Sick of RUDE Replys.

[ILoveSax 10]

Oldies, why do you act so rude towards people who ask simple questions? You treat people like they are ignorant.

 

You too, were ignorant when you started.

 

Courtesy goes a long way to make a Forum a fun, safe, interesting place to spend your time learning.

 

But not with all these ?!? ! RUDE REPLYS!

[Tams 20]

"Ignore" is the most powerful weapon on a public, free, anonymous internet forum

[trader273 10]

Im sick of people making double threads saying the same damn thing. If you think this place is rude or whatever, boy are you in for a rude awakening ( get it?) from the market. Ignore what you find rude and move on, no need to post that you got your feelings hurt.

[DbPhoenix 42]

Oldies, why do you act so rude towards people who ask simple questions? You treat people like they are ignorant.

 

You too, were ignorant when you started.

 

Courtesy goes a long way to make a Forum a fun, safe, interesting place to spend your time learning.

 

But not with all these ?!? ! RUDE REPLYS!

 

Only two of the replys to your question might be considered rude (at least those that were posted by the time you initiated this thread). The rest just didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.

 

So you have a choice: do you want to be told only what you want to hear and go broke, or do you want to become a trader?

[brownsfan019 17]

If you think this forum is harsh, do not (I repeat DO NOT) venture to other forums... in particular elite trader...

[clmacdougall 11]

Just a small bit of advice, nobody here owes anybody any kind of coaching/training/teaching. The men and women who are running some of the top threads here are indeed very giving of their time and expertise. Imagine the advantage we have over the traders from days bygone who had the occasional new book to read or some crazy overpriced good for nothing course to order when looking for help!!!

These "oldies" are good people who are "realists" and that's how they've survived thus far in the markets. Their criticism is some of the best advice you'll ever get, be thankful for it.

[UrmaBlume 10]

If you think this forum is harsh, do not (I repeat DO NOT) venture to other forums... in particular elite trader...

 

What Browns said - In Spades.

 

Another thing about every other forum I have found - The content here is richer and the managment is better.

 

Thanks James.

[thalestrader 14]

I suppose my post is one of those which you consider to be rude. You asked for alternate suggestions.. All I did was provide a suggestion that I though represented a better use of your capital than the one you proposed (and I still think my suggestion is better).

 

Listen to Tams, and do not hesitate to use the ignore feature. Tams placed me on ignore months ago and we have gotten on famously ever since.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Thales

Edited October 13, 2009 by thalestrader
removed sentence that potentially could have been interpreted as being rude

[Kiwi 16]

1. It is extremely bad etiquette to post something in two forums. Rather rude.

 

2. You are a sensitive wee soul aren't you.

 

I saw your original post and thought ... oh my god, here we go again ... but because this is a refined and restrained forum I didn't explain how little you get it. Others attempted to help you, foolishly it seems. They have saved you a lot of money if you don't chase off after your wonderful idea. You might also gain spiritual benefit if you give the money to a charity instead as some posters suggested.

[Kiwi 16]

Hells Bells,

 

I just read the entire thread looking to laugh at the rudeness and discovered that someone actually gave you a method that will work even on markets as unruly as ES and KOSPI.

 

My advice:

 

Sign off. Clear the cookies from your browser. Wait a few days and then open this site in a new browser (Chrome or Firefox) and enlist again. Then read for a number of weeks and look for boring effective ways of trading. You have made so much of a fool of yourself that most people wouldn't want to maintain your current identity.

 

A wise man said that the holy grail of trading is "learning to handle the variance in your returns." You might search for that phrase and spend the next couple of days looking at the free information he gives away and thinking seriously about the strategy proposed in your original thread.

[bathrobe 10]

I spend my time on this forum because it is not rude and the posters here are knowledgable and helpful in my opinion, I hope to add what I can, but I have only come across one confrontational poster on my time here and this person was pretty new to the forum.

 

One reason you think this might be is because most of us who have been trading as a business and turn a profit spent an unbelievable amount of time learning on our own, making mistakes, learning from them and moving on. When someone new just bluntly asks "explain your setup" that is rude in a different way, while it sounds innocent enough, they are basically saying "I am new to trading and lose money, explain to me how you consistently make money because I do not have the time or the desire to become profitable, I want it for free"

 

If this came off as rude it was not my intention, as Brownsfan said, this is nothing compared to other sites.

[ILoveSax 10]

Thank you for all of your replys. I do appreciate all the advice given. Sometimes it is best just to read, but I really wanted some feedback, which I did get, both positive and negative. I did immedately decide to do what was suggested, as it was clear that I had come up with an idea that would not work. LOL As a result of my reading of your suggestions, the truth became obvious.

 

I don't consider all posts rude by any means. Most posters here have the very best intention to help others. That I appreciate.

 

Sometimes, we must reread our thoughts to see how others will hear them. I often, re write something to improve it's meaning, and to make the thought non judgemental.

 

All the best,

[IDR 10]

Sometimes, we must reread our thoughts to see how others will hear them. I often, re write something to improve it's meaning, and to make the thought non judgemental.

 

So you're saying that other should do that too prior to answering your questions?

[clockwork71 10]

My take on this follows: (FWIW)

 

I believe that forums and the internet in general is a microcosm of life, people, and the way they interact in society. This is actually useful information because it leads to understanding human nature. I am one of those people that believes a chart is a reflection of human behavior and/or psychology.

 

If someone gives you a rude answer, there are a couple of possible reasons. One, maybe you just are so stupid you need a verbal beating? Or two - and I believe more likely, it reflects upon their need to feel superior. That need is a reflection of their lack of self-esteem. They are probably losing loads of money in the markets. Also....

 

You have to think that if they cannot control themselves, and feel the need to be like that - wonder how they react when the market is "out to get them"? Just a thought.

 

We all have bad days, but you will find over time their are some people that are worth listening to, and the other's are too worried about impressing you with how big their pee-pee is. I love these jacked-up type A people - they hand me money every week.

 

I let them brag, I just collect.

 

Best of luck in your trading.

 

PS - I am new to this forum, and if that rant was a little off.....sorry. I am sure there's a lesson in their somewhere though.

 

Chris

[Kiwi 16]

Clockwork,

 

An interesting theory but its like master salespeople or master athletes. People apply discipline, control, fairness, impatience (with fools, markets etc) differently in different situations. And recent research on self-control shows that it comes from the front of your brain and (sadly) gets used up and then takes time to replenish.

 

So the master trader applies control and perception to the markets for xx hours. Then he finishes, takes a break, goes to the pub to let it all out, or the internet and rips someone a new one.

 

Worse though, the internet has become a place where people who wouldn't fight in person will fight. Size doesn't matter. Its often used for peacocking not communication. And you can't see that ILoveSax is starting to tear up when you point out how silly his question is so you don't feel sympathy and pull back.

 

The only thing that saves us is the social norms of the board you work on and their ability to expel people who breach them. Expectations and Policing.

 

Too strong and people who are smart traders get bored and leave. Too weak and you get ET (which does have some amazingly knowledgeable traders but is a little rough for ILoveSax). At least, that is my suspicion.

[Tams 20]

we are here because we have got nothing better to do... whether you admit it or not is not important to the rest of the participants

 

what you said, and how people read what you meant, can be entirely disconnected

 

you post, because it makes you feel better

 

you read, because you hope to feel better

 

if you read something, you have a choice of letting the post control your feelings, or you can choose to pass

 

if you have purchased a novel, you "can" feel obligated to read it because you have made a conscious decision to buy it and paid for it

 

in an anonymous internet forum, where the access is free and the wrongs have little repercussions

 

there is no obligation to get upset over what some stranger said...

 

 

 

just my 2c

Edited November 3, 2009 by Tams

[sevensa 10]

My take on this follows: (FWIW)

 

I believe that forums and the internet in general is a microcosm of life, people, and the way they interact in society. This is actually useful information because it leads to understanding human nature. I am one of those people that believes a chart is a reflection of human behavior and/or psychology.

 

If someone gives you a rude answer, there are a couple of possible reasons. One, maybe you just are so stupid you need a verbal beating? Or two - and I believe more likely, it reflects upon their need to feel superior. That need is a reflection of their lack of self-esteem. They are probably losing loads of money in the markets. Also....

 

You have to think that if they cannot control themselves, and feel the need to be like that - wonder how they react when the market is "out to get them"? Just a thought.

 

We all have bad days, but you will find over time their are some people that are worth listening to, and the other's are too worried about impressing you with how big their pee-pee is. I love these jacked-up type A people - they hand me money every week.

 

I let them brag, I just collect.

 

Best of luck in your trading.

 

PS - I am new to this forum, and if that rant was a little off.....sorry. I am sure there's a lesson in their somewhere though.

 

Chris

 

I can't help but to see the irony that you say that people giving rude replies lack self esteem and need to feel superior, but then your whole post is about how your are superior to them with your trading. The pot calling the kettle black? Just a thought...

[Kiwi 16]

Yes. Someone on another (much rougher) forum said:

 

 

Man is a parading animal.

 

 

So true

[Tams 20]

i can't help but to see the irony that you say that people giving rude replies lack self esteem and need to feel superior, but then your whole post is about how your are superior to them with your trading. The pot calling the kettle black? Just a thought...

 

 

..... ..... ..... ..... LoL

 

I was too polite to say that loud

[DugDug 10]

Do forums make everybody act like someone with Asperger's syndrome?

 

People with Asperger syndrome can find it harder to read the signals that most of us take for granted. This means they find it more difficult to communicate and interact with others which can lead to high levels of anxiety and confusion.

[robertm 10]

Do forums make everybody act like someone with Asperger's syndrome?

 

People with Asperger syndrome can find it harder to read the signals that most of us take for granted. This means they find it more difficult to communicate and interact with others which can lead to high levels of anxiety and confusion.

 

Good point. I tend to go for over use of emoticons, as depending on the frame of mind of the reader in that moment it's easy to pick a viewpoint and miss the intended point entirely.

[Jasonn 10]

I agree... TL is great and all, but the community lacks a nurturing attitude towards beginning traders. Also, I am not saying that TL has a bad community per say... look at trade2win and google finance... you will encounter some real jerks there...

Edited December 1, 2009 by Soultrader
spam

[robertm 10]

mmmmmmmm, you certainly are enthusiastic on spreading the word about them today. guess I'm happy here soaking up the tough love

 

and you know, you're name and style seems so familiar...... probably a co-incidence.