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Just curious if anyone has any experience with Trading Mind software. It is a cd with 10 exercises to train your mind, for trading. Since, I do believe that one must master himself before mastering the markets, I would like to check this out. If anyone has any experience with this software or anything else like this, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

website link http://www.directyourmind.com/tradingmind.html

 

Thanks

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  Jwhite198621 said:
Just curious if anyone has any experience with Trading Mind software. It is a cd with 10 exercises to train your mind, for trading. Since, I do believe that one must master himself before mastering the markets, I would like to check this out. If anyone has any experience with this software or anything else like this, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

website link http://www.directyourmind.com/tradingmind.html

 

Thanks

 

I'd read this before sending your money

http://www.gurubusters.com/Scam_Gurus/Jake_Bernstein.html

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  Jwhite198621 said:
Just curious if anyone has any experience with Trading Mind software. It is a cd with 10 exercises to train your mind, for trading. Since, I do believe that one must master himself before mastering the markets, I would like to check this out. If anyone has any experience with this software or anything else like this, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

website link http://www.directyourmind.com/tradingmind.html

 

Thanks

 

Sounds and looks like a bunch of marketing BS to me. I mean the PS, PPS, PPPS thing really annoyed me. If you have a good product you don't need that many gimmicks IMO.

 

If you try it and I'm wrong do let me know though. ;)

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I have it somewhere. I am not an affirmation sort of guy so didn't use it that rigorously. The other thing was at the time I bought it I don't think I believed some of the affirmations deep down. I might dust it off and give it another go.

 

I wouldn't like to say yay or nay really.

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I got this piece of software a long time ago as a free bonus of something else that I bought, and I never gave it much attention partly because of Bernstein.

But recently someone told me the software is really good and Bernstein didn't make the software, but someone else did. He just marketed it. The problem is I don't seem to be able to find it, Hmm....

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I actually did a demo of one of the exercises, and it seemed like with continued use it would almost program you to think as a successful trader should. They claim all one needs is 24 minutes a week, and I guess any training activity done for extended period of time, in theory should work. So, either way thanks for the replies to the thread, has been very helpful.

 

Thanks

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You should just read Mark Douglas Trading in the Zone. I think more traders respect him and his books are very valued. He does a great job breaking down why new traders have such a hard time trading and the difference between successful traders.

 

New traders aren't accustomed to a place with no rules or structures. They feel like they have to know what's next and they have high expectations. These thoughts set themselves up for failure before they even open an account. Most traders feel pain when they are in a trade and it goes against them. Theres no reason to feel any sort of emotion when the market goes against you, the market generates neutral information it's not positive or negative in anyway. New traders expect the market to go their way, and when it doesn't they associate being wrong with pain due to the way we were all brought up.

 

Successful traders embrace uncertainty, they realize they don't need to know what will happen next. Basically they are rigid in their rules and flexible with their expectations.

 

One of my biggest problems is paralysis of analysis, I have the hardest time making a trade because I feel like I need to analyze everything to death. The more I start to believe that I don't need to know what will happen next, and I'm certain that the markets are random and can be influenced by just one trader somewhere, then that paralysis slowly fades. I have to train myself to follow my rules laid out by my plan and take full responsibility of my risk. If I'm wrong it just means I'm wrong, I don't expect to be right or wrong, which is why it's so important to define your risk before you enter a trade.

 

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It works for me.

Before I open up anything (browser, email, platform - ANYTHING) in the morning before work I run one of the sessions. Have been using it for three months.

I do find I am much more disciplined regarding my trading (and I am usually NOT disciplined at all). I used to think I was invincible after a string of wins now I am much more honest with myself so don't do too many dumb things. Been trading full time for 5 years - EOD not intraday.

Oz

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  Jwhite198621 said:
I grabbed this thing off ebay, for $60. I'll give it a go for 90 days and if it doesn't show some form of improvement I'll just get my money back. :cool:

 

Jwhite - any updates on this? Curious to hear from someone using it.

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I have this cd. Found it relaxing but it didn't have a positive impact on my trading. If you want something to put you in a good frame of mind try mindhabits.com. They have a free demo that supposedly works miracles. If anything it will make you feel more positive.

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I have Mark Douglas's Trading in the Zone book AND this Trading Mind CD.

 

Just like OzAsh, I use this CD everyday before turning on the trading platforms and it has been working ... in a sense that Mark Douglas book was helpful but one cannot expect to remember AND also apply the principles when you are in a trade. This Trading Mind Software will help strengthen the mind and your internal conscience when you need it. Each topic is probably 8-10 minutes ... so one can use it whenever they feel they need something.

 

I paid $39.95 recently for it so it is less that 1 point on the ES ...

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  FFTrader said:
I have Mark Douglas's Trading in the Zone book AND this Trading Mind CD.

 

Just like OzAsh, I use this CD everyday before turning on the trading platforms and it has been working ... in a sense that Mark Douglas book was helpful but one cannot expect to remember AND also apply the principles when you are in a trade. This Trading Mind Software will help strengthen the mind and your internal conscience when you need it. Each topic is probably 8-10 minutes ... so one can use it whenever they feel they need something.

 

I paid $39.95 recently for it so it is less that 1 point on the ES ...

 

I stand corrected. I paid $129.00 ... free shipping.

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When it first came out, I loved the concept of Trading Mind.

However I found the content of the suggestions to be so lame and limiting that I sent them back...

 

Bang for the buck, I have found no product out there that beats NeuroProgrammerX.x by Transparent Corp.

(ps - am a consumer only, have no commercial or ... yada yada)

 

All the best,

 

zdo

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  zdo said:
When it first came out, I loved the concept of Trading Mind.

However I found the content of the suggestions to be so lame and limiting that I sent them back...

 

Bang for the buck, I have found no product out there that beats NeuroProgrammerX.x by Transparent Corp.

(ps - am a consumer only, have no commercial or ... yada yada)

 

All the best,

 

zdo

 

Hi zdo,

 

Is Neuro Programmer base on the principles in binaural beats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats ? I am looking at stuff like Holosync.

 

Thanks,

FF

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  zdo said:
When it first came out, I loved the concept of Trading Mind.

However I found the content of the suggestions to be so lame and limiting that I sent them back...

 

Bang for the buck, I have found no product out there that beats NeuroProgrammerX.x by Transparent Corp.

(ps - am a consumer only, have no commercial or ... yada yada)

 

All the best,

 

zdo

 

http://www.transparentcorp.com/

 

Any recommendations zdo?

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Hi,

 

re "binaural beats " yes you can do binaurals but for some applications that is passe'

 

re Holosync. A user has done a great deal of research and has created "Deeper Than A Zen Monk" downloadable which with the bells he recommends is technically and aesthetically a freakn facsmile of Holosync - at a savings of almost $2000.00 USD

 

re 'hynosis' It comes with a bunch of built in sessions - including hypnosis induction like Trading Mind to which you can easily add your own scripts using your own voice, a text to speech voice, or a friend who has a 'hypnotic' voice...

 

I find running a variety of sessions is best for me - like physical workout 3 times a week whether I 'need' it or not...

 

From the provided sessions or from scratch, you can modify them to do just about any entrainment (or 'untrainment', btw) frequencies you want.

 

Excellent online community - both technically and 'growthfully'

 

got gamma? ;)

 

zdo

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  zdo said:

re Holosync. A user has done a great deal of research and has created "Deeper Than A Zen Monk" downloadable which with the bells he recommends is technically and aesthetically a freakn facsmile of Holosync - at a savings of almost $2000.00 USD

 

Hi zdo,

 

Where can I find this facsimile? :roll eyes:

 

Thx,

FF

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FF,

 

I believe you can get a trial of the product (and trial version may be slightly crippled btw). Join the Transparent forum and download it from there. It's called DTZM and the forum and instructions show you how to 'step' through the phases like the Holosynch's ...but you may need to be a registered NP owner first... don't know...

 

I would advise most to start with NeuroProgrammer. But for some, their next step up - MindWorkStation - may be the ticket because you can incorporate (limited) biofeedback with sessions.

 

btw - I got nothing against Bill Harris or Holosynch products at all. He's a great human being! It's like with trading systems though, very few of the purchasers are going to be a natural fit - so why spend all that money when you can trial it for a lot less and also have a tool in NP to work on many other things as well.

 

hth,

 

zdo

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  sunilrohira said:

 

sunilrohira,

Thanks. Please cross post this link to the Edge Vs Mentality thread in the psychology section... might open some eyes...

 

Fwiw, for all, Woodies site had two great audio's of M. Douglas at one point...haven't been there in years... hopefully they are still there...hth

zdo

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