Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

brownsfan019

Any Sierra Chart users here?

Recommended Posts

As I've posted before, I am a big fan of MultiCharts... up until Monday. I am using Open ECry for my data source and as another thread stated, OEC did a fairly substantial upgrade that became mandatory last Friday. Apparently vendors, such as Multi and Sierra, were given plenty of notice and MC is now telling me maybe next week it will be compatible. Well, I obviously can't wait to see when MC might get around to it. The short story is this upgrade required charting co's to change their dll's to work better with the new OEC upgrade.

 

So, if you are using Sierra, I'd love to hear the good and bad. I am demo'ing it now, but you can only tell so much at first glance. My charts are basic, I just need a reliable and stable platform that does not lag in real-time.

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Sierra!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I tried Sierra a while back, and it was really tough for me to get a handle on with all the acronyms for all the chart features. Granted, I use a simple chart setup, as well, but something just didn't click with me and Sierra. It seemed a bit too clunky for me. Now, the charting package is cheap as hell, which is nice...but I use a Mac for all my stuff and am used to things that look fabulous. MC, to me, looks like it would look awesome and easy to use. I do use Parallels on my Mac to access Windows for my execution via TransAct. I wanted to find something that I could use that feed with to cut down on expenses...but really nothing came close to doing what InvestorRT does for me in terms of ease of use and slickness of the look. When I'm staring at something for 8 hours a day, it needs to be easy on my eyes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cooter
As I've posted before, I am a big fan of MultiCharts... up until Monday. I am using Open ECry for my data source and as another thread stated, OEC did a fairly substantial upgrade that became mandatory last Friday. Apparently vendors, such as Multi and Sierra, were given plenty of notice and MC is now telling me maybe next week it will be compatible. Well, I obviously can't wait to see when MC might get around to it. The short story is this upgrade required charting co's to change their dll's to work better with the new OEC upgrade.

 

So, if you are using Sierra, I'd love to hear the good and bad. I am demo'ing it now, but you can only tell so much at first glance. My charts are basic, I just need a reliable and stable platform that does not lag in real-time.

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Sierra!

 

This question is not just related to Sierra, but OEC in general, I suppose.

 

How much historical data are you able to pull from OEC for third-party charting apps like Sierra? Specifically, A. tick data and B. minute-bars...

 

Just wondering if it would be worth my while to drop TS and migrate to Sierra, assuming that the historical data is available.

 

Does OEC also have indices such as $TICK, $TRIN, $WPCVA (putcall), and $VIX available, or is their feed limited to established futures symbols only?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I tried the demo and whle it looked nice...it was too frustrating for me..but maybe that is my fault...

 

At first glance, Sierra sort of reminded me of ensign...but that is only on a cursory observation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
As I've posted before, I am a big fan of MultiCharts... up until Monday. I am using Open ECry for my data source and as another thread stated, OEC did a fairly substantial upgrade that became mandatory last Friday. Apparently vendors, such as Multi and Sierra, were given plenty of notice and MC is now telling me maybe next week it will be compatible. Well, I obviously can't wait to see when MC might get around to it. The short story is this upgrade required charting co's to change their dll's to work better with the new OEC upgrade.

 

So, if you are using Sierra, I'd love to hear the good and bad. I am demo'ing it now, but you can only tell so much at first glance. My charts are basic, I just need a reliable and stable platform that does not lag in real-time.

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Sierra!

 

Hey Brownsfan. I use Sierra Chart for now. It was a step up from the Interactive Brokers charting.

 

I'm not very impressed with Sierra Chart. I have one chartbook with 4 charts in it. As far as I know it doesn't allow me to view the charts in different windows. I'm forced to view all the charts from the same window and to flip through them I have to press F4 to go back a chart and F9 to go forward a chart.

 

I'm also not impressed with their contract symbol entry system. For example, with Interactive Brokers to get a quote of YM all I have to do is type YM and it gives me several choices, one of them is Futures, and when I chose that it has choices of contracts. With Sierra Chart it is not automatic like that. When I first started Sierra Chart it was a bit of a hassle to figure out their contract symbol system.

 

And I don't think Sierra Chart offers chart trading. For example, it doesn't allow me to quickly adjust stops by moving a stop line on the chart. There is an order entry window, but I'm looking for a platform that allows me to trade directly from the chart and quickly adjust stops by simply moving a stop line on a chart rather then manually type in the number.

 

Also, on my Sierra Chart I was not able to place vertical grid lines. It is in the menu as an option but when I click on it it doesn not work. The horizontal grid lines work.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hey Abe, did you experiment with IB's bracket orders feature? It's pretty good for quick trades along with stop/target placement that you can configure in order defaults...

 

http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/orders/bracket.php

 

Sorry if this is nothing new to you.

 

Thanks Nvesta. I looked at IB's bracket order a while ago and was not able to get it to work properly. Currently I setup an order row and right click on it and select auto stop, then type in the stop amount, and then execute the order, which is usually a market order. I feel the process takes too long and sometimes I'm not able to get in when I want. But I should adjust the default stop level to the standard 10 points that I usually use to help speed up the process.

 

I'm interested in bracket order if it allows partial fills. For example, if I want to trade 2 contracts, can I set a bracket order to sell one contract at +10 and keep the other contract indefinitely?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Did you try Bracket trader i did and it works good for me

http://www.bracket-trader.com

mkp14

 

Thanks mkp14. I'm moved away from IB to Open E Cry for my paper trades. It's $24 or something around there per month for simulator account, but it is the best deal I could find. Good charting, good DOM, clean and user friendly. I tried Ninja Trader's simulator acccount running on IB feed. Other than the fact that the Ninja Trade part is free I'm not impressed with it. So it looks like I'll be staying with the Open E Cry for paper trading.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cooter
Thanks mkp14. I'm moved away from IB to Open E Cry for my paper trades. It's $24 or something around there per month for simulator account, but it is the best deal I could find. Good charting, good DOM, clean and user friendly. I tried Ninja Trader's simulator acccount running on IB feed. Other than the fact that the Ninja Trade part is free I'm not impressed with it. So it looks like I'll be staying with the Open E Cry for paper trading.

 

If you really want to save the $24/mo at OEC, just sign up for the demo again with a different e-mail when your account expires.

 

Or deposit say, $50K with them, start pushing volume and maybe you'll get the same deal as Brownie did, and they'll waive the monthly fee for your demo.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
If you really want to save the $24/mo at OEC, just sign up for the demo again with a different e-mail when your account expires.

 

Or deposit say, $50K with them, start pushing volume and maybe you'll get the same deal as Brownie did, and they'll waive the monthly fee for your demo.

 

Too much trouble IMO. I will close my IB account and save the $10 per month that I get charged for not trading. Their technoloy is very poor for day trading.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hey Brownsfan. I use Sierra Chart for now. It was a step up from the Interactive Brokers charting.

 

I'm not very impressed with Sierra Chart. I have one chartbook with 4 charts in it. As far as I know it doesn't allow me to view the charts in different windows. I'm forced to view all the charts from the same window and to flip through them I have to press F4 to go back a chart and F9 to go forward a chart.

 

I'm also not impressed with their contract symbol entry system. For example, with Interactive Brokers to get a quote of YM all I have to do is type YM and it gives me several choices, one of them is Futures, and when I chose that it has choices of contracts. With Sierra Chart it is not automatic like that. When I first started Sierra Chart it was a bit of a hassle to figure out their contract symbol system.

 

And I don't think Sierra Chart offers chart trading. For example, it doesn't allow me to quickly adjust stops by moving a stop line on the chart. There is an order entry window, but I'm looking for a platform that allows me to trade directly from the chart and quickly adjust stops by simply moving a stop line on a chart rather then manually type in the number.

 

Also, on my Sierra Chart I was not able to place vertical grid lines. It is in the menu as an option but when I click on it it doesn not work. The horizontal grid lines work.

 

Hello. I just want to add regarding my highlighted comment above that Sierra chart may allow you to view multiple charts on different monitors. At the Infinity webinar this morning the host said that there is a way to view the charts on multiple monitors. I did not figure out how to do that when I was using Sierra. And I'm not certain if the host understood my question. Either way, if you are interested in using Sierra you might want to look into that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cooter

You mean other than by stretching the main window to cover all the monitors?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You mean other than by stretching the main window to cover all the monitors?

 

The host said something about dragging the chart to the other monitor. But again, he may have not understood my question.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sierra Charts

@AbeSmith

 

some correction:

1) You can view multiple charts on your monitor or on two monitors.

Each chart will be in its own window, so you need to make it smaller same like

any window in MS Windows. If you use 2 monitors, you expand the programm over those two monitors, and the cahrt windowns you then drag around as you wish between those monitors, same again, like in windows.

 

2) you can adjust your stop directly on chart. For thi, you need to activate "chart trade mode" (its under Trading, it says "chart trade mode on/off)

 

I use Sierra Charts with IB. If you have chart trading mode on, and you issue an order to open a position, you will alos see that line on the chart. you can also issue an order directly from the chart, besides the order entry.

 

Unfortunatelly Sierra Chart does not have a DOM entry system like Ninja Trader.

 

3) I fully agree, that the symbol entry is the worst part in Sierra Chart. You have to enter it manually, it will get safed like a file, very confusing, and with Futures you then need to delete and enter a new symbol each time on roll over.

But once it is all set up, you safe it under chartbook, and thats it. You just have to then adjust the expired futures. Shares and FOREX is for ever.

 

4) you can have vertical lines, and customize them its under charts settings (F5).

 

 

Resume:

I also talked to a Broker on Infinity, and he comfirmed me, that Sierra Charts is the best bang for your buck. I pay 25$ per months, for a package with has many features, only thing I miss is TPO (MArket Profile), which costs more if you want that feature.

Sierra Charts is also highly customizable, but it needs time to get used to it.

When I first saw it, I did not use it, untill that broker told me to give it a second try. I am glad for that hint.

Once you get used to it, and have everything set up once, it is very fast.

Ninja Trader is way slower loading charts.

Of course, IB charting is the worst ever, and does not compare

 

Hint:

there is a programm called button Trader, which is an exclusive entry system only for TWS. Its a very nice DOM, with tons of features, and incredible fastt.

Its not for free, but you can test it forover, works with TWS paper trading account.

Also when I enter a trade with button trader, and have chart trading on, I will see the line on the chart in Sierra Charts. Of course you see the entry in TWS as well.

Button Trader is great for scalping, because its so fast and tick accurate.

(only works with IBs TWS)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey Browns Fan,

 

I use Sierra Charts. There are some weak points, but overall, I am an advocate. It is highly customizeable. On my trading screen setup, I have one trading chart (YM or ES), TICKS, TRIN, and an anchor chart displayed at the same time.

 

SC is interested in improving their services, and they release an updated, new-and-improved version once or twice a month. Nearly every time I watch a TTM video on which Hubert shows a feature on TS, I find that SC has the same feature.

 

SC has a ton of command shortcuts. I am planning to make a cheat sheet for them all sometime (that's medium priority, so it keeps getting pushed back). It has pretty much any indicator you could want (though you're not into that stuff). Screen updates are fast (at most 0.5 sec behind brokerage data).

 

SC has tick charts and volume charts.

 

Pros:

- price

- lots of features

- custom programmable tools

- support forum

 

Cons:

- backfill on data can be a pain

- daily charts are a separate file from intraday

- in mid 07 currency daily charts weren't loading properly (since fixed)

- may have to reprogram any custom indicators using C++

- user interface could be a little prettier

 

One disadvantage is that by the time you're getting used to SC, MultiCharts will probably be back up and running.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Bam-Bam

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Date: 7th April 2025.   Asian Markets Plunge as US-China Trade War Escalates; Wall Street Futures Signal Further Turmoil.   Global financial markets extended last week’s massive sell-off as tensions between the US and its major trading partners deepened, rattling investors and prompting sharp declines across equities, commodities, and currencies. The fallout from President Trump’s sweeping new tariff measures continued to spread, raising fears of a full-blown trade war and economic recession.   Asian stock markets plunged on Monday, extending a global market rout fueled by rising tensions between the US and China. The latest wave of aggressive tariffs and retaliatory measures has unnerved investors worldwide, triggering sharp sell-offs across the Asia-Pacific region.   Asian equities led the global rout on Monday, with dramatic losses seen across the region. Japan’s Nikkei 225 index tumbled more than 8% shortly after the open, while the broader Topix fell over 6.5%, recovering only slightly from steeper losses. In mainland China, the Shanghai Composite sank 6.7%, and the blue-chip CSI300 dropped 7.5% as markets reopened following a public holiday. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index opened more than 9% lower, reflecting deep concerns about escalating trade tensions.           South Korea’s Kospi dropped 4.8%, triggering a circuit breaker designed to curb panic selling. Taiwan’s Taiex index collapsed by nearly 10%, with major tech exporters like TSMC and Foxconn hitting circuit breaker limits after each fell close to 10%. Meanwhile, Australia’s ASX 200 shed as much as 6.3%, and New Zealand’s NZX 50 lost over 3.5%.   Despite the escalation, Beijing has adopted a measured tone. Chinese officials urged investors not to panic and assured markets that the country has the tools to mitigate economic shocks. At the same time, they left the door open for renewed trade talks, though no specific timeline has been set.   US Stock Futures Plunge Ahead of Monday Open   US stock futures pointed to another brutal day on Wall Street. Futures tied to the S&P 500 dropped over 3%, Nasdaq futures sank 4%, and Dow Jones futures lost 2.5%—equivalent to nearly 1,000 points. The Nasdaq Composite officially entered a bear market on Friday, down more than 20% from its recent highs, while the S&P 500 is nearing bear territory. The Dow closed last week in correction. Oil prices followed suit, with WTI crude dropping over 4% to $59.49 per barrel—its lowest since April 2021.   Wall Street closed last week in disarray, erasing more than $5 trillion in value amid fears of an all-out trade war. The Nasdaq Composite officially entered a bear market on Friday, sinking more than 20% from its recent peak. The S&P 500 is approaching bear territory, and the Dow Jones Industrial Average has slipped firmly into correction territory.   German Banks Hit Hard Amid Escalating Trade Tensions   German banking stocks were among the worst hit in Europe. Shares of Commerzbank and Deutsche Bank plunged between 9.5% and 10.3% during early Frankfurt trading, compounding Friday’s steep losses. Fears over a global trade war and looming recession are severely impacting the financial sector, particularly export-driven economies like Germany.   Eurozone Growth at Risk   Eurozone officials are bracing for economic fallout, with Greek central bank governor Yannis Stournaras warning that Trump’s tariff policy could reduce eurozone GDP by up to 1%. The EU is preparing retaliatory tariffs on $28 billion worth of American goods—ranging from steel and aluminium to consumer products like dental floss and luxury jewellery.   Starting Wednesday, the US is expected to impose 25% tariffs on key EU exports, with Brussels ready to respond with its own 20% levies on nearly all remaining American imports.   UK Faces £22 Billion Economic Blow   In the UK, fresh research from KPMG revealed that the British economy could shrink by £21.6 billion by 2027 due to US-imposed tariffs. The analysis points to a 0.8% dip in economic output over the next two years, undermining Chancellor Rachel Reeves’ growth agenda. The report also warned of additional fiscal pressure that may lead to future tax increases and public spending cuts.   Wall Street Braces for Recession   Goldman Sachs revised its US recession probability to 45% within the next year, citing tighter financial conditions and rising policy uncertainty. This marks a sharp jump from the 35% risk estimated just last month—and more than double January’s 20% projection. J.P. Morgan issued a bleaker outlook, now forecasting a 60% chance of recession both in the US and globally.   Global Leaders Respond as Trade Tensions Deepen   The dramatic market sell-off was triggered by China’s sweeping retaliation to a new round of US tariffs, which included a 34% levy on all American imports. Beijing’s state-run People’s Daily released a defiant statement, asserting that China has the tools and resilience to withstand economic pressure from Washington. ‘We’ve built up experience after years of trade conflict and are prepared with a full arsenal of countermeasures,’ it stated.   Around the world, policymakers are responding to the growing threat of a trade-led economic slowdown. Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba announced plans to appeal directly to Washington and push for tariff relief, following the US administration’s decision to impose a blanket 24% tariff on Japanese imports. He aims to visit the US soon to present Japan’s case as a fair trade partner.   In Taiwan, President Lai Ching-te said his administration would work closely with Washington to remove trade barriers and increase purchases of American goods in an effort to reduce the bilateral trade deficit. The island's defence ministry has also submitted a new list of US military procurements to highlight its strategic partnership.   Economists and strategists are warning of deeper economic consequences. Ronald Temple, chief market strategist at Lazard, said the scale and speed of these tariffs could result in far more severe damage than previously anticipated. ‘This isn’t just a bilateral conflict anymore — more countries are likely to respond in the coming weeks,’ he noted.   Analysts at Barclays cautioned that smaller Asian economies, such as Singapore and South Korea, may face challenges in negotiating with Washington and are already adjusting their economic growth forecasts downward in response to the unfolding trade crisis.           Oil Prices Sink on Demand Concerns   Crude oil continued its sharp slide on Monday, driven by recession fears and weakened global demand. Brent fell 3.9% to $63.04 a barrel, while WTI plunged over 4% to $59.49—both benchmarks marking weekly losses exceeding 10%. Analysts say inflationary pressures and slowing economic activity may drag demand down, even though energy imports were excluded from the latest round of tariffs.   Vandana Hari of Vanda Insights noted, ‘The market is struggling to find a bottom. Until there’s a clear signal from Trump that calms recession fears, crude prices will remain under pressure.’   OPEC+ Adds Further Pressure with Output Hike   Bearish sentiment intensified after OPEC+ announced it would boost production by 411,000 barrels per day in May, far surpassing the expected 135,000 bpd. The alliance called on overproducing nations to submit compensation plans by April 15. Analysts fear this surprise move could undo years of supply discipline and weigh further on already fragile oil markets.   Global political risks also flared over the weekend. Iran rejected US proposals for direct nuclear negotiations and warned of potential military action. Meanwhile, Russia claimed fresh territorial gains in Ukraine’s Sumy region and ramped up attacks on surrounding areas—further darkening the outlook for markets.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • AMZN Amazon stock watch, good buying (+313%) toi hold onto the 173.32 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?AMZN
    • META stock watch, local support and resistance areas at 507.48, 557.84 at https://stockconsultant.com/?META
    • TMUS T-Mobile stock, watch for a top of range breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?TMUS
    • KULR KULR Technology stock watch, pullback to 1.25 triple support area with bullish indicators at https://stockconsultant.com/?KULR
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.