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walterw

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>>I take my hat off to Bruce for doing such a great job on the MT4 system as it looks awful to program on.

 

Thanks Blu-Ray but I keep finding mistakes in nearly all my programs.

Don't have the patience or the focus that I used to have.

 

Walter

I expect the live bars/missed ticks problem exists only on MT4.

Their implementation of an indicator package can't be considered fully successful.

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ADXVMA6Tick1.mq4

These are 2 of the fastest lines I can get out of vma6.

They provide a very short term trend definition for use as an aid to scalper exits.

Although the picture shows them in a full screen, they would normally be used in a 1min chart which is tall and narrow and zoomed right in.

There can be less than 1 pip of price difference between the two lines, so the chart needs to be tall, but like a tick chart it does not have to be very wide.

The only difference between the two lines is that the setting of VImax=0.6 affects only the second line (preset to yellow but you can alter the colors).

 

If you want more gap between the lines, reduce VImax to 0.5 but it will also make the second line slower.

 

If you want a faster comparison, set VImax to 0.7 or 0.8 but there will then be less visible gap between the two lines.

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If it matters, the settings for the fastest line are-

ADX_Bars=2

WeightDM=1.1 (unstable with 1.0)

WeightDI=1.0

WeightDX=1.0

ChandeEMA=1.0

 

Fancy stuff all off.

1.0 ema means no smoothing, no ema.

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Thanks Blu for posting the cci charts, they have some potencial there, I imagine making the inputs adjustments required... using the latest vma formulas from Bruce and you would have some piece of oscillator there...

 

About Ninja, It would be interesting if you check their language... thanks for your good will Blu-Ray cheers Walter.

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ADXVMA6Tick1.mq4

These are 2 of the fastest lines I can get out of vma6.

They provide a very short term trend definition for use as an aid to scalper exits.

Although the picture shows them in a full screen, they would normally be used in a 1min chart which is tall and narrow and zoomed right in.

There can be less than 1 pip of price difference between the two lines, so the chart needs to be tall, but like a tick chart it does not have to be very wide.

The only difference between the two lines is that the setting of VImax=0.6 affects only the second line (preset to yellow but you can alter the colors).

 

If you want more gap between the lines, reduce VImax to 0.5 but it will also make the second line slower.

 

If you want a faster comparison, set VImax to 0.7 or 0.8 but there will then be less visible gap between the two lines.

 

 

So now Bruce we could say we have a tight one... I will like to see him performing also arround the new signal lines I am creating with adxvmatest2 /3...

 

What do you think about Blu-Ray`s cci`s ?

 

I did test and NO plotting issues on adxvmatest 1/ 2/ 3... the chimp is testing inputs jejeje... cheers Walter.

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Some of the plotting issues came from my mistakes, some come from MT4 missing ticks. I have not used the fix because it only corrects bar data after it has become historical, it still does not give you valid live tick data to trade with.

I have been trying to be tactful, but basically if MT4 cant provide reliable tick data then bottomline- it is unreliable.

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Some of the plotting issues came from my mistakes, some come from MT4 missing ticks. I have not used the fix because it only corrects bar data after it has become historical, it still does not give you valid live tick data to trade with.

I have been trying to be tactful, but basically if MT4 cant provide reliable tick data then bottomline- it is unreliable.

 

Well so far so good... when I reload this indicators they look the same to what real time showed... so at this point I would say its ok...

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My approach with cci will be similar to adx-

Pull it apart, try to make sense of each bit and how the bits work together,

what works for us and what works against us?

Somehow I need to get a normalized signal out of it, then things can be done with it.

 

Unfortunately I had the thought that price versus volume would also give something like HEs and laddering.

Dude. I need to live like 300 years to think about all this stuff....

 

Still got things to learn/do with adxvma yet and trying not to go off track from that yet.

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Dude. I need to live like 300 years to think about all this stuff....

 

QUOTE]

 

Our banana republic island could come handy uhu ? take your time Bruce I think we got quite far man... I am working on a series of setups with new vma`s will start new thread soon... cheers the Chimp.

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Tried a similar approach with 20 bar settings, the "5min definition" thing.

Both set to 20 bars but yellow one has VImax=0.8.

Notice the agreement on trend definition from 2 different methods, R over Y and Magenta crossing.

 

Not finding much use for the fancy stuff so far.

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Hi Blu-Ray ... I was looking your chart from yesterday... have some questions and requests... whats your rainbow and faster line on the price pane ?

 

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could you post a chart with a cci 6 and smaller vma settings like 16 or 8, even 4 to see what tight response cci could have on smaller inputs ? ideal would be to see several panes of cci with diferent settings...

 

have you checked ninja stuff ? hope I dont drive you nuts... cheers The Chimp..

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Hi Blu-Ray ... I was looking your chart from yesterday... have some questions and requests... whats your rainbow and faster line on the price pane ?

 

could you post a chart with a cci 6 and smaller vma settings like 16 or 8, even 4 to see what tight response cci could have on smaller inputs ? ideal would be to see several panes of cci with diferent settings...

 

have you checked ninja stuff ? hope I dont drive you nuts... cheers The Chimp..

 

 

Walter

 

The Fantail is a VMA1 with the yellow line a VMA3.

 

Here goes for the charts, same time period all with 6 period cci:

 

1st: VarMA_Length 4, ADX_Length 8

 

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2nd: VarMA_Length 8, ADX_Length 16

 

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3rd: VarMA_Length 4, ADX_Length 4

 

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4th: VarMA_Length 8, ADX_Length 8

 

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5th: VarMA_Length 16, ADX_Length 16

 

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With regards to Ninja, the language looks very close to MT4, which looks a minefield. I'm currently trying to code that ccivma into MT4 but so far just coming up with a load of errors :crap: ( Oh how I love TS :cool:)

 

Cheers

 

Blu-Ray

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Thanks so much Blu-Ray for posting this charts... it is clear that this is the oscillator of the future... I always dreamed with this type of oscillator...

 

we will have to bribe Bruce with some nanas to get this programed into mt4 jejeje or offer him some higher ranks on the republic...

 

what I basicly see is the clean and leading properties of vma on a very nice clean and leading oscillator... just beautifull ¡¡ cheers Walter.

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ADXVMA6Tick2.mq4

Intended to be used with Tick1.

Where Tick1 gives something like a "1min trend signal" (what do you call it?),

Tick2 gives something like a "2.5min trend signal".

 

Now a warning, take the Tick2 trend signal with a huge pinch of salt,

it will NOT tell you which direction the price is going to break in,

completely unreliable because of the odd time delay used.

 

Using Tick2 will be about art not science, but with practice and patience it looks like it can be a useful guide for scalps and possible ladder steps.

Recommend demo scalping at first, not real $.

 

There is a picture titled "Tick2" in a previous post showing behaviour on a weak trend but it needs live practice imo.

 

There are user settings in Tick2 so you can experiment with multiple copies set to different speeds.

ADXVMA6Tick2.mq4

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Now I understand... been trying to get those lines today, just couldnt... would charts on posts 362 and 363 also be tick 2 ?

 

also white and magenta lines on post 371 are ? nice clean medium term Bruce... cheers Walter.

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very good trend definitions there, even this evening I had been testing tick 2 wich is also outstanding...

 

I just aded to your definition template the tick 2... look how nice it gives pure centrifugal trends and centripetal refreshing ones...

 

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Now for timing we should seriously had to consider getting those cci`s Blu-Ray coded... are they to hard to translate into MT4 ? what I notice is that we need some kind of oscillator that could make the timing readings more simplified.. are we to far from making this possible Bruce... dont want to be anoying... cheers The Chimp.

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I just aded to your definition template the tick 2... look how nice it gives pure centrifugal trends and centripetal refreshing ones....
Yes I tried playing with some 20 or 30 emas in there, at first it looks promising, then it looks useless. It would be good to have a band, lines on both side of the price, we have only one line from vma "5min", a question is... could a "mirror image" of the "5min" vma line be added on the other side of the price, so we have a sort of bb effect? Perhaps a 20 ema on one side and a reflection of 2O ema on the other side, or modify a bb?

Now for timing we should seriously had to consider getting those cci`s Blu-Ray coded... are they to hard to translate into MT4 ?

I see only a couple of possibilities for an oscillator type display, whether it is adxvma VI signal or a CCI type signal, a trade signal needs to start and end on the zero centre line crossing in an oscillator pane. Whether VI or CCI, the signal will have to be processed to get that effect. Adx is better understood than cci.

I cant offer you what you ask for, I can only ask you to choose between the two choices that I understand.

what I notice is that we need some kind of oscillator that could make the timing readings more simplified.. are we to far from making this possible

An oscillator needs to go from -1 to +1, the VI signal from adxvma might be displayed like this. This would be the quickest place to look for a quick fix. Cci will take as long as it takes, I have no idea how long that will be, there are many cci possibilities, it will take time to work thru them.

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CAV1.mq4

CCI_ADX_VMA

Set to its fastest settings.

Settings similar to "5min" might be 20,20,20,20,20,10, 0.4, ignore the rest.

Using the cci signal as the input instead of price.

Lambert made the cci formula non-linear which is probably why the first half of a ladder shows up well (ok), but the second half shows only weakly (not ok).

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