Playing with the VMAR`s open research

[walterw 10]

Bruce : between NT and excell... excell doesnt have "traders" friendly charting environment... also, data feed issues.... for example I am enjoying right now a global crosshair on NT that we didnt have on mt4, so you can see what happens on diferent charts more clearly...

 

Thats my two cents comparing the "traders" side of this two platforms... cheers Walter.

[Sparrow 10]

Bruce,

 

You have a lot more insight into indicator development, than I do which imo is the more important thing. Porting from MT4 is pretty easy most of the time, but designing an indicator takes more than that. What I did with the rainbow and bands is a whole different beast, most of the time it requires just some simple lines of code. And remember I only got like 4 weeks of on and off experience with NT myself.

 

I think you'll have an easier time on NT and less headaches. One of the drawbacks is that there aren't that many indicators by other people around so MT4 still has its merits.

 

We could team up of course.

 

Cheers

[walterw 10]

Hi guys (and the rare woman ),

 

Sorry, I wasn't aware of the problem, even coded an indicator some time ago that that has the same bug. Using colors in NT without lines/bars is very uncommon and it really takes some effort to get the colors saved.

Fortunately a guy at NT already did this before, otherwise it would have taken me days.

 

Hope everything is fine now, happy researching/trading.

 

Hi Sparrow... thanks for this new version here... I did tested and the templates are working just fine... color issue resolved...

 

Bruce, Congrats on solving the tough problems with the Sniper CCI.

I might have not phrased my NT stuff clearly, NT has an unlimited amount of arrays.

 

I did a 1:1 translation of Bruce's code of the ADXVMA to NT.

Things could be simplified using more NT indicators, Bruce should be much better at that.

 

Hope I got it right, have fun.

 

Cheers

 

Wow... that was fast ¡¡ and it looks exactly the same...

 

one question, is it possible to translate adxvma6test3 ? this version has more inputs alternatives and its the ultimate waco version... also if we can add to this version a second line (included on the same indicator) that could be a signal line (average) with the alternative of choosing the type of average with averages : simple, linear weighted and Hull...

 

Hope this doesnt get anoying but it will create a very nice set of lines wich I was working on the 1 min chart at mt4... if we can get this pair of lines on a tick chart at NT.. it will certainly be very usefull...

 

let me share an example

 

 

 

i attach the mt4 indi as well... thanks Sparrow for this great contributions ¡¡ cheers Walter.

ADXVMA6Test3.mq4

[Sparrow 10]

Hi Walter,

 

didn't want the chimp to get bored, who knows what might happen.

So here's your other thing to toy arround with, surprisingly looks a lot like the vidya vma rainbow.

Taking a bit of a break, development will be a lot slower once we have caught up to the MT4 stuff.

Choosing the type of average is still missing, that's one of the weaknesses of NT, it takes a lot more to do this.

 

Cheers

ADXVMATest3_v1.0.zip

[walterw 10]

Hi Walter,

 

didn't want the chimp to get bored, who knows what might happen.

So here's your other thing to toy arround with, surprisingly looks a lot like the vidya vma rainbow.

Taking a bit of a break, development will be a lot slower once we have caught up to the MT4 stuff.

 

Cheers

 

Ok Sparrow ¡¡ now the chimp will go wild this weekend... he has a lot of nice tools on NT too full around ¡¡

 

he certainly is in a state of joy ¡¡¡ thanks a lot Sparrow ¡¡

 

cheers The Chimp.

[Sparrow 10]

Added the moving average selection to the Test3 and corrected the ADXVMA a bit.

 

It had only a small bug, but only during the first few bars, so no worries, nothing changed actually, just perfecting it.

 

Have a happy weekend, just go waco on the indicators

 

Maybe you know this one already, but here are a couple o cool apes

ADXVMA_v1.1.zip

ADXVMATest3_v1.1.zip

[walterw 10]

Yes Sparrow exactly THAT ¡¡

 

thats what I mean... look for example the thick black and white lines

 

 

the black is the vma and the white is a Hull signal line... mmmm :cool:

 

lots of edge there... have to really put all this together into a MAX Simplified and Optimized version...

 

Yhea nice chimps... I think I posted those inside of one of this threads, just hillarious ¡¡

 

take care man ¡¡ cheers Walter.

[unicorn 10]

 

thats what I mean... look for example the thick black and white lines

 

the black is the vma and the white is a Hull signal line... mmmm :cool:

 

Hello Walter;

 

Looking good. :thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:

Can you please post the same setup on a gbpusd chart or eurusd chart, as I do not have eurjpy data, and I therefore cannot compare your lines to my plot.

 

What are the exact parameters that you use on the adxvma and the Hull periods?

 

cheers.

Unicorn.

[unicorn 10]

Added the moving average selection to the Test3 and corrected the ADXVMA a bit.

 

Have a happy weekend, just go waco on the indicators

 

Hello Sparrow;

 

nice work :thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:

 

will you please explain the concept of the adxvma_test3 i.e. how this line is computed?

 

Also what are the parameters that are used ?

this is really a parameters adventure: adxvmatest3(1,4,25,hma,0,0,1,4,4,4,0). :confused:

 

cheers.

Unicorn.

[Sparrow 10]

Hi Unicorn,

 

I haven't got the slightest idea, all I did was taking Bruce's work and porting it to NT. As I said before it's one thing to port something and another to design an indicator. The main credit should go to Bruce.

 

I was very surprised by the parameter's list myself, but if you want to toy with something, that's the way to go .

 

Parameters are:

 

aDXPeriod

chandeEMA

mAPeriod

mAType

vI_0_VIsq_1_VIsqroot_2

vI_0_VIsqPlusRoot_1

vImax

weightDM

weightDI

weightDX

zeroVIbelow

 

Cheers

 

P.S.:

Great chart Walter, but the rainbow cover's to much of the price action for my taste, IMO 2 colors without the lines are enough, one for the faster part and one for the slower part. Adding lines to both ends of the rainbow( can be done with bands and an increment of 1 ) produces an ok result for my taste.

But being a noob, I am probably wrong .

[walterw 10]

Hello Walter;

 

Looking good. :thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:

Can you please post the same setup on a gbpusd chart or eurusd chart, as I do not have eurjpy data, and I therefore cannot compare your lines to my plot.

 

What are the exact parameters that you use on the adxvma and the Hull periods?

 

cheers.

Unicorn.

 

I am just playing Unicorn, nothing formal really... but it looks very nice...

 

this weekend I will be taking lots of cofee ¡¡ cheers Walter.

[walterw 10]

P.S.:

Great chart Walter, but the rainbow cover's to much of the price action for my taste, IMO 2 colors without the lines are enough, one for the faster part and one for the slower part. Adding lines to both ends of the rainbow( can be done with bands and an increment of 1 ) produces an ok result for my taste.

But being a noob, I am probably wrong .

 

Thanks for this ideas Sparrow.... I will do the cosmetics soon... It was a great idea of yours to put the fill alternative... looks really cool... cheers Walter.

[PYenner 10]

Great chart Walter, but the rainbow cover's to much of the price action for my taste, IMO 2 colors without the lines are enough, one for the faster part and one for the slower part. Adding lines to both ends of the rainbow( can be done with bands and an increment of 1 ) produces an ok result for my taste.

But being a noob, I am probably wrong .

I also need to see the price pattern but those rainbows make for great screen art...

Bemac used VImax=0.4 and I made the mistake of discarding it thinking it was a "nasty". Sometimes squares or mutipliers are appropriate to the maths and sometimes + or - offsets. So the sq and sq root stuff was just to see if there were other gains to be found like VImax=0.4 but so far nothing much.

All of the code has been experimental with constant bug fixes, it would be nice to get towards a finished product and no more fixes.

 

One of the problems with MT4 was the compiler really only does syntax checks, no real debugging or compiling and it looks like NT has a real compiler and the code runs a lot faster as well.

 

With porting the MT4 stuff, it would be good to get back to using the ema function so that "ema_periods" has a standard meaning. I often took shortcuts with the hand coded emas using an approximate "ema_periods" which confuses the picture.

 

And Sparrow, you are seriously fast coder

[unicorn 10]

I am just playing Unicorn, nothing formal really... but it looks very nice...

 

Thank you Walter.

 

In order to help in this vma research, I suggest the following:

 

Will you please plot a signal vma(ema_periods=2, adx_periods=2, stoch_periods=2), a signal vma(ema_periods=2, adx_periods=3, stoch_periods=3), and your new adxvmatest3(...) , on these eurusd and gbpusd charts, without the rainbow, and post them.

 

Actually my request is for two plots of each, the one with the default ma_periods =2, and the other with ma_periods=1.

To be precise what I am asking for is:

 

chart1

ADX:2, EMA:2, MA:2, Stoch:2

ADX:2, EMA:2, MA:2, Stoch:2

 

chart2

 

ADX:3, EMA:2, MA:1, Stoch:3

ADX:3, EMA:2, MA:1, Stoch:3

 

this weekend I will be taking lots of coffee.

 

I can relate to that. I will be looking for your post with the charts that I asked for, so that I compare them to my plots.

 

regards.

 

Everyone working on this project, Have a nice weekend guys.:pc guru:

Unicorn.

[Sparrow 10]

Just to show how the rainbows could look like here's my suggestion

 

Wish all a nice weekend as well, good team work guys

[Armand 10]

Just to show how the rainbows could look like here's my suggestion

 

Wish all a nice weekend as well, good team work guys

 

 

Very nice way to display the rainbow!

[sundowner 10]

Hi guys,

 

I see the direction of the research has changed... great, it's a pleasure seeing what you folks come up with next.

 

Just to say thanks again to Walter and PYenner for the fine work. I'll be sad to see the research on MT4 pass, and though I don't understand programming, it seems you've found a better platform and some knowledgeable partners.

 

Great team work is right.

 

PYenner, I had a successful week using your indicators and Walter's concepts trading 15 and 30 minute charts. Thanks for all the hard work.

 

Cheers

[unicorn 10]

Nice work Sparrow and Unicorn

 

Thank you Blu-Ray.

 

You have not posted a DAX chart recently.

Have you finalized your exit strategy?

 

Here is one. How has your ccivma helped in the trade management?

 

Cheers.

Unicorn.

[walterw 10]

Thank you Walter.

 

In order to help in this vma research, I suggest the following:

 

Will you please plot a signal vma(ema_periods=2, adx_periods=2, stoch_periods=2), a signal vma(ema_periods=2, adx_periods=3, stoch_periods=3), and your new adxvmatest3(...) , on these eurusd and gbpusd charts, without the rainbow, and post them.

 

Actually my request is for two plots of each, the one with the default ma_periods =2, and the other with ma_periods=1.

To be precise what I am asking for is:

 

chart1

ADX:2, EMA:2, MA:2, Stoch:2

ADX:2, EMA:2, MA:2, Stoch:2

 

chart2

 

ADX:3, EMA:2, MA:1, Stoch:3

ADX:3, EMA:2, MA:1, Stoch:3

 

 

 

I can relate to that. I will be looking for your post with the charts that I asked for, so that I compare them to my plots.

 

regards.

 

Everyone working on this project, Have a nice weekend guys.:pc guru:

Unicorn.

 

 

Here they go Unicorn... if you want a diferent time frame, you tell me...

 

with ma 2

 

 

 

with ma 1

 

 

the adxvma6test3 have the same inputs as previous chart.. (black and white)

 

Also a great weekend for you Unicorn ¡¡... cheers Walter.

[walterw 10]

Just to show how the rainbows could look like here's my suggestion

 

Wish all a nice weekend as well, good team work guys

 

 

Yes, it looks more friendly and doesnt get so clotted...

 

Certainly a great team work Sparrow ¡¡ you also enjoy this great weekend ¡¡

 

cheers Walter.

[unicorn 10]

I've attached the ccivma here, as for settings, I think it's just a matter of playing around with them.

 

Hello Blu-Ray;

 

Would you please describe the concept of the ccivma computation?

I am aware of the cci computation details; so your description could evolve around the cci computation, if that makes things easier.

 

I have noticed that you have uploaded the .eld file. Could you upload the .ela file as well?

 

Take it easy. Have a nice weekend.

Unicorn.

[PYenner 10]

Sundowner

Great to hear its working for you.

When I put in enough chart time to get the feel of the market it works well for me too.

 

If I understood MT4 better it might be easy enough to port things back to MT4 so maybe it will happen, but for the moment tools seem to be available in NT without having to hunt all over for them, so its about saving time and sanity.

 

With Sparrow being so capable it might leave me free to go searching in new directions without slowing down overall progress. His systematic approach is good to see.

 

There are still some MT4 things that may need exploring like fourier transforms and cluster indicators which may not have got started yet on other platforms. Time will tell...

Cheers

[walterw 10]

Hi guys,

 

I see the direction of the research has changed... great, it's a pleasure seeing what you folks come up with next.

 

Just to say thanks again to Walter and PYenner for the fine work. I'll be sad to see the research on MT4 pass, and though I don't understand programming, it seems you've found a better platform and some knowledgeable partners.

 

Great team work is right.

 

PYenner, I had a successful week using your indicators and Walter's concepts trading 15 and 30 minute charts. Thanks for all the hard work.

 

Cheers

 

 

Hi Sundowner... I wouldnt say it "changed" strictly as all the trading concepts will basicly be the same... maybe we are evolving to a diferent platform where we can use tick charts and have all the great benefits of very fine tuned timing , specially for the scalping oriented folks including me...

 

Certainly a great team ¡¡ for wich I am so greatfull ¡¡

 

I see you had been trading succesfully with the three line combo on the setuping... can you remind me what was the red line... it looks very nice for trend confirmation...

 

keep up that success ¡¡... your chart postings are very helpfull, please keep them coming... thanks Walter.

[Blu-Ray 10]

Thank you Blu-Ray.

 

You have not posted a DAX chart recently.

Have you finalized your exit strategy?

 

Here is one. How has your ccivma helped in the trade management?

 

Cheers.

Unicorn.

 

Hi Unicorn

 

I haven't posted a chart for a while as I'm in a bit of a bounce mode at the moment, for example I've spent quite a bit of time trying to keep up with PYenner and converting his MT4 indicators into TS. So from then on I study the new ones but then keep bouncing back to the original VMA1 Rainbow, then study the newer one etc.

 

I was testing an extreme scalping method using entries off a 10tick chart, but kept getting slipped on the DAX, so now just studying which is the best direction to go in, but having so much choice in the different vma's, choosing the right one's proving hard.

 

The CCiVMA did seem okay for when the Horizontal Effect was in place, but sometimes took too long to turn. I think it might have a future, but I need to know which vma's and settings I'm going to use on the price chart first before I delve deeper into that.

 

I do like your charts, they seem very clear cut, I think this is what keeps bringing me back to the VMA Rainbow, as you can visually see the momentum happening, whereas you can't with just 2 or 3 lines on a chart.

 

Hello Blu-Ray;

 

Would you please describe the concept of the ccivma computation?

I am aware of the cci computation details; so your description could evolve around the cci computation, if that makes things easier.

 

 

I have noticed that you have uploaded the .eld file. Could you upload the .ela file as well?

 

Take it easy. Have a nice weekend.

Unicorn.

 

Unfortunately I can't export the data out of TS into an ELA file, however I can send you the code in a PM if you want ( Rather than clutter up the thread ).

 

As for the computation, it's basically the code for the vma but instead of the vma based on the close, I changed it to the cci. However I am not that skilled in the department, like yourself and PYenner, where you can explain the indicator and it's full purpose.

 

Cheers

 

Blu-Ray

[walterw 10]

The CCiVMA did seem okay for when the Horizontal Effect was in place, but sometimes took too long to turn.

 

 

On my testings of this, I compared to some other combinations on the price pane, and unfortunately he had too much lag for timing purposes... that was my conclusion on this indi... he looks apealing, but doesnt perform that well.. lol cheers Walter.