Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

  • Welcome Guests

    Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at Traders Laboratory such as interacting with members, access to all forums, downloading attachments, and eligibility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE Traders Laboratory account here.

handle

Applying Joe Ross Trading Methods

Recommended Posts

Handle,

With those scalps how can you go two days without any setups? doesn't mr joseph have more than one setup? you mean you sat there all day for two complete days looking for one setup? if so, you best make haste and load the boat when you do find a setup.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Handle,

With those scalps how can you go two days without any setups? doesn't mr joseph have more than one setup? you mean you sat there all day for two complete days looking for one setup? if so, you best make haste and load the boat when you do find a setup.

 

Patuca,

 

I am just posting my trading log. I did sit there for 2 days without a setup. And I do try to load the boat when I see a setup.

 

I am open to suggestions, and if I missed a setup that I should have taken, then I would like to know that too. I am constantly trying to become a better trader.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Patuca,

 

I am just posting my trading log. I did sit there for 2 days without a setup. And I do try to load the boat when I see a setup.

 

I am open to suggestions, and if I missed a setup that I should have taken, then I would like to know that too. I am constantly trying to become a better trader.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

Tony

Could you post the same chart but 5 min and in candlesticks .....lblack for bearish sticks and hollow white for bullish? Thanks.

 

I net scalped 4.5 points out of ES today and 6.25 out of the NQ and i missed much of the best scalping opportunities as i was traveling and it isn't a good idea to trade and drive at the same time. So, i had to trade when i wasn't driving and missed the best swing (two legs or more) scalps which would have given even many more points. I made 8 trades 6 winners two losers...i could not imagine no scalps for two days. I suppose you are looking for just ONE particular setup? Or is it more than one? I look for several. However,..so far you have 4 winners and no losers so i can't argue with that...just saying it would bore me in a terrible way to not take even one scalp over a two day period.

 

Patuca

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Trading is a business rampant with failure. HOWEVER, EVERY FAILURE BRINGS A TRADER CLOSER TO SUCCESS. If he can learn from it.

 

or closer to total ruin even if he learns from it unless he learns faster than he fails.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
or closer to total ruin even if he learns from it unless he learns faster than he fails.
obvious. Agree. ...time ....money...learning..failure...success..shades of gann..the symmetry of success...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How do you control your failures? Or can you even do such a thing? Maybe not.. but there is a measure of control on the damage your failures can inflict on you. So..how do you control the damage that can be done through your failures while you learn success?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tony

Could you post the same chart but 5 min and in candlesticks .....lblack for bearish sticks and hollow white for bullish? Thanks.

 

I net scalped 4.5 points out of ES today and 6.25 out of the NQ and i missed much of the best scalping opportunities as i was traveling and it isn't a good idea to trade and drive at the same time. So, i had to trade when i wasn't driving and missed the best swing (two legs or more) scalps which would have given even many more points. I made 8 trades 6 winners two losers...i could not imagine no scalps for two days. I suppose you are looking for just ONE particular setup? Or is it more than one? I look for several. However,..so far you have 4 winners and no losers so i can't argue with that...just saying it would bore me in a terrible way to not take even one scalp over a two day period.

 

Patuca

 

Patuca,

 

I use a bar chart for trading Joe Ross's methods. He taught me with this type of chart so that is what I use.

 

Those are great trading results. Do you post your trading log somewhere on this site? I would like to see your trading. I don't really have a good strategy for the ES. I am following FT71 and eminitrader. They both use a Market Profile approach. Both seem to have similar success as you in the ES.

 

Thank you for your comments.

Tony

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Patuca,

 

I use a bar chart for trading Joe Ross's methods. He taught me with this type of chart so that is what I use.

 

Those are great trading results. Do you post your trading log somewhere on this site? I would like to see your trading. I don't really have a good strategy for the ES. I am following FT71 and eminitrader. They both use a Market Profile approach. Both seem to have similar success as you in the ES.

 

Thank you for your comments.

Tony

I don't log..journal..or any of that stuff...just never have like doing it...however, if i am in the mood i will make live annotations on my trading chart. Here is one for today in the ES with more notes than i would usually put on it but for explanations sake i add more. This is ONE technique i use for scalping. I look for possible trend reversals and try to get at least 1 leg of profits but more if possible. Try to keep reward to risk at least 1:1 perferably 2:1. I manage trade by initial stop loss and actual stop loss. That is i am willing to exit if my actual stop loss gives me at least a 1:1 and a positive traders equation. That way mathematically i know i am ahead of the game. In other words, say my initial SL was 2 points and my initial profit target at least 3 pts. . If my actual risk ends up being only 1 pt then i am will to exit at a 1 point profit if price action after entry is lazy..slow...terrible. In slow markets i take what it will give me not what i necessarily want. But i do strive to keep my R:R ratio good and my traders equation positive.

 

Some notes about chart:

 

Horizontal brown heavy lines are support and resistance off 15 minute chart and of course high and low of previous day. Green line is an 20 ema. Blue line is same 20 ema but where the 20 ema would be on a 15 minute chart. Pink looking line is same 20 ema but where it would be on a 30 min chart and purple line is where it would be on a 1 hour chart. This just saves me from flipping back and forth between charts to see where price is in relation to each time period in terms of a 20 ema.

 

The gray line is a sma 89 basically it indicates the general trend of the day and normally it is best to get in shorting mode when price is below both the green line and the gray line. Generally you like to see the green line below the gray and price below both. When like this i focus on short side mostly. Not to say i wouldn't take an occasional long scalp but i wouldn't follow it too far.

 

For trades on the long side you want price on top..then green line..then gray line. That is, one focuses on long techniques. Again..that is not to say you can't short but you just know you can't follow it too far unless things change.

 

Todays trade was a short taken in the "long mode" therefore, i didn't want to follow it too far. It took about 13 bars to get to the exit and had one pullback that almost stopped me out. Nevertheless, i was able to scalp 2 pts and keep a decent R:R ratio and a positive traders equation. When shorting in a long mode just grab what market gives you or yo can easily end up giving it back.

 

Red..pinkish square is initial stop loss. Blue is entry. Brown square is exit.

 

The pink looking channel and wedge lines are self explanatory.

 

Maybe this will be interesting to someone ...if not just throw it in your delete pile :rofl: :rofl:

image.jpg.d25d896c87aa2fb7d2691d6cb5c50d7c.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi WHY?

I missed you ;) (my partners not happy with this :rofl::rofl:)

And your'e on the wrong thread.

And perhaps you were rolling over in your grave from the TTT comments.

Anyway,welcome back.And may all your goats turn into beautiful baby lambs.

kind regards

bobc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Steve,

 

Thank you for your reply. I can attest that having a mentor is very important especially if someone is struggling. I paid a few thousand dollars for a private session. Paying for someone's time runs on the more expensive side, but will save you money in the long run.

 

Thanx Handle

 

Its good of you to disclose your (ballpark) budget for education...I am often asked about this....and I tell folks that paying for a skilled trader's time is expensive, but worth it IF you can find the right person...yes there's always the risk, but that's the nature of this business....no risk...no reward.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trade:

Contract: CL

Entry Signal: Short

Entry Price: 106.52 (red triangle) No Fill

Exit Price: No fill

Entry Time: 9:40 CST

Ticks: 0

 

The market ran right through my entry. I was not filled. Pulled the order. Obviously the right move but without me.

 

mls0.jpg

 

Trade Results: 4 Trades. 4 Wins / 0 Losses. Ratio: 100%. Ticks: +40

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trade:

Contract: CL

Entry Signal: Long

Entry Price: 107.00 (green triangle)

Exit Price: 107.10 (red triangle) Target

Entry Time: 9:34 CST

Ticks: +10

 

jebl.jpg

 

Trade Results: 5 Trades. 5 Wins / 0 Losses. Ratio: 100%. Ticks: +50

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Trade:

Contract: CL

Entry Signal: Long

Entry Price: 107.00 (green triangle)

Exit Price: 107.10 (red triangle) Target

Entry Time: 9:34 CST

Ticks: +10

 

jebl.jpg

 

Trade Results: 5 Trades. 5 Wins / 0 Losses. Ratio: 100%. Ticks: +50

 

Hi handle

TRIPLE RUBBISH

regards

bobc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi handle

TRIPLE RUBBISH

regards

bobc

 

Hi Bob,

 

I am not sure why you keep posting "RUBBISH" on this thread. Please explain yourself and be constructive.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi handle

I dont believe Joe Ross taught you to trade with the method you display.

Joe lived in South Aftica , a while back, and I had dealings with a forcasting sevice he offered.

My golf game on Saturday is cancelled . Maybe I will tell the correct version

I noticed WHY ? on the thread .

He is an excellent writer, so I was hoping he would tell the true story.

regards

bobc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi handle

I dont believe Joe Ross taught you to trade with the method you display.

Joe lived in South Aftica , a while back, and I had dealings with a forcasting sevice he offered.

My golf game on Saturday is cancelled . Maybe I will tell the correct version

I noticed WHY ? on the thread .

He is an excellent writer, so I was hoping he would tell the true story.

regards

bobc

 

Hi bobc,

 

I am sorry to hear about your golf game being cancelled. However, I did meet Joe Ross in Texas in 2011 and he spent 3 days teaching me how to trade his methods. What you see here is my trading log of the trades I take with real money.

 

He teaches 5 setups and I only use 3 of them.

 

I am not sure of his forecasting service. He did not mention that during our time together.

 

Did you or WHY ever learn Joe's setups? Did you ever take any private training with him?

 

Anyway, maybe you can get a tee time on Sunday...

 

Thank you.

 

handle

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi Bob,

 

I am not sure why you keep posting "RUBBISH" on this thread. Please explain yourself and be constructive.

 

Thank you.

 

Tony

perhaps capt bob has has three losing trades in a row and hence is on a triple whammy bad mood...you may need to cut him some slack?...just a thought....you have 5 winners in a row..just many days waiting for them....i prefer to have that many or more in one day......capt maybe a golfing fanatic and could still be pissed about missing the game to see mr joseph...please understand...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
No setups today. No trades.

 

Trade Results: 5 Trades. 5 Wins / 0 Losses. Ratio: 100%. Ticks: +50

you must have the patience of Job. I don't think i could stand that...so many days and no trades..i made 6 today..5 winners and 1 loser..all positive traders equation...all at least 1:1 rr and one that was 10:1 rr. It is hard for me to see how mr ross's setup did not appear at all today in the type of PA we had today. Did you happen to miss some?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Handle,

I did a bit of a search .

There is lots of info on Joe Ross Methods on TL, so I not going to repeat it.

When you went on your course, did you learn the AMBUSH method.?

kind regards

bobc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Date: 3rd April 2025.   Gold Prices Pull Back After Record High as Traders Eye Trump’s Tariffs.   Key Takeaways:   Gold prices retreated after hitting a record high of $3,167.57 per ounce due to profit-taking. President Trump announced a 10% baseline tariff on all US imports, escalating trade tensions. Gold remains exempt from reciprocal tariffs, reinforcing its safe-haven appeal. Investors await US non-farm payroll data for further market direction. Fed rate cut bets and weaker US Treasury yields underpin gold’s bullish outlook. Gold Prices Retreat from Record Highs Amid Profit-Taking Gold prices saw a pullback on Thursday as traders opted to take profits following a historic surge. Spot gold declined 0.4% to $3,122.10 per ounce as of 0710 GMT, retreating from its fresh all-time high of $3,167.57. Meanwhile, US gold futures slipped 0.7% to $3,145.00 per ounce, reflecting broader market uncertainty over economic and geopolitical developments.   The recent rally was largely fueled by concerns over escalating trade tensions after President Donald Trump unveiled sweeping new import tariffs. The 10% baseline tariff on all goods entering the US further deepened the global trade conflict, intensifying investor demand for safe-haven assets like gold. However, as traders locked in gains from the surge, prices saw a modest retracement.   Trump’s Tariffs and Their Market Implications On Wednesday, Trump introduced a sweeping tariff policy imposing a 10% baseline duty on all imports, with significantly higher tariffs on select nations. While this move was aimed at bolstering domestic manufacturing, it sent shockwaves across global markets, fueling inflation concerns and heightening trade war fears.   Gold’s Role Amid Trade War Escalations Despite the widespread tariff measures, the White House clarified that reciprocal tariffs do not apply to gold, energy, and ‘certain minerals that are not available in the US’. This exemption suggests that central banks and institutional investors may continue favouring gold as a hedge against economic instability. One of the key factors supporting gold is the slowdown that these tariffs could cause in the US economy, which raises the likelihood of future Federal Reserve rate cuts. Gold is currently in a pure momentum trade. Market participants are on the sidelines and until we see a significant shakeout, this momentum could persist.   Impact on the US Dollar and Bond Yields Gold prices typically move inversely to the US dollar, and the latest developments have pushed the dollar to its weakest level since October 2024. Market participants are increasingly pricing in the possibility of a Fed rate cut, as the tariffs could weigh on economic growth.   Additionally, US Treasury yields have plummeted, reflecting growing recession fears. Lower bond yields reduce the opportunity cost of holding non-yielding assets like gold, making it a more attractive investment.         Technical Analysis: Key Levels to Watch Gold’s recent rally has pushed it into overbought territory, with the Relative Strength Index (RSI) above 70. This indicates a potential short-term pullback before the uptrend resumes. The immediate support level lies at $3,115, aligning with the Asian session low. A further decline could bring gold towards the $3,100 psychological level, which has previously acted as a strong support zone. Below this, the $3,076–$3,057 region represents a critical weekly support range where buyers may re-enter the market. In the event of a more significant correction, $3,000 stands as a major psychological floor.   On the upside, gold faces immediate resistance at $3,149. A break above this level could signal renewed bullish momentum, potentially leading to a retest of the record high at $3,167. If bullish momentum persists, the next target is the $3,200 psychological barrier, which could pave the way for further gains. Despite the recent pullback, the broader trend remains bullish, with dips likely to be viewed as buying opportunities.   Looking Ahead: Non-Farm Payrolls and Fed Policy Traders are closely monitoring Friday’s US non-farm payrolls (NFP) report, which could provide critical insights into the Federal Reserve’s next policy moves. A weaker-than-expected jobs report may strengthen expectations for an interest rate cut, further boosting gold prices.   Other key economic data releases, such as jobless claims and the ISM Services PMI, may also impact market sentiment in the short term. However, with rising geopolitical uncertainties, trade tensions, and a weakening US dollar, gold’s safe-haven appeal remains strong.   Conclusion: While short-term profit-taking may trigger minor corrections, gold’s long-term outlook remains bullish. As global trade tensions mount and the Federal Reserve leans toward a more accommodative stance, gold could see further gains in the months ahead.   Always trade with strict risk management. Your capital is the single most important aspect of your trading business.   Please note that times displayed based on local time zone and are from time of writing this report.   Click HERE to access the full HFM Economic calendar.   Want to learn to trade and analyse the markets? Join our webinars and get analysis and trading ideas combined with better understanding of how markets work. Click HERE to register for FREE!   Click HERE to READ more Market news.   Andria Pichidi HFMarkets   Disclaimer: This material is provided as a general marketing communication for information purposes only and does not constitute an independent investment research. Nothing in this communication contains, or should be considered as containing, an investment advice or an investment recommendation or a solicitation for the purpose of buying or selling of any financial instrument. All information provided is gathered from reputable sources and any information containing an indication of past performance is not a guarantee or reliable indicator of future performance. Users acknowledge that any investment in Leveraged Products is characterized by a certain degree of uncertainty and that any investment of this nature involves a high level of risk for which the users are solely responsible and liable. We assume no liability for any loss arising from any investment made based on the information provided in this communication. This communication must not be reproduced or further distributed without our prior written permission.
    • AMZN Amazon stock, nice buying at the 187.26 triple+ support area at https://stockconsultant.com/?AMZN
    • DELL Dell Technologies stock, good day moving higher off the 90.99 double support area, from Stocks to Watch at https://stockconsultant.com/?DELL
    • MCK Mckesson stock, nice trend and continuation breakout at https://stockconsultant.com/?MCK
    • lmfx just officially launched their own LMGX token, Im planning to grab a couple of hundred and maybe have the option to stake them. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.