Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

walterw

Trading CL with the QM Proxy in a Chimp Fashion

Recommended Posts

Hello dear fellow traders... I decided to do a little sharing for some while, its been sometime since I dont share some of my latest stuff, and I am inspired to do it at this time..

 

In this thread I will share a simple easy method to trade the Crude Oil ( CL ) futures contracts... but it has an interesting aproach because it uses the mini Lot QM data to come up with the trend definition... You see, CL its a very very volatile future, and its not that easy to establish correct trend definitions at times... so using the QM mini lot data, as a proxy for trend definition, I finded it very intersting to see it in work...

 

It is simple, because I do beleive in simple technical analisis, compared to all the new fancy stuff that unfortuantely it may look fancy and atractive but the botton line of live trading accts does not necesarily look that fancy as well...

 

This CL thread that I will be contributing for some time is just to prove that easy and simple things work very well...

 

The Chimp style and fashion its present... adxvma stuff combined with multitimeframe ( and in this case multidata ) analisis... Thats say is my edge in the context of simplicity...

 

I do not trade the CL myself, just to small amount of contracts for me... I am an ES trader myself and like to trade larger volumes... but the idea here is to bring some light into what a simple aproach can do to those traders that maybe at this time are quite confused and stressed by the complex fancy stuff that doesnt give them more than a good looking chart in paralel with a small trading acct ...

 

So lets get started on the next post... cheers, The Chimp

 

chimp1.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So this method for CL will be in the direction of the Trend... so it will show a way to do "Trend Trades" on CL...

 

Now the catch is that we will not define Trend on CL itself, but we will do it on its parent Future QM ( emini Crude Oil ) .. this QM trades less than CL, so it has less data than CL and that is usefull for us because it will clean a lot of noise to determine the Trend..

 

Also it will help us to stay inside the trade.. and this is a great issue on the trading comunity... STAYING inside a trade... you see, if you dont stay inside a trade, then you will never make clever money.... in the past decade I learned that you need to clear out the noise that shakes you out of trades without any need.. just to see after you where stoped out, how the market continue on the direction of the trade you "where in" ...

 

So the QM chart I will be showing here, does exactly that... it gives a good Trend Definition and it will also be a good "keep inside the trade" tutor... so you can relax and enjoy the show on a Chimp style Fashion...

 

 

Lets define Trend...

 

QM_Downtrend.png

 

In a QM 20 Tick Chart we will have three averages, a white, Black and yellow lines..

 

They are this : Yellow ADXVMA 2 , Black ADXVMA 6 , White EMA 15 of an ADXVMA 6

 

So trend definition its very simple :

 

For Uptrend : Yellow above Black and Black above White

 

For Downtrend : Yellow below Black and Black below White

 

With this three line aligned in that fashion, we will say that we got a "PURE TREND" and that we are ready to start looking into the CL Chart to find precise entry spots...

 

QM_Uptrend.png

 

I will add on a later post indicators and templates as well... cheers The Chimp

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So now that you got a nice clean Trend definition, you need a place to get in...

 

Dont pretend to get on the best spot... thats where tarders have problems and loose just to much time studing, pretending to get the best spot and not get any heat while on a position...

 

The truth is, that you will at time get on the best spot, but on the most cases it will not be on the best spot... and the chimp says WHO CARES ??

 

You see, thats weakness and a subjective way of thinking, when you pretend to get on the best spot...

 

But WHY do traders are so anxious to get always on the best spot ? just to see over and over that it is an imposible task to be done... WHY ? because they dont have a way to STAY INSIDE the trade when obviusly a high amount of trades in a natural and profesional trading conditions it is absolute normality to take heat on trades...

 

So we dont care that much if our entry its not that best spot... we will care more to be able to manage the trade, being able to Stay inside rather to look for the imposible perfection of super fantastic unrealistic good entries...

 

Offcourse entries must have a certain degree of competitive criteria, but they must not have that pressure on them... you trade otherwise nervous, anxious... with guilt during heat... frustration on stops... suicide after years of burning accts :)

 

so on next post maybe tomorrow I will show a simple Entry rule already on the CL future chart itself and also post indicators and template... now I got hungry and zome muzzarella pizza its awaiting me... cheers The Chimp.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So lets continue... We defined trend on the QM 20 tick chart, and as I mentioned on the previous post now we need to get a specific Entry definition... but without the pressure of being "perfect" ....

 

So for that purposes we need a CL 65 tick chart where we will get our entry...

 

CL_Short.png

 

What we want is first a PULLBACK against the trend with the green line crossing the black line oposite to the trend... followed by the TIMING by the crossing of the green line to the black line in the direction of the trend... this are adxvma averages... chimp stuff... this are "clean" averages...

 

CL_Long.png

 

Very simple way of getting in...

 

Now on the next post I will show you the greatest edge on this method... wich is the way to STAY INSIDE the trade and go for good moves without taking unecesary stops...

 

Let me grab some cofee here...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So you can see on the pictures of the previous post, how I define trend with a QM 20 tick chart and define pullback / timing on the CL 65 tick chart... You are suposed to trade the CL :)

 

So How do I STAY INSIDE this trade ?... well simple, if the yellow line crosses the black line on the QM chart, then YES its a stop... if not, its NOT a stop :crap:

 

You will see a lot of noise... lot of moves on your favor and on heat against you happening on the CL ( your position future ) but you dont care about that... just focus on the yellow and black line on the QM chart...

 

That criteria will be used for stop and for ultimate exit... YES you may get out on a nice fixed target before, but that fixed target must be at least 1:1.5 RRR to the average stop size...

 

Here stops can be in USD quite important, and profits very nice as well... so CL trading its not for small accts.. This morning I fulled arround with 5 contracts and I would recomend to asign at least 5k per contract to be psicologicaly sound...

 

So here I post some exits examples :

 

Exit_Short.png

 

Long_Exit.png

 

In this examples you can see that I used the QM chart to close my trade on the CL Future... thats called a "Proxy" chart... the nice thing is that QM its not that crazy as the CL, but it goes on the same direction, calling for good trend definition, stops and ultimate exit...

 

On next post I will add indi and templates.... gradually I will be showing examples and maybe some videos ( course style ) to make it more clear... cheers The Chimp.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello, fellow traders... let me update some setups from today monday on the CL using our proxy system on the QM...

 

23_2_1.png

 

 

23_2_2.png

 

 

Nice moves... simple stuff and very clean... cheers, The Chimp

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello fellow traders... I wanted to make a little update on the CL Proxy trade, using the QM for clean trend definition...

 

Its a nice clean trade and also using the ADXVMA it makes it a great clean timing...

 

Here are two nice trades today :

 

qm_cl_1.png

 

qm_cl_2.png

 

 

As I mentioned before, the QM gives the trader an edge for trend definition because it doesnt have that much noise as CL ... so you can have a clean trend definition on QM and use it for trading the CL... Also it can keep you inside the trade and clean up the noise that would normally trigger an exit...

 

Coments for people who have tried this are very welcome...

 

For those who contacted me via email about my "other stuff", YES its still available... it has being a true success story so far, it doesnt get aint better really...

 

just keep in touch. Nice having all this fans here at TL, someone asked me wich Thread I consider the best one from the good times when the chimp was active here, and I may say pretty much all of them adds to the learning curve of any trader... but the adxvma strategies are the best and they really changed my trading after that great discovery here... great times of interaction and development...

 

good trading, cheers The Trader Chimp

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice to see you back Walter! I don't post much but I read a lot. I've learned more about KISS trading from your threads back in the day than just about anywhere else. Thanks for all the generous posting. You've helped a lot of people. I hope to see you back some more in the future!

 

Scott

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • LZ LegalZoomcom stock, watch for a bull flag breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?LZ
    • XMTR Xometry stock, watch for a local breakout above 37.5, target 44 area at https://stockconsultant.com/?XMTR
    • INTC Intel stock, nice bounce off the lower 19.12 triple+ support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?INTC
    • Date: 11th February 2025.   Market Update: Tariffs, Inflation, and Investor Sentiment Shape Global Markets.   Asian equities and US stock index futures experienced declines. At the same time, gold surged to a record high, reflecting investor caution following President Donald Trump’s announcement of new tariffs on US imports of steel and aluminium. Stock markets in Hong Kong and mainland China faced selling pressure, contributing to a regional downturn. Futures contracts for the S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, and Euro Stoxx 50 also traded lower. Meanwhile, Japanese markets remained closed due to a public holiday. Gold, often seen as a safe-haven asset duringeconomic uncertainty, extended its rally for a third consecutive session, briefly surpassing $2,942 before paring some gains. The US dollar index maintained its Monday gains, signalling sustained strength amid market volatility. The precious metal has surged about 11% this year, setting successive records as Trump’s disruptive moves on trade and geopolitics reinforce its role as a store of value in uncertain times. US Steel and Metals Sector Reacts to Tariffs Shares of US Steel Corporation surged as much as 6% following Trump’s announcement, as domestic metals producers saw a boost from the prospect of increased business and stronger pricing power. Canada, Brazil, and Mexico, the top steel suppliers to the US, are expected to be significantly impacted by these trade restrictions. Trump stated that the new tariffs, effective in March, aim to revitalize domestic production and job growth. However, he also suggested the possibility of further tariff increases, adding to market uncertainty.     Investor Concerns Over Tariffs and Trade War Escalation Investors are grappling with the implications of Trump’s tariffs, particularly in distinguishing between policy announcements and concrete actions. The uncertainty surrounding additional levies and potential retaliatory measures has reignited fears of an intensifying global trade war. Tariffs on Chinese goods are already in effect, and concerns persist about further economic fallout. According to Christian Mueller-Glissmann, head of asset allocation research at Goldman Sachs, the key challenge in portfolio strategy now lies in identifying assets that can effectively hedge against tariff risks. Speaking to Bloomberg Television, he noted, “The big challenge is that this is going to be much more difficult from here because the tariffs are very specific.” Key Economic Data and Federal Reserve Testimony in Focus Beyond trade tensions, investors are closely watching this week’s critical economic reports and statements from Federal Reserve officials. Fed Chair Jerome Powell is set to testify before Congress, while fresh inflation data will provide further insight into price trends. According to the New York Federal Reserve’s Survey of Consumer Expectations, inflation expectations for both the one-year and three-year outlooks remained steady at 3% in January. Short-term US inflation expectations have now risen above longer-term projections to their widest gap since 2023, signalling potential shifts in monetary policy. Inflation data, Powell’s congressional testimony, and tariffs are poised to drive the market today. A reprieve from negative surprises, such as the impact of DeepSeek, ongoing tariffs, and consumer sentiment concerns, could push S&P 500 to break out of its two-month consolidation.     Currency and Commodity Markets React The currency market also reflected shifting investor sentiment. The Japanese Yen remained largely unchanged. Meanwhile, the British Pound weakened after a report from the Financial Times cited Bank of England policymaker Catherine Mann’s concerns that weakening demand is beginning to outweigh inflationary risks. Gold’s continued ascent has been accompanied by significant inflows into bullion-backed exchange-traded funds. Global holdings have risen in six of the past seven weeks, reaching their highest levels since November. Banks have forecast that gold could test the $3,000 mark, with Citigroup predicting it could hit that level within three months and J.P. Morgan Private Bank projecting a year-end target of $3,150. Market Resilience Amid Trade Uncertainty Despite ongoing tariff tensions, equities have demonstrated resilience, leading some analysts to caution that further trade escalations could trigger renewed market pullbacks. Strategists at Deutsche Bank AG, including Binky Chadha, suggested that historical patterns indicate sharp but short-lived equity selloffs during geopolitical events, with markets typically rebounding before any formal de-escalation occurs. They projected that, in such scenarios, equity markets could decline by 6%-8% over a three-week period before recovering in a similar timeframe. China’s Growing Gold Reserves and Market Influence China’s central bank expanded its gold reserves for the third consecutive month in January, signalling an ongoing commitment to diversifying its holdings despite record-high prices. In addition, China introduced a pilot program allowing 10 major insurers to invest up to 1% of their assets in bullion for the first time. This initiative could translate into as much as 200 billion Yuan ($27.4 billion) in potential gold investments. Key Market Events to Watch This Week Fed Chair Jerome Powell’s semiannual testimony before the Senate Banking Committee today Speeches by Fed officials Beth Hammack, John Williams, and Michelle Bowman today US Consumer Price Index (CPI) report, Wednesday As global markets continue to navigate economic uncertainties, investors remain watchful of trade developments, monetary policy signals, and inflation trends that could shape the financial landscape in the coming weeks.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • KAR Openlane stock breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?KAR
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.