyclopedia...

 

today, even email is at risk ! People are transitioning to FaceBook and Twitter !

 

change we must... we must change

 

 

James: I applaud you of new ideas... a constant stream of new ideas.

 

I would say... whatever idea it is, go for it.

This is where good people meet,

This is where good people connect,

This is where thoughts are exchanged and progress made.

 

TL can be the enabler

You can make this the medium where people CAN meet and connect, and prosper.

 

Go for it !

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

James,

 

How about a free and open market place where anybody seeking to buy, sell or trade any product or service that is market related can post.

 

Products and services could prosper or fail based on replies and reviews.

 

Members would quickly learn to avoid super spammers, we could all learn about new products and services plus reviews by our learned members would be excellent due diligence for us all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
NinjaTrader offers pro programmers on their forum already, so it would be redundant for NT's C# language at the least.

 

Why would that be redundant? Around the corner where I live we have a Kroger grocery store as well as a Tom Thumb grocery store. Would you say one is redundant because they both offer the same goods?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why would that be redundant? Around the corner where I live we have a Kroger grocery store as well as a Tom Thumb grocery store. Would you say one is redundant because they both offer the same goods?
Do you have pro programmers for NT around the corner? If not where would you go if you needed one? All I'm saying is it may not be worth the bother if someone seeking answers for C# goes to the NT forum anyway. Edited by Gord

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Do you have pro programmers for NT around the corner? If not where would you go if you needed one? All I'm saying is it may not be worth the bother if someone seeking answers for C# goes to the NT forum anyway.

 

You see no benefit for programmers to have multiple areas and marketing outlets available to offer their services?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You see no benefit for programmers to have multiple areas and marketing outlets available to offer their services?
Oh I am sure the programmers would be more than happy to advertise their services here at TL as well. I am just saying it may not be worth the extra work for the forum operators here seeing as anyone doing C# programming for NT would already be familiar with NT's forum and their pro list. But that's TL's call. Just thought I'd throw that in to consider.

 

As an alternative, it just might be easier and more practical to offer a link to NT's pro page...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is an excellent idea Soultrader.

 

I use eSignal and they have a panel of dedicated programmers both in-house and independent and they do excellent stuff. But one notices that there are many gaps and unfilled requests. This happens primarily because the established panel of programmers are reluctant to take on tiny projects and quite inflexible on their rates

 

Another model that is very interesting is the eLance.

 

The way I see it there could be a) individual requests b) common requirements for which the costs could be shared.

 

Jose

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
That is an excellent idea Soultrader.

 

I use eSignal and they have a panel of dedicated programmers both in-house and independent and they do excellent stuff. But one notices that there are many gaps and unfilled requests. This happens primarily because the established panel of programmers are reluctant to take on tiny projects and quite inflexible on their rates

 

Another model that is very interesting is the eLance.

 

The way I see it there could be a) individual requests b) common requirements for which the costs could be shared.

 

Jose

 

Hi Jose,

 

Thank you very much for your feedback! I am aware of eLance but wanted to offer an arena specialized in trading related programming. I figured with the community base we have on TL, this model may work. Also note that we have a number of very talented programmers on board with us. One thing all members should know is that if we decide to offer this function, it would be commercial in order to support the ongoing costs of the system, support, and maintenance.

 

Still doing some research on my end but should have some answers shortly. Thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • IMHO, the best feature of the Double Seven entry strategy is that buys and does not sell in equity-based markets. Large scale selling short in the primary stock markets requires a financed loan of shares from a broker, so it's less common than buying. Therefore, selling in a stock-tracking market generally isn't profitable--even where derivative instruments provide cheaper access to selling.
    • Another chart type... Footprint. 
    • I would forget about tinkering with lot sizes in the short-term. I only increase my lot size when it's justified by my growing capital (closed profit). Adjusting lot size on the fly would imply that I somehow know the specific probability of each individual trade succeeding--which I don't. So, I focus on the overall statistical performance of my strategy over every 6 months. This doesn't require anything clever. As an example, choose a chart structure (15 minute, 1 hour, Renko, range bar, etc.) where price swings are identifiable to your eye. Load a MACD oscillator onto the chart. Note that there are two MACD's floating around online. The "old" MACD uses a weighted EMA in its calculations while the "new" MACD uses a regular MACD in its calculations. If you're using the old one, focus on the main line crossing the signal line and ignore the zero level. If you're using the new one, focus on the main line crossing the zero level and ignore the signal line. These are your entries. Your dynamic exit target is the opposite crossover of whichever MACD lines you're using. Now for the most challenging part... stopouts. You need to determine the number of pips/points/ticks at which price traveled against your entry and did not return in favor of your entry for all trades. These stopout statistics can be collected with pen and paper, which I have arduously done in the past. This is much easier if you can code, backtest, and auto-optimize the stop level. The idea is that your dynamic takeprofit is theoretically infinite, and your stop is fixed at a level that is statistically favorable to you. Although this isn't really "money managment," it certainly manages your money.  
    • PRM Perimeter Solutions stock top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?PRM
    • PNR Pentair stock narrow range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?PNR
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.