Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

illumintai

Investment Competition Advice

Recommended Posts

Dear all,

 

I am an economics student and about to start competing in a portfolio competition. I am given 50 trades for 3 months (in european stock markets), so i guess I will have to buy at the beginning and keep it as it is til the end.

 

One trouble is, though I have a rough understanding of the markets, i need a practical stock selection book, something i can cram for a week and analyse the charts/use some free online tools to screen the best stocks to keep for 3 months (please recommend a free screening tool !)

 

I have done an accounting module as well as corporate finance one, from which i got a first class (UK system), but surely its far from practical.

 

So, please advise what I should do.

 

Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

try taking 10 diversified stocks with good price volatility, exit any position that goes against you immediatly, and hold the ones that stay positive. some chart reading and earnings anticipation may help your odds but this is all i can think of doing in 3 months. good luck man.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

To win a competition you need specialisation in the sectors which are going to do well in the 3 month period. I wouldn't worry about specific stock selection unless it's for fine-tuning between a few leaders in their sector.

Your task will be to identify the industry sectors most likely to benefit from the economic conditions in future months. Not easy I know, but get the right sectors and concentrate on the leaders in those industries. Don't over diversify, 8-10 stocks in 3 sectors is my thought.

If it were now I'd take a chance on the beaten down banking sector for starters, regardless of how you see interest rates moving, they're due a bounce.

Once your stocks are performing (or not) you should look to reduce the number of stocks by selling the weaker performers on dips and increasing your holdings of the winners. Don't put too many eggs in one basket though, 5 stocks should see you through to the competition end.

Don't be tempted to take profits too quickly, you need to run your winners to come out on top. That means increasing your holding on pullbacks.

Finally, don't overtrade. When the whole market is underperforming, your stocks will too. You will require patience at times.

Good luck in the competition.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you want to win rather than just "do OK" you need to go all in on the highest risk bets you can find. You need to keep aggressively pyramid using all the margin available to you.

 

Sadly the tactics for winning competitions are quite different to those for successfully investing or trading.

 

Or maybe I am just a sceptic :)

 

EDIT: If you can get two 'accounts' it is much easier.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The guy asked for a stock selection book. Any ideas? Illuminati (if that is your REAL name) , unfortunately the majority of authors in this industry cannot trade, so they sell books. those who can't, teach. I'm sure you run up against that in school plenty of times.

 

If there was one book that you could cram in a week, then win an investment competition in three months, I'm sure we would all like to know which one it is.

 

Bottom line here - you need to get lucky. I don't know how you are graded on this, but if it is only on performance...

 

I would find some cheap stocks that are in motion, buy ten or fifteen, after a month sell the losers and dump all of the money into your winners. Ride the next 2 months.

 

This kind of fits in with Blowfish's sound advice.

 

(Or put it all in google.)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest forsearch
Illuminati (if that is your REAL name)

 

And waveslider is yours ???

 

:\

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sadly the tactics for winning competitions are quite different to those for successfully investing or trading.

 

Or maybe I am just a sceptic :)

 

Your spot on there. I've entered a few competitions like this and the difference between first place and last place is always that first place has one extremely positive outlier while last place has an extremely negative outlier.

If your trying to win and there are 20+ people in the class your best strategy is to put on 10 of the highest risk, correlated bets you can find and pray.

Obviously, if your being graded on building a real world/real money portfolio then this doesn't make sense. If your just trying to win though diversification is the enemy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah, if your goal is to win, you'll need to take some big risks (even some with slightly negative expectation) to put you ahead. These kinds of trading competitions promote very little "good" trading/investing.

 

If options are available to you, use them (you'll be able to get paid for more risk prema). I won an economics "investment competition" once by lobbying for use of derivates ("But, real investors and traders can use them!"), and then loaded up on risk. Classmate's account ballances were not known, so I had to guess how much I'd need to win. I ended up winning by 140ish% after some very lucky SPY OTM options.

 

The whole thing was a joke, because grades for the assignment were handed out on a bell curve based on account performance (top 20% got A's, next 30% got B's, next 40% got C's, and the rest got D's; if you didn't trade, you failed :) ). Additionally, The winner got 5 bonus points on the next test.

 

My overall strategy was to shoot for first, settle for a B (the top 50% got A's and B's, and it's extremely simple to make that group).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I obviously want to win this.

 

Can I just ask if anybody might be willing to offer some stock tips in the european markets ? i ploughed most of my assets in to oil firms and the result hasn't been so good. Need to save my portfolio !

 

Please help

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oil companies are well priced in terms of the price of oil, so it's not like you're getting a wonderful bargan. I don't know much about the European stock market, but make some high volatility earnings plays. Risk is your friend, if you're looking for first place. Small cap companies often have high volatility as well.

 

Are you allowed to short stocks?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

long only.

 

although I accept efficient market hypothesis explains all future cashflows to be discounted into the current share price, many reports suggest oil price to increase. Is this expectation also discounted into the current share price ?

 

Surely future profit of oil firms is calculated based on CURRENT oil price.... if I expect the oil to increase steadily in the next 10 weeks, can i expect oil firms' share price to increase by a similar amount ?

 

Thanks

Edited by illumintai

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Illumintai reports simply tell the past, just like charts. They report what has happened and project future price from past performance. Usually when everyone says the market is going a particular direction, the market has a tendency to do the opposite. Especially when it is non traders (such as many economists) predicting so. When everyone is buying, who is left to sell?

 

Avoid taking the easy trade, which in my opinion Oil seems to be. Making a gain in 3 months when you haven't traded before is more a gamble rather than performance based. My thoughts would be to tackle it from a deviation from the mean or average price. Put up some basic EMA's on the weakest performing sectors for the market you are trading. As you can't trade short, buy the ones that are the furthest underneath the EMA's and gamble on a return to the average or mean price.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi all,

 

Just an update half way through the competition.

 

In the first two weeks I portfolio was -27%.

 

Ever since then I cleared up most of my oil and gas stocks and added the most volatile 2 stocks with 7 financials.

 

2 most volatile ones were housing companines incidently (not mortgage related) and have been the best performers so far.

 

Thanks to your advice I am now, although still in negative territory, at -4%

 

6 weeks to go, hopefully I will end up in the top 10 (currently +15% is on top 10) !

 

Thanks again.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Date: 7th April 2025.   Asian Markets Plunge as US-China Trade War Escalates; Wall Street Futures Signal Further Turmoil.   Global financial markets extended last week’s massive sell-off as tensions between the US and its major trading partners deepened, rattling investors and prompting sharp declines across equities, commodities, and currencies. The fallout from President Trump’s sweeping new tariff measures continued to spread, raising fears of a full-blown trade war and economic recession.   Asian stock markets plunged on Monday, extending a global market rout fueled by rising tensions between the US and China. The latest wave of aggressive tariffs and retaliatory measures has unnerved investors worldwide, triggering sharp sell-offs across the Asia-Pacific region.   Asian equities led the global rout on Monday, with dramatic losses seen across the region. Japan’s Nikkei 225 index tumbled more than 8% shortly after the open, while the broader Topix fell over 6.5%, recovering only slightly from steeper losses. In mainland China, the Shanghai Composite sank 6.7%, and the blue-chip CSI300 dropped 7.5% as markets reopened following a public holiday. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index opened more than 9% lower, reflecting deep concerns about escalating trade tensions.           South Korea’s Kospi dropped 4.8%, triggering a circuit breaker designed to curb panic selling. Taiwan’s Taiex index collapsed by nearly 10%, with major tech exporters like TSMC and Foxconn hitting circuit breaker limits after each fell close to 10%. Meanwhile, Australia’s ASX 200 shed as much as 6.3%, and New Zealand’s NZX 50 lost over 3.5%.   Despite the escalation, Beijing has adopted a measured tone. Chinese officials urged investors not to panic and assured markets that the country has the tools to mitigate economic shocks. At the same time, they left the door open for renewed trade talks, though no specific timeline has been set.   US Stock Futures Plunge Ahead of Monday Open   US stock futures pointed to another brutal day on Wall Street. Futures tied to the S&P 500 dropped over 3%, Nasdaq futures sank 4%, and Dow Jones futures lost 2.5%—equivalent to nearly 1,000 points. The Nasdaq Composite officially entered a bear market on Friday, down more than 20% from its recent highs, while the S&P 500 is nearing bear territory. The Dow closed last week in correction. Oil prices followed suit, with WTI crude dropping over 4% to $59.49 per barrel—its lowest since April 2021.   Wall Street closed last week in disarray, erasing more than $5 trillion in value amid fears of an all-out trade war. The Nasdaq Composite officially entered a bear market on Friday, sinking more than 20% from its recent peak. The S&P 500 is approaching bear territory, and the Dow Jones Industrial Average has slipped firmly into correction territory.   German Banks Hit Hard Amid Escalating Trade Tensions   German banking stocks were among the worst hit in Europe. Shares of Commerzbank and Deutsche Bank plunged between 9.5% and 10.3% during early Frankfurt trading, compounding Friday’s steep losses. Fears over a global trade war and looming recession are severely impacting the financial sector, particularly export-driven economies like Germany.   Eurozone Growth at Risk   Eurozone officials are bracing for economic fallout, with Greek central bank governor Yannis Stournaras warning that Trump’s tariff policy could reduce eurozone GDP by up to 1%. The EU is preparing retaliatory tariffs on $28 billion worth of American goods—ranging from steel and aluminium to consumer products like dental floss and luxury jewellery.   Starting Wednesday, the US is expected to impose 25% tariffs on key EU exports, with Brussels ready to respond with its own 20% levies on nearly all remaining American imports.   UK Faces £22 Billion Economic Blow   In the UK, fresh research from KPMG revealed that the British economy could shrink by £21.6 billion by 2027 due to US-imposed tariffs. The analysis points to a 0.8% dip in economic output over the next two years, undermining Chancellor Rachel Reeves’ growth agenda. The report also warned of additional fiscal pressure that may lead to future tax increases and public spending cuts.   Wall Street Braces for Recession   Goldman Sachs revised its US recession probability to 45% within the next year, citing tighter financial conditions and rising policy uncertainty. This marks a sharp jump from the 35% risk estimated just last month—and more than double January’s 20% projection. J.P. Morgan issued a bleaker outlook, now forecasting a 60% chance of recession both in the US and globally.   Global Leaders Respond as Trade Tensions Deepen   The dramatic market sell-off was triggered by China’s sweeping retaliation to a new round of US tariffs, which included a 34% levy on all American imports. Beijing’s state-run People’s Daily released a defiant statement, asserting that China has the tools and resilience to withstand economic pressure from Washington. ‘We’ve built up experience after years of trade conflict and are prepared with a full arsenal of countermeasures,’ it stated.   Around the world, policymakers are responding to the growing threat of a trade-led economic slowdown. Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba announced plans to appeal directly to Washington and push for tariff relief, following the US administration’s decision to impose a blanket 24% tariff on Japanese imports. He aims to visit the US soon to present Japan’s case as a fair trade partner.   In Taiwan, President Lai Ching-te said his administration would work closely with Washington to remove trade barriers and increase purchases of American goods in an effort to reduce the bilateral trade deficit. The island's defence ministry has also submitted a new list of US military procurements to highlight its strategic partnership.   Economists and strategists are warning of deeper economic consequences. Ronald Temple, chief market strategist at Lazard, said the scale and speed of these tariffs could result in far more severe damage than previously anticipated. ‘This isn’t just a bilateral conflict anymore — more countries are likely to respond in the coming weeks,’ he noted.   Analysts at Barclays cautioned that smaller Asian economies, such as Singapore and South Korea, may face challenges in negotiating with Washington and are already adjusting their economic growth forecasts downward in response to the unfolding trade crisis.           Oil Prices Sink on Demand Concerns   Crude oil continued its sharp slide on Monday, driven by recession fears and weakened global demand. Brent fell 3.9% to $63.04 a barrel, while WTI plunged over 4% to $59.49—both benchmarks marking weekly losses exceeding 10%. Analysts say inflationary pressures and slowing economic activity may drag demand down, even though energy imports were excluded from the latest round of tariffs.   Vandana Hari of Vanda Insights noted, ‘The market is struggling to find a bottom. Until there’s a clear signal from Trump that calms recession fears, crude prices will remain under pressure.’   OPEC+ Adds Further Pressure with Output Hike   Bearish sentiment intensified after OPEC+ announced it would boost production by 411,000 barrels per day in May, far surpassing the expected 135,000 bpd. The alliance called on overproducing nations to submit compensation plans by April 15. Analysts fear this surprise move could undo years of supply discipline and weigh further on already fragile oil markets.   Global political risks also flared over the weekend. Iran rejected US proposals for direct nuclear negotiations and warned of potential military action. Meanwhile, Russia claimed fresh territorial gains in Ukraine’s Sumy region and ramped up attacks on surrounding areas—further darkening the outlook for markets.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • AMZN Amazon stock watch, good buying (+313%) toi hold onto the 173.32 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?AMZN
    • META stock watch, local support and resistance areas at 507.48, 557.84 at https://stockconsultant.com/?META
    • TMUS T-Mobile stock, watch for a top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?TMUS
    • KULR KULR Technology stock watch, pullback to 1.25 triple support area with bullish indicators at https://stockconsultant.com/?KULR
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.