Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

Recommended Posts

James - I would suggest that any time a new vendor is posting on TL - whether by request of you or not - you introduce them to the forum. In this thread - http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/f37/afraid-of-failure-1993.html - I can see where the concern would come from when there's a new thread by a vendor, in this case Joe Ross. The immediate concern by many traders is what is the motive of this person posting here. It's a fine line obviously, but as TL grows, many more vendors will want in on the action. Not too mention, from your biz perspective, you should be monitoring all activities by such vendors on your forum. This site is not free to run, so if someone wants to 'advertise' here (directly or not) you should be compensated.

 

I would suggest some sort of intro from you regarding the vendor to the forum to help avoid threads becoming a discussion of what motive(s) this vendor may have, even if those motives are commercial. Let's just put the cards on the table and not create a smoke and mirrors environment.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I completely agree, however the post in question was never made to be a commercial type post from my perspective. I'd never heard of Joe Ross, so I figured it was just another trader giving some information that many of us have heard many times over.

 

If someone was to begin posting their website or other services, then by all means, the motive is known and if he's (or she) is not paying for advertising on the site then either get them to pay or have them be gone. I have since closed that thread, btw.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

tin - we won't always know every vendor on the site, but I think the concern was what the real motive behind posting. If Joe and/or James provided a brief disclaimer that while Joe is a vendor he is here to contribute, or he is here to market, that makes things easier. Of course it's easy for a vendor to say they are just here to participate when in reality they are here to market. I would guess that most reservations us 'regular' guys have with vendors on a board is that all of us have seen few (if any) that actually just want to be a 'regular' guy on a board. Of course, if that's what they wanted, they could just make an anonymous screen name.... ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Brown, I completely agree and understand your point. What I personally didn't know is that this guy had a "motive" behind his posting. For someone to read that post, not knowing this guy from your average "joe", there would be no inference of anything commercial in it. I guess that's where Im coming from with regards to it. If there was any hint of anything commercial in that post, then for sure....do away with it if he's not gonna pay for the advertising. I just think it could have easily been you or torero or jperl or anyone whos name couldve been atop that post and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

Hope that helps to clarify my points.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cooter

Question is...

 

Do you know whether it is really that vendor or not?

 

Could be someone using his or her name to hawk the vendor's services via a referral link to their webpage, BTW.

 

I say this only because the writing style seems hauntingly similar to another vendor on the site.

 

Just my two ticks' worth...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Joe Ross signed up as a "Registered Trader" and provided an appropriate biography in his profile stating that he is an educator, etc. Isn't that an appropriate introduction? I believe he did the right thing by providing the disclaimer. He should be held to the same rules as everyone else. If he starts pushing his products and services without having the appropriate vendor status on TL, then the moderators should handle his posts accordingly.

 

My suggestion is to ask people if they are a vendor during the registration process, and if so, require them to include an appropriate biography/disclaimer like Joe Ross did. "Registered Traders" who are also vendors can then have their handle set a different color, or something like that, to make others aware of them. If a vendor lies during registration and (s)he is busted, then (s)he should be called out and put to shame. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest cooter
  ant said:
Joe Ross signed up as a "Registered Trader" and provided an appropriate biography in his profile stating that he is an educator, etc. Isn't that an appropriate introduction? I believe he did the right thing by providing the disclaimer. He should be held to the same rules as everyone else. If he starts pushing his products and services without having the appropriate vendor status on TL, then the moderators should handle his posts accordingly.

 

My suggestion is to ask people if they are a vendor during the registration process, and if so, require them to include an appropriate biography/disclaimer like Joe Ross did. "Registered Traders" who are also vendors can then have their handle set a different color, or something like that, to make others aware of them. If a vendor lies during registration and (s)he is busted, then (s)he should be called out and put to shame. :D

 

 

I or anyone else could sign up as "Joe Schmoe", famous trader, with all the relevant info given. And I could use an affiliate link to a vendor website as my homepage.

 

Vendors should be vetted by the appropriate moderator or site admin prior to posting to ensure that it is they who are speaking in their own voice, and not just some affiliate impostor posing on their behalf.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  cooter said:
I or anyone else could sign up as "Joe Schmoe", famous trader, with all the relevant info given. And I could use an affiliate link to a vendor website as my homepage.

 

Vendors should be vetted by the appropriate moderator or site admin prior to posting to ensure that it is they who are speaking in their own voice, and not just some affiliate impostor posing on their behalf.

 

 

Thats true cooter... it wil be very conveniant to validate his identity... anyway he deserves respect from our part.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good points guys. No easy solution I suppose.

 

You don't want to turn away a potential contributing member to the board and we also don't want to turn this into a trading sales forum either.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess this is a repetition from another thread but you have to give people the benefit of the doubt. He may sell something but until he commits that act, we shouldn't judge him. Indeed, if impersonate as someone else by another nickname, posting the same content, no one would say anything. We all judge too hastily. Wait for him to commit the act, then book him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well I personally have paid over $150 for Joe Ross' books. However, I am more than pleased to have him on board with us. This place is about knowledge, improvement, and education. Any content and information that fall into this category is valued from my perspective.

 

Regarding vendors and educators, the tip on having to include this in the registration process is an excellent idea. Also please feel free to post any thoughts or recommendations regarding this topic. I will absorb these ideas and try to create an atmosphere accordingly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

James - along the lines of identifying vendors in the registration, it would be helpful if then there was some sort of unique identifier in their screenname that would tell everyone real quick this is a vendor. That could eliminate threads turning into a debate. If everyone easily knows (w/o having to click their profile and read thru it), that could help minimize concerns. It doesn't need to be gaudy, just a small icon or something that would symbolize this person is some sort of trading vendor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  brownsfan019 said:
James - along the lines of identifying vendors in the registration, it would be helpful if then there was some sort of unique identifier in their screenname that would tell everyone real quick this is a vendor. That could eliminate threads turning into a debate. If everyone easily knows (w/o having to click their profile and read thru it), that could help minimize concerns. It doesn't need to be gaudy, just a small icon or something that would symbolize this person is some sort of trading vendor.

 

Great idea. Perhaps when a member points out that he/she is a vendor or educator they can be placed in a seperate usergroup for clarification purposes. Hence under their username a different label will appear. I will add this on my to-do-list. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • NFLX Netflix stock watch, local support and resistance areas at 838.12 and 880.5 at https://stockconsultant.com/?NFLX
    • NFLX Netflix stock watch, local support and resistance areas at 838.12 and 880.5 at https://stockconsultant.com/?NFLX
    • Hello citizens of the U.S. The hundred year trade war has leaked over into a trading war. Your equity holdings are under attack by huge sovereign funds shorting relentlessly... running basically the opposite of  PPT operations.  As an American you are blessed to be totally responsible for your own assets - the govt won’t and can’t take care of you, your lame ass whuss ‘retail’ fund managers go catatonic  and can't / won’t help you, etc etc.... If you’re going to hold your positions, it’s on you to hedge your holdings.   Don’t blame Trump, don’t blame the system, don’t even blame the ‘enemies’ - ie don’t blame period.  Just occupy the freedom and responsibility you have and act.  The only mistake ‘Trump’ made so far was not to warn you more explicitly and remind you of your options to hedge weeks ago.   FWIW when Trump got elected... I also failed to explicitly remind you... just sayin’
    • Date: 7th April 2025.   Asian Markets Plunge as US-China Trade War Escalates; Wall Street Futures Signal Further Turmoil.   Global financial markets extended last week’s massive sell-off as tensions between the US and its major trading partners deepened, rattling investors and prompting sharp declines across equities, commodities, and currencies. The fallout from President Trump’s sweeping new tariff measures continued to spread, raising fears of a full-blown trade war and economic recession.   Asian stock markets plunged on Monday, extending a global market rout fueled by rising tensions between the US and China. The latest wave of aggressive tariffs and retaliatory measures has unnerved investors worldwide, triggering sharp sell-offs across the Asia-Pacific region.   Asian equities led the global rout on Monday, with dramatic losses seen across the region. Japan’s Nikkei 225 index tumbled more than 8% shortly after the open, while the broader Topix fell over 6.5%, recovering only slightly from steeper losses. In mainland China, the Shanghai Composite sank 6.7%, and the blue-chip CSI300 dropped 7.5% as markets reopened following a public holiday. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index opened more than 9% lower, reflecting deep concerns about escalating trade tensions.           South Korea’s Kospi dropped 4.8%, triggering a circuit breaker designed to curb panic selling. Taiwan’s Taiex index collapsed by nearly 10%, with major tech exporters like TSMC and Foxconn hitting circuit breaker limits after each fell close to 10%. Meanwhile, Australia’s ASX 200 shed as much as 6.3%, and New Zealand’s NZX 50 lost over 3.5%.   Despite the escalation, Beijing has adopted a measured tone. Chinese officials urged investors not to panic and assured markets that the country has the tools to mitigate economic shocks. At the same time, they left the door open for renewed trade talks, though no specific timeline has been set.   US Stock Futures Plunge Ahead of Monday Open   US stock futures pointed to another brutal day on Wall Street. Futures tied to the S&P 500 dropped over 3%, Nasdaq futures sank 4%, and Dow Jones futures lost 2.5%—equivalent to nearly 1,000 points. The Nasdaq Composite officially entered a bear market on Friday, down more than 20% from its recent highs, while the S&P 500 is nearing bear territory. The Dow closed last week in correction. Oil prices followed suit, with WTI crude dropping over 4% to $59.49 per barrel—its lowest since April 2021.   Wall Street closed last week in disarray, erasing more than $5 trillion in value amid fears of an all-out trade war. The Nasdaq Composite officially entered a bear market on Friday, sinking more than 20% from its recent peak. The S&P 500 is approaching bear territory, and the Dow Jones Industrial Average has slipped firmly into correction territory.   German Banks Hit Hard Amid Escalating Trade Tensions   German banking stocks were among the worst hit in Europe. Shares of Commerzbank and Deutsche Bank plunged between 9.5% and 10.3% during early Frankfurt trading, compounding Friday’s steep losses. Fears over a global trade war and looming recession are severely impacting the financial sector, particularly export-driven economies like Germany.   Eurozone Growth at Risk   Eurozone officials are bracing for economic fallout, with Greek central bank governor Yannis Stournaras warning that Trump’s tariff policy could reduce eurozone GDP by up to 1%. The EU is preparing retaliatory tariffs on $28 billion worth of American goods—ranging from steel and aluminium to consumer products like dental floss and luxury jewellery.   Starting Wednesday, the US is expected to impose 25% tariffs on key EU exports, with Brussels ready to respond with its own 20% levies on nearly all remaining American imports.   UK Faces £22 Billion Economic Blow   In the UK, fresh research from KPMG revealed that the British economy could shrink by £21.6 billion by 2027 due to US-imposed tariffs. The analysis points to a 0.8% dip in economic output over the next two years, undermining Chancellor Rachel Reeves’ growth agenda. The report also warned of additional fiscal pressure that may lead to future tax increases and public spending cuts.   Wall Street Braces for Recession   Goldman Sachs revised its US recession probability to 45% within the next year, citing tighter financial conditions and rising policy uncertainty. This marks a sharp jump from the 35% risk estimated just last month—and more than double January’s 20% projection. J.P. Morgan issued a bleaker outlook, now forecasting a 60% chance of recession both in the US and globally.   Global Leaders Respond as Trade Tensions Deepen   The dramatic market sell-off was triggered by China’s sweeping retaliation to a new round of US tariffs, which included a 34% levy on all American imports. Beijing’s state-run People’s Daily released a defiant statement, asserting that China has the tools and resilience to withstand economic pressure from Washington. ‘We’ve built up experience after years of trade conflict and are prepared with a full arsenal of countermeasures,’ it stated.   Around the world, policymakers are responding to the growing threat of a trade-led economic slowdown. Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba announced plans to appeal directly to Washington and push for tariff relief, following the US administration’s decision to impose a blanket 24% tariff on Japanese imports. He aims to visit the US soon to present Japan’s case as a fair trade partner.   In Taiwan, President Lai Ching-te said his administration would work closely with Washington to remove trade barriers and increase purchases of American goods in an effort to reduce the bilateral trade deficit. The island's defence ministry has also submitted a new list of US military procurements to highlight its strategic partnership.   Economists and strategists are warning of deeper economic consequences. Ronald Temple, chief market strategist at Lazard, said the scale and speed of these tariffs could result in far more severe damage than previously anticipated. ‘This isn’t just a bilateral conflict anymore — more countries are likely to respond in the coming weeks,’ he noted.   Analysts at Barclays cautioned that smaller Asian economies, such as Singapore and South Korea, may face challenges in negotiating with Washington and are already adjusting their economic growth forecasts downward in response to the unfolding trade crisis.           Oil Prices Sink on Demand Concerns   Crude oil continued its sharp slide on Monday, driven by recession fears and weakened global demand. Brent fell 3.9% to $63.04 a barrel, while WTI plunged over 4% to $59.49—both benchmarks marking weekly losses exceeding 10%. Analysts say inflationary pressures and slowing economic activity may drag demand down, even though energy imports were excluded from the latest round of tariffs.   Vandana Hari of Vanda Insights noted, ‘The market is struggling to find a bottom. Until there’s a clear signal from Trump that calms recession fears, crude prices will remain under pressure.’   OPEC+ Adds Further Pressure with Output Hike   Bearish sentiment intensified after OPEC+ announced it would boost production by 411,000 barrels per day in May, far surpassing the expected 135,000 bpd. The alliance called on overproducing nations to submit compensation plans by April 15. Analysts fear this surprise move could undo years of supply discipline and weigh further on already fragile oil markets.   Global political risks also flared over the weekend. Iran rejected US proposals for direct nuclear negotiations and warned of potential military action. Meanwhile, Russia claimed fresh territorial gains in Ukraine’s Sumy region and ramped up attacks on surrounding areas—further darkening the outlook for markets.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • AMZN Amazon stock watch, good buying (+313%) toi hold onto the 173.32 support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?AMZN
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.