Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

nishant

What leverage is??? How it works??

Recommended Posts

Hello Everyone!

 

I'm grossly confused on what leverage means. Please help me out.

 

I'm putting an example:- Say, i'm having an account balance of $1133 and trading 100000 units as 1 lot and have a leverage of 100:1. So margin shall be $1000. So what does it basically mean? Does it mean that i can bear a loss till $1000 on that particular position or is that i can face a loss till $133 as the cushion towards my prospective loss before i get a margin call? Say for instance if i go short in GBP @ 2.0300 with a limit of 2.0100. What kind of Stop loss will subject me to margin call? What if i set stop loss at 2.0450? At what rate will i receive margin call and will eventually make Stop loss automatically triggered?

 

Further what shall be my position if i'm taking leverage of 200:1 instead of 100:1 with the same scenario above? After how many pips going against me from the level of my entry viz 2.0300 will subject me to a margin call? (or at what rate?)

 

Please help as i'm totally confused with the subject. Else if someone can provide me article links which happens to be exhaustive and makes my query clear.

 

Regards

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  nishant said:
Hello Everyone!

 

I'm grossly confused on what leverage means. Please help me out.

 

I'm putting an example:- Say, i'm having an account balance of $1133 and trading 100000 units as 1 lot and have a leverage of 100:1. So margin shall be $1000. So what does it basically mean? Does it mean that i can bear a loss till $1000 on that particular position or is that i can face a loss till $133 as the cushion towards my prospective loss before i get a margin call? Say for instance if i go short in GBP @ 2.0300 with a limit of 2.0100. What kind of Stop loss will subject me to margin call? What if i set stop loss at 2.0450? At what rate will i receive margin call and will eventually make Stop loss automatically triggered?

 

Further what shall be my position if i'm taking leverage of 200:1 instead of 100:1 with the same scenario above? After how many pips going against me from the level of my entry viz 2.0300 will subject me to a margin call? (or at what rate?)

 

Please help as i'm totally confused with the subject. Else if someone can provide me article links which happens to be exhaustive and makes my query clear.

 

Regards

 

Hi Nishant... a 200:1 leverage its not serious on my opinion...

 

100:1 its ok... let me give you the EFX example as I consider them a nice broker as they have an ECN type platform...

 

1 contract moves 10.000 units of X currency on x pair... for the sake of simplicty lets say its a USD pair ej. USD/JPY... so in that case each contract will cost you $100 as your leverage is 100:1 wich is $100 x 100 leverage = 10.000 units...

 

In terms of margin calls it depends on the broker... some work with a 25% others if their is equity for you position... no problem...

 

should you have at least $200 on acct for each $100 you trade you should be ok... and manage yourself with technical stops... hope this makes some sense... cheers Walter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Nishant

 

$1133 is too small to be trading a whole lot, even a half lot would be stressful.

Opening a 1 lot position would take out $1000, leaving $133, but your pip margin would normally take another $10 per pip, depends on the pair, but there is only 13 pips = $130 (typically) to cover pip margin plus drawdown before you get a margin call.

 

If you trade half lots, entry costs you $500 plus $5 typically per pip of pip margin, say $10 in EURUSD for example, you then have $490 or about 49 pips of drawdown before you get a margin call. But you may need to read your suppliers rules to find out what call limits they apply.

 

If your supplier uses a 25% margin limit that might be nearly $300 on a $1200 balance and you probably are "allowed" to spend only $900 when opening a trade. So a 1 lot trade might get "insufficient funds" but a 1/2 lot might work.

 

Any balance below $2500 makes for stressful trading even using just half lots for me. It has been said that nobody has been known to successfully trade a 200:1 account long term, but maybe that is just talk, I don't know. I believe it would be frustratingly slow to trade with and the temptation to overtrade would crash the account for most people. It is said that the average trade lasts 1 to 4 hours and to spend 2-8 hours working for like $20, maybe, is maddening.

 

Leverage is very much a two edged sword, you need some leverage yet it is also the thing that kills most peoples balances I suspect. I am uncomfortable trading 1 lot on a $5k balance, I have become aware that it is tighter to trade with than it seems. You don't have to get far below $5k before drawdown frightens you and then you start becoming too nervous to leave a trade running. Close out on $20 plus or minus and find the pip margin eats your equity away when you trade like that. Leverage can be a stress mine field.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you compare p/l per pip on trades in the same pair on different weeks, you will probably find it paid or cost different $/pip on different weeks. It is not a fixed $/pip, it varies constantly with exchange rates.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

leverage can be lethal. When things go wrong, complete wipe outs are the typical results. And note that I am not saying "If things go wrong..." because at some point, they will!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

All I can think is that in very quiet sections of the forum they might only be a couple of pages back. Of course once they have been bumped it's pretty much impossible to tell. I dunno it's a bit of a mystery to me. Actually sometimes when its an 'olden but golden' thread and the new input is substantive it can be welcome. More often than not that is not the case though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  brownsfan019 said:
How do people even find threads 2 years old? Who has the time to do that?...:roll eyes:

bored forex traders?

 

anyway, since I am here, some info for beginners:

 

-How much in dollars is this movement worth, for example, per 100,000 Euros in EUR/USD?

 

(one pip, with proper decimal placement / currency exchange rate) x 100,000

 

(.0001/1.2550) x EUR100,000 = EUR 7.97

 

But we want the pip value in USD, so we then must multiply EUR 7.97 x (EUR/USD exchange rate): EUR 7.97 x 1.2550 = $10

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Leverage is the ability to gear up your account- for low capital investors , a high leverage would be helpful as for example :

you want to open a 0.01 lot of EUR/USD , using a 1:1000 leverage you will need 0.16 margin , but with 1:500 u will need 0.31 Margin ( depends on quote at that time )

so the more your leverage gets lowered the more margin you will need to open a trade .

also keep in mind that high leverages are a potential risk for beginners so watch out of it

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • HLF Herbalife stock, watch for a bull flag breakout above 9.02 at https://stockconsultant.com/?HLF
    • Date: 1st April 2025.   Will Gold’s Rally Hold Strong as New Trade Tariffs Take Effect Tomorrow?   Gold continues to increase in value for a sixth consecutive day and is trading more than 17% higher in 2025. Amid fear of higher inflation, a recession and the tariffs war escalating investors continue to invest into Gold pushing demand higher. The trade policy from April 2nd onwards continues to be a key factor for the whole market. Can Gold maintain its upward trend? Trade Policy From Tomorrow Onwards Starting as soon as tomorrow, a 25% tariff will be imposed on all passenger cars imported into the United States. While this White House policy is anticipated to negatively affect European industrial performance, it will also lead to higher transportation and maintenance costs for everyday American taxpayers. The negative impact expected on both the EU and US is one of the reasons investors continue to buy Gold. Additionally, last month, President Donald Trump announced reciprocal sanctions against any trade partners that impose import restrictions on US goods. Furthermore, tariffs on products from Canada and the EU could increase even more if they attempt to coordinate a response. Overall, investors continue to worry that new trade barriers will prompt retaliatory measures, particularly from China, the Eurozone, and Japan. Any retaliation is likely to escalate the trade conflict and prompt another reaction from the US. Experts at Goldman Sachs and other investment banks warn that this will lead to rising inflation and unemployment. They also caution that it could effectively halt economic growth in the US.   XAUUSD 1-Hour Chart   The Weakness In The US Dollar Another factor which is allowing the price of XAUUSD to increase in value is the US Dollar which has been unable to maintain any bullish momentum. Despite last week’s Core PCE Price Index rising to its highest level since February 2024, the US Dollar has been unable to see any significant rise in value. Due to the US Dollar and Gold's inverse correlation, the price of Gold is benefiting from the Dollar weakness. Investors worry that new trade barriers will prompt retaliatory measures from China, the Eurozone, and Japan, potentially escalating the conflict. Experts at The Goldman Sachs Group Inc. believe that such actions by the US administration will drive rising inflation and unemployment while effectively halting economic growth in the country. Can Gold Maintain Momentum? When it comes to technical analysis, the price of Gold is not trading at a price where oscillators are indicating the instrument is overbought. The Relative Strength Index currently trades at 68.88, outside of the overbought area, since Gold’s price fell 0.65% during this morning’s session. However, even with this decline, the price still remains 0.40% higher than the day’s open price. In terms of fundamental analysis, there continues to be plenty of factors indicating the price could continue to rise. However, the price movement of the week will also partially depend on the employment data from the US. The US is due to release the JOLTS Job Vacancies for February this afternoon, the ADP Non-Farm Employment Change tomorrow, and the NFP Change and Unemployment Rate on Friday. If all data reads higher than expectations, investors may look to sell to lock in profits at the high price. Key Takeaway Points: Gold’s Rally Continues – Up 17% in 2025 as investors seek safety from inflation, recession fears, and trade tensions. Trade War Impact – New US tariffs and potential retaliation from China, the EU, and Japan drive uncertainty, boosting Gold demand. Weak US Dollar – The Dollar’s struggle supports Gold’s rise due to their inverse correlation. Gold’s Outlook – Uptrend may continue, but US jobs data could trigger profit-taking. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Michalis Efthymiou HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • Date: 31st March 2025.   Trump Confirms Tariffs on All Countries, Sending Stocks Lower.   The NASDAQ continues to trade lower due to the US confirming the latest tariffs will be on all countries. In addition to this, bearish volatility also is largely due to the higher inflation data from Friday. The NASDAQ declines to its lowest price since September 11th 2024. Core PCE Price Index - Inflation Increases Again! The PCE Price Index read 2.5% aligning with expert forecasts not triggering any alarm bells. However, the Core PCE Price Index rose from 0.3% to 0.4% MoM and from 2.7% to 2.8% YoY, signalling growing inflationary pressure. This increases the likelihood that the Federal Reserve will maintain elevated interest rates for an extended period. The NASDAQ fell 2.60% due to the higher inflation reading which is known to pressure the stock market due to pressure on consumer demand and a more hawkish Federal Reserve. Boston Fed President Susan Collins recently commented that tariffs could drive up inflation, though the long-term impact remains uncertain. She told journalists that a short-term spike is the most probable outcome but believes the current pause in monetary policy adjustments is appropriate given the prevailing uncertainties. Although, certain investment banks such as JP Morgan actually believe the Federal Reserve will be forced into cutting rates. This is due to expectations that the economy will struggle under the new trade policy. For example, JP Morgan expects the Federal Reserve to delay rate cuts but will quickly cut towards the end of 2025. Market Risk Appetite Takes a Hit! A big factor for the day is the drop in the risk appetite of investors. This can be seen from the VIX which is up almost 6%, Gold which is trading 1.30% higher and the Japanese Yen which is the day’s best performing currency. Most safe haven assets, bar the US Dollar, increase in value. It is also worth noting that all indices are decreasing in value during this morning's Asian session with the Nikkei225 and NASDAQ witnessing the strongest decline. Previously the stock market rose in value as investors heard rumours that tariffs would only be on certain countries. This bullish swing occurred between March 14th and 25th. Over the weekend, President Donald Trump indicated that the upcoming tariffs would apply to all countries, not just those with the largest trade imbalances with the US. NASDAQ - Technical Analysis In terms of technical analysis, the NASDAQ continues to obtain indications that sellers control the price action. The price opens on a bearish price gap measuring 0.30% and trades below all Moving Averages on all timeframes. The NASDAQ also trades below the VWAP and almost 100% of the most influential components (stocks) are declining in value.     The next significant support level is at $18,313, and the resistance level stands at $20,367.95. Key Takeaway Points: NASDAQ falls to its lowest since September 2024 as the US confirms tariffs on all countries, adding to inflation concerns. Core PCE inflation rises to 0.4% MoM and 2.8% YoY, increasing the likelihood of prolonged high interest rates. Investor risk appetite drops as VIX jumps 6%, gold gains 1.3%, and safe-haven assets outperform. NASDAQ shows strong bearish momentum, trading below key technical levels with support at $18,313 and resistance at $20,367.95. Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Michalis Efthymiou HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • PM Philip Morris stock, top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?PM
    • EXC Exelon stock, nice range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?EXC
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.