Applying Joe Ross Trading Methods

[Patuca 13]

Do you fish with a Joe Ross Hook on the end of your line, Patuca?

 

 

BlueHorseshoe

no..... can only catch minnows on j ross hooks....:rofl: :rofl:

[bobcollett 10]

no..... can only catch minnows on j ross hooks....:rofl: :rofl:

 

Those are wise words coming from a complete.....I beg your pardon... a GURU.

In the Indian world a Guru is a teacher

In the US a Guru is a person with followers.... Charles Mason. :helloooo:

In Beleze, where our new Guru hangs out,it refers to a fisherman who uses a NET for catching fish. Thats in the tidal pool. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

regards

bobc

[Patuca 13]

Those are wise words coming from a complete.....I beg your pardon... a GURU.

In the Indian world a Guru is a teacher

In the US a Guru is a person with followers.... Charles Mason. :helloooo:

In Beleze, where our new Guru hangs out,it refers to a fisherman who uses a NET for catching fish. Thats in the tidal pool. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

regards

bobc

one minnow once in a great while...then another..then another great while...then another minnow...ad naseum...

 

I cannot be a guru...i have no followers...i sell no systems for ES...i am not a good teacher..at least no one on this forum seems to think i am.. In addition, i am presently stuck at the COMPLETE IDIOT level per zdo and TW and there is no telling when i will break free from this level...therefore, i cannot be a guru...

[Patuca 13]

My powers of observation must be waning..i see i have made the guru level after all..i was hoping for master trader..is that next?

 

Patuca

 

PS Could i do like a trifecta prediction and skip to the wizzard level?

[handle 10]

Thank you all for your comments. I am moving this Trader Log to another forum. Those of you truly interested in following my log, please send me a message.

 

Thank you again.

 

Tony

[handle 10]

..............are you Joe Ross?

 

tradingwizzard,

 

No I am not. I am a student of Joe Ross and apply his methods to my trading. I started this thread to show the trades I take using these methods.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

[tradingwizzard 10]

Thank you all for your comments. I am moving this Trader Log to another forum. Those of you truly interested in following my log, please send me a message.

 

Thank you again.

 

Tony

 

Good luck on your venture handle...

[BlueHorseshoe 10]

BlueHorseshoe,

 

I am sure if you are interested in a tick chart, you are welcome to post one here if you like. I use a bar chart so that is what I post. Keeping it simple...

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

 

Hi Handle,

 

Possibly you misunderstood my intention . . . I realise that you trade from a five minute chart. But you are using limit orders - what I am interested in understanding is exactly how you obtain fills on these orders - marking one of your entries (from your 5min analysis) onto a single tick chart (or even a 1 min chart) would help to give some idea of this.

 

Or, you could describe what you do.

 

You get an entry signal - now what do you do to get a limit order filled?

 

BlueHorseshoe

[MidKnight 12]

Poor guy. Starts a journal to keep himself honest. Gets jeered by Bobc and Patuca. The whole time the original poster stays extremely polite about it. Finally gets sick of it and leaves. This forum has become more like ET over my absence since soultrader left...real shame.

[Patuca 13]

Thank you all for your comments. I am moving this Trader Log to another forum. Those of you truly interested in following my log, please send me a message.

 

Thank you again.

 

Tony

handle you are owed an apology by me Patuca. I can't speak for capt Bob. I apologize for my behaviour... I don't really understand what is the reason for your posts. I know you said for yourself..discipline or something of that nature but may i ask is there any benefit to the readers of your posts?

 

I admit i was sort of well jeering..but hey i do that all time...nothing personal with you...i as a scalper certainly do not laugh at 10 ticks profit. I traded 10 lots today for less ticks than that...

 

I actually thought you were doing quite good..win rate and all...so before you leave i apologize...that is all can do....good luck with J Ross tactics.. I have respect for mr ross...and i wish you the best.

 

See, i am my biggest problem..you and your big mouth Patuca...such an idiot..

 

 

 

Patuca

 

PS i also talk to myself...

[bobcollett 10]

Poor guy. Starts a journal to keep himself honest. Gets jeered by Bobc and Patuca. The whole time the original poster stays extremely polite about it. Finally gets sick of it and leaves. This forum has become more like ET over my absence since soultrader left...real shame.

 

Hi Midnight

Have you studied Joe Ross methods?

I have

The reason I was jeering was because I felt handle was not using JR methods .

He was making it up.His entry points did not make sense.

His very first post shows selling on a 5 min chart and then holding overnight for a 10 tick profit. JR would never do that.

And when I offered to swap methods , he declined.

And then he stated he bought at the open, which did not tie up with the arrows.

And when Mr. Horseshoes asked for a tick chart,he was dead in the water.

So before moralizing about TL, go and study all the posts carefully.

Better still , show us handles method.

regards

bobc

[MidKnight 12]

Hi Midnight

Have you studied Joe Ross methods?

I have

The reason I was jeering was because I felt handle was not using JR methods .

He was making it up.His entry points did not make sense.

His very first post shows selling on a 5 min chart and then holding overnight for a 10 tick profit. JR would never do that.

And when I offered to swap methods , he declined.

And then he stated he bought at the open, which did not tie up with the arrows.

And when Mr. Horseshoes asked for a tick chart,he was dead in the water.

So before moralizing about TL, go and study all the posts carefully.

Better still , show us handles method.

regards

bobc

 

Who cares if his methods do not fit your understanding of JR methods - its his log for his benefit - not yours. And since you have never undertaken JRs private tuition who are you to say this isn't how JR trades today.

 

Regarding his first post holding any trades overnight - it is you who should study carefully.

[Patuca 13]

Who cares if his methods do not fit your understanding of JR methods - its his log for his benefit - not yours. And since you have never undertaken JRs private tuition who are you to say this isn't how JR trades today.

 

Regarding his first post holding any trades overnight - it is you who should study carefully.

Then why post it here..to show off his ability to trade? Posting once in a while..."I placed a trade and made 10 ticks" with no description why or how isn't helping anyone on the forum..now is it?

 

There was no real substance to his posts. Of course we all post things from time to time with no substance but continual worthless posts does no one any good.

 

I did maybe sort of jeer..so did capt bob but not even that would incite him to post some other than basically: took a trade...made 10 ticks.

 

Instead he gets offended...and takes off like speedy gonzales in a huff...never to return.

 

He could have just written his log on a yellow legal pad at home and served the same purpose. If he don't want public probing of his methods then don't show up on a public forum.

 

I did apologize for my sort of jeering but come on he needs to face reality...some things did not square up and he was busted..

 

"If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen"....may apply here..

 

Probally nobody takes more jeering than Patuca on this forum and i am still around. I even jeer at myself..

 

Good luck handle...and again i apologize for well, sort of jeering...i'm am sure you will peek back in to see what is being said since your grandiose departure...:rofl: :rofl:

 

 

Handle you may jeer at me all you like as i do a series of taylor trades on the beyond taylor thread.. it will probally be a fiasco so you can find something to jeer about ...I am sure...

[steve46 12]

Have to agree with Midnight....I do know something of Joe Ross and his method....the trades look right and of course its not his aim to teach others.

 

The fact that some folks find it objectionable is, unfortunately a fact of life here at TL...the idea that Handle's posts should help others is irrelevant....the gentleman was trying to construct a record of his trades that HE could make use of....and if in the process others saw benefit, well then all the better..

 

As with many threads here at TL, the primary opportunity is to see that A.) Success is possible, that B) Information about Joe's method is publicly available and C) one can then take the time to exercise reasonable due diligence.

 

I understand Patuca's problem....he was kicked in the head by a horse and has never recovered....as for Bob.....apparently his strategy is more advanced...first he insinuates that the posts don't reflect Joe's teaching....when that doesn't work, "the posts are immoral"....and finally immoral or not, all is forgiven if only Handle will share his system.....and the "carrot" ....Bob's magic gold trading system....one is reminded of seeing a small child having a tantrum in front of a toy rack......I for one will smile and move on....so I'm sure will most other folks....

Edited September 7, 2013 by steve46

[bobcollett 10]

"Midnight, one more night without sleeping.

watching...., till the morning comes creeping,

Green door,whats thats secret that you keeping?

Theres an old piano....."

bobc

[Patuca 13]

Have to agree with Midnight....I do know something of Joe Ross and his method....the trades look right and of course its not his aim to teach others.

 

The fact that some folks find it objectionable is, unfortunately a fact of life here at TL...the idea that Handle's posts should help others is irrelevant....the gentleman was trying to construct a record of his trades that HE could make use of....and if in the process others saw benefit, well then all the better..

 

As with many threads here at TL, the primary opportunity is to see that A.) Success is possible, that B) Information about Joe's method is publicly available and C) one can then take the time to exercise reasonable due diligence.

 

I understand Patuca's problem....he was kicked in the head by a horse and has never recovered....as for Bob.....apparently his strategy is more advanced...first he insinuates that the posts don't reflect Joe's teaching....when that doesn't work, "the posts are immoral"....and finally immoral or not, all is forgiven if only Handle will share his system.....and the "carrot" ....Bob's magic gold trading system....one is reminded of seeing a small child having a tantrum in front of a toy rack......I for one will smile and move on....so I'm sure will most other folks....

EOD...he may have been aiming for a big Golden C under his name. Not saying he was..just a guess that may or may not be true. See if he could present a 90% win rate in public the litte fishing worms would come out of their holes in the ground private mail him and he might could take them fishing. They, of course, would be the bait and he the fisherman. Guess who would eating the fish?

 

Yep ....that horse kick knocked some horse sense into my brain...

 

Funny how the Golden C boys stick together..."birds of a feather stick together" i once read somewhere that mr ross said people don't appreciate things when they are free...or something of that nature....so he charges what 1500 day (don't remember for sure his charge ) for talking to you with his sandpaper voice (i guess he can't help that though)...

 

Nevertheless, mr Ross probally does have a profitable system...i have heard mostly good things about him.

 

Why don't you just donate your system (with a pay if it works). If it works i am sure folks will be happy to thank you and pay you.

 

I once developed a system and gave it to people and told them to pay me x amount if it worked for them and nothing if it didn't. Guess what, no one refused to pay me that it worked for. I never was cheated. Not a single time...

 

Ya'll come on over to the beyond taylor thread where i will put my ego...neck....whatever...on the line...ya'll can jeer..cheer...praise...my efforts or jest laugh your noggin off...don't forget to bring your chewing bacca and spi can.

Edited September 7, 2013 by Patuca

[RickW00716 10]

I had taken a 3 day private tutoring session with Joe Ross in 2011. Up until that time, I was struggling as a trader. After taking the private session with Joe, I have started to make money trading.

 

While I am not able to share the methods that Joe Ross taught me, I would like to share my trading log with you in order to keep myself focused and disciplined.

 

I would appreciate any discussion, comments, or questions that you may have. I am continually humbled by the markets on my path to becoming a more profitable trader.

 

Thank you.

 

Do you daytrade? I was looking at possibly purchasing Joes book on daytrading the E-mini.

 

Would you be able to recommend it?

 

Thank you

[bobcollett 10]

Who cares if his methods do not fit your understanding of JR methods - its his log for his benefit - not yours. And since you have never undertaken JRs private tuition who are you to say this isn't how JR trades today.

 

Regarding his first post holding any trades overnight - it is you who should study carefully.

 

Hi Midnight

You are correct regarding the first post.

Its a 5 min chart.NOT a daily chart as I misread it.

I am sorry .

regards

bobc

[handle 10]

Hi Midnight

Have you studied Joe Ross methods?

I have

The reason I was jeering was because I felt handle was not using JR methods .

He was making it up.His entry points did not make sense.

His very first post shows selling on a 5 min chart and then holding overnight for a 10 tick profit. JR would never do that.

And when I offered to swap methods , he declined.

And then he stated he bought at the open, which did not tie up with the arrows.

And when Mr. Horseshoes asked for a tick chart,he was dead in the water.

So before moralizing about TL, go and study all the posts carefully.

Better still , show us handles method.

regards

bobc

 

bobc,

 

I am using the methods taught to me by Joe Ross. I am not making anything up.

 

You are mistaken. The first post was a sell on a 5 min chart but it was not held overnight. In fact, the exit was less than 5 minutes. Please double check the chart, I was in at 9:16 AM (PST) and out at 9:20 AM (PST) the same day. This is not a daily chart. It is a 5 min chart. Therefore, each bar is 5 minutes; not one day.

 

Also, I do not enter at the open of the bar, I place my resting order at the open of the new bar. The market then comes to me and either fills me or doesn't. I am not buying or selling the open price. In fact, to get filled at 9:16 AM (PST) on a 5 min chart would, by definition, mean I did not trade the open price.

 

With regard to Mr. Horseshoes, I will post the tick chart with my fill in another post. Nobody is dead in the water, bob.

 

Maybe if you spent more of your time being constructive, you would be a better trader.

 

Take care...

 

Tony

[handle 10]

Who cares if his methods do not fit your understanding of JR methods - its his log for his benefit - not yours. And since you have never undertaken JRs private tuition who are you to say this isn't how JR trades today.

 

Regarding his first post holding any trades overnight - it is you who should study carefully.

 

MidKnight,

 

Thank you for your posts. I am not sure what bobc was looking at. But a 4 min trade is not an overnight trade. Hopefully, he doesn't trade with real money... Or better yet, bobc can be on the opposite side of my trades anytime. :haha:

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

Edited September 9, 2013 by handle

[handle 10]

Then why post it here..to show off his ability to trade? Posting once in a while..."I placed a trade and made 10 ticks" with no description why or how isn't helping anyone on the forum..now is it?

 

There was no real substance to his posts. Of course we all post things from time to time with no substance but continual worthless posts does no one any good.

 

I did maybe sort of jeer..so did capt bob but not even that would incite him to post some other than basically: took a trade...made 10 ticks.

 

Instead he gets offended...and takes off like speedy gonzales in a huff...never to return.

 

He could have just written his log on a yellow legal pad at home and served the same purpose. If he don't want public probing of his methods then don't show up on a public forum.

 

I did apologize for my sort of jeering but come on he needs to face reality...some things did not square up and he was busted..

 

"If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen"....may apply here..

 

Probally nobody takes more jeering than Patuca on this forum and i am still around. I even jeer at myself..

 

Good luck handle...and again i apologize for well, sort of jeering...i'm am sure you will peek back in to see what is being said since your grandiose departure...:rofl: :rofl:

 

 

Handle you may jeer at me all you like as i do a series of taylor trades on the beyond taylor thread.. it will probally be a fiasco so you can find something to jeer about ...I am sure...

 

Patuca,

 

The heat in this kitchen is not hot. However, the purpose of this thread was to keep myself disciplined and focused as well as invite constructive discussion and comments. I have found another forum that suits my goals as this forum has not.

 

I thought that Trader's Laboratory was a good place for traders to complement each other, not ridicule each other. The market is hard enough on us traders, we don't need more negativity from each other.

 

Tony

[handle 10]

EOD...he may have been aiming for a big Golden C under his name. Not saying he was..just a guess that may or may not be true. See if he could present a 90% win rate in public the litte fishing worms would come out of their holes in the ground private mail him and he might could take them fishing. They, of course, would be the bait and he the fisherman. Guess who would eating the fish?

 

Yep ....that horse kick knocked some horse sense into my brain...

 

Funny how the Golden C boys stick together..."birds of a feather stick together" i once read somewhere that mr ross said people don't appreciate things when they are free...or something of that nature....so he charges what 1500 day (don't remember for sure his charge ) for talking to you with his sandpaper voice (i guess he can't help that though)...

 

Nevertheless, mr Ross probally does have a profitable system...i have heard mostly good things about him.

 

 

Why don't you just donate your system (with a pay if it works). If it works i am sure folks will be happy to thank you and pay you.

 

I once developed a system and gave it to people and told them to pay me x amount if it worked for them and nothing if it didn't. Guess what, no one refused to pay me that it worked for. I never was cheated. Not a single time...

 

Ya'll come on over to the beyond taylor thread where i will put my ego...neck....whatever...on the line...ya'll can jeer..cheer...praise...my efforts or jest laugh your noggin off...don't forget to bring your chewing bacca and spi can.

 

Patuca,

 

It is not my method to donate. It is Joe Ross's. Also, I am not in the teaching business. I will leave that to gurus such as yourself.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

[handle 10]

Good luck on your venture handle...

 

tradingwizzard,

 

Thank you. I was looking for an environment that people don't insult one another, make wise remarks, and otherwise act as idiots. Trading is a tough business. A trading forum shouldn't make it tougher. IMHO

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

[handle 10]

Hi Handle,

 

Possibly you misunderstood my intention . . . I realise that you trade from a five minute chart. But you are using limit orders - what I am interested in understanding is exactly how you obtain fills on these orders - marking one of your entries (from your 5min analysis) onto a single tick chart (or even a 1 min chart) would help to give some idea of this.

 

Or, you could describe what you do.

 

You get an entry signal - now what do you do to get a limit order filled?

 

BlueHorseshoe

 

BlueHorseshoe,

 

Attached is the tick chart you wanted to see. I wait for the bar to close and then I place a limit order in my DOM. When placing this resting order at the open of the next bar, my order sits on the DOM until price hits my entry. I am then filled or not. If I am filled, then I am in the trade. Since I use a limit order instead of a market order, there is no slippage.

 

 

As you can see, I was filled at 106.13 which was 7 seconds after the open of that 5 minute bar that you saw in the other chart. On this trade, I traded a 10 lot. The red arrows are my short contracts at 106.13. Looks like price went against me initially and then proceeded to hit my target at 106.03 for +10 ticks.

 

I hope that answers any questions you might have.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

[Patuca 13]

Patuca,

 

It is not my method to donate. It is Joe Ross's. Also, I am not in the teaching business. I will leave that to gurus such as yourself.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

LOL...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: anyway was not refering to you..but i have not seen mr ross donate his methodolgy..maybe a few things.?.....