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Many who trade the breakthrough strategy would better understand is break real or false. If you see in advance false break, you can’t open a position, or play in the opposite direction. The volume can show how the breakthrough may be present. The point is very simple. Extra volumes at the level of the break significantly increase the likelihood of truthful breakthrough. Consider these examples:
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Probably not until you feel the pointlessness of working with indicators by yourself, you will not be able to refuse them. However, for a person who recently came to the stock exchange, indicators can help to understand one important thing, namely, to understand the meaning of systematic trading. System trading is the key to success, because you learn to act consistently (because in certain circumstances you do certain actions). But why do indicators not work? Why are they often being delayed and output after the market went in our direction? Why can the value of the indicator stay in overbought or oversold zone for quite a long time? In order to understand all this, you need to understand how to calculate the indicator. Here's a diagram that should completely change your whole idea about the market and about the indicators, respectively. Will -> Volume -> Price -> Indicator 1. The indicator is derived from the price. 2. The price is derived from volume. 3. The volume is derived from the will. I.e. the values are quoted in this latest link. This formula, which just converts the current value of the market price. I think now it becomes clear why working with indicators does not bear in itself any sense. Partly, even working with the schedule of prices will be difficult for the trader because he will not understand how the price has appeared. What is this "will"? Will is interest in the open position (either long or short). The will appears any market participant, at any time, at any price. It is clear that traders with small volumes are not able to manage the market. That is why you should enter the market only when a big player starts to operate. We cannot penetrate into his head and find out what he's going to do (this is insider information). But, often, there's no need, because all his desires are immediately reflected in the indicators of volume. So we can see when a big player opens their stance, and this, in turn, gives us the opportunity to make transactions with a higher likelihood of a positive outcome. Our operations begin to acquire some meaning.
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Probably not until you feel the pointlessness of working with indicators by yourself, you will not be able to refuse them. However, for a person who recently came to the stock exchange, indicators can help to understand one important thing, namely, to understand the meaning of systematic trading. System trading is the key to success, because you learn to act consistently (because in certain circumstances you do certain actions). But why do indicators not work? Why are they often being delayed and output after the market went in our direction? Why can the value of the indicator stay in overbought or oversold zone for quite a long time? In order to understand all this, you need to understand how to calculate the indicator. Here's a diagram that should completely change your whole idea about the market and about the indicators, respectively. Will -> Volume -> Price -> Indicator 1. The indicator is derived from the price. 2. The price is derived from volume. 3. The volume is derived from the will. I.e. the values are quoted in this latest link. This formula, which just converts the current value of the market price. I think now it becomes clear why working with indicators does not bear in itself any sense. Partly, even working with the schedule of prices will be difficult for the trader because he will not understand how the price has appeared. What is this "will"? Will is interest in the open position (either long or short). The will appears any market participant, at any time, at any price. It is clear that traders with small volumes are not able to manage the market. That is why you should enter the market only when a big player starts to operate. We cannot penetrate into his head and find out what he's going to do (this is insider information). But, often, there's no need, because all his desires are immediately reflected in the indicators of volume. So we can see when a big player opens their stance, and this, in turn, gives us the opportunity to make transactions with a higher likelihood of a positive outcome. Our operations begin to acquire some meaning.
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Probably not until you feel the pointlessness of working with indicators by yourself, you will not be able to refuse them. However, for a person who recently came to the stock exchange, indicators can help to understand one important thing, namely, to understand the meaning of systematic trading. System trading is the key to success, because you learn to act consistently (because in certain circumstances you do certain actions). But why do indicators not work? Why are they often being delayed and output after the market went in our direction? Why can the value of the indicator stay in overbought or oversold zone for quite a long time? In order to understand all this, you need to understand how to calculate the indicator. Here's a diagram that should completely change your whole idea about the market and about the indicators, respectively. Will -> Volume -> Price -> Indicator 1. The indicator is derived from the price. 2. The price is derived from volume. 3. The volume is derived from the will. I.e. the values are quoted in this latest link. This formula, which just converts the current value of the market price. I think now it becomes clear why working with indicators does not bear in itself any sense. Partly, even working with the schedule of prices will be difficult for the trader because he will not understand how the price has appeared. What is this "will"? Will is interest in the open position (either long or short). The will appears any market participant, at any time, at any price. It is clear that traders with small volumes are not able to manage the market. That is why you should enter the market only when a big player starts to operate. We cannot penetrate into his head and find out what he's going to do (this is insider information). But, often, there's no need, because all his desires are immediately reflected in the indicators of volume. So we can see when a big player opens their stance, and this, in turn, gives us the opportunity to make transactions with a higher likelihood of a positive outcome. Our operations begin to acquire some meaning.
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Probably not until you feel the pointlessness of working with indicators by yourself, you will not be able to refuse them. However, for a person who recently came to the stock exchange, indicators can help to understand one important thing, namely, to understand the meaning of systematic trading. System trading is the key to success, because you learn to act consistently (because in certain circumstances you do certain actions). But why do indicators not work? Why are they often being delayed and output after the market went in our direction? Why can the value of the indicator stay in overbought or oversold zone for quite a long time? In order to understand all this, you need to understand how to calculate the indicator. Here's a diagram that should completely change your whole idea about the market and about the indicators, respectively. Will -> Volume -> Price -> Indicator 1. The indicator is derived from the price. 2. The price is derived from volume. 3. The volume is derived from the will. I.e. the values are quoted in this latest link. This formula, which just converts the current value of the market price. I think now it becomes clear why working with indicators does not bear in itself any sense. Partly, even working with the schedule of prices will be difficult for the trader because he will not understand how the price has appeared. What is this "will"? Will is interest in the open position (either long or short). The will appears any market participant, at any time, at any price. It is clear that traders with small volumes are not able to manage the market. That is why you should enter the market only when a big player starts to operate. We cannot penetrate into his head and find out what he's going to do (this is insider information). But, often, there's no need, because all his desires are immediately reflected in the indicators of volume. So we can see when a big player opens their stance, and this, in turn, gives us the opportunity to make transactions with a higher likelihood of a positive outcome. Our operations begin to acquire some meaning.
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The greater the volume, the greater the interest of market participants to this level, because the volume - the number of contracts (or shares) which have passed from hand to hand over a certain period of time. As you know, the basic meaning of the work on the stock exchange - the intention to become rich at the expense of other market participants. The emergence of a large volume tells us that both professional traders and the "crowd" (small traders) took the position. At the same time, of course, the opportunity to make more informed decisions is available for the most knowledgeable market participants (investment firms, banks, hedge funds and so forth.). The longer the price will be at the same level, the more errors and incorrect transactions will be made by small traders. Their applications will be happily absorbed by the major players. I.e. price movement in a certain price range creates a balance, whose main task - accumulation of positions by large players - market professionals. Often, during the consolidation the major players are using a variety of manipulative techniques, that are forcing small traders to open unreasonable positions. When markets are not interested in the current price (or important news comes out and market conditions change, either one of the parties is not interested in making transactions anymore), then clear imbalance appears - the trend. The price starts to move in search of more “interesting” level, which suits the majority of market participants, the majority of buyers and sellers. Here we come to the basic concept of the work with the volume. This concept is a transfusion of money from one large volume to another. Once out of range, the movement, in most cases, lasts until the amount, equal or exceeding the original volume (the one that accumulated during the period of consolidation), will appear. It should be understood that the trend (especially the first pulse of the trend movement), as a rule, is not created by new purchases, but by the closure of the old positions by small traders, who misjudged the market. Due to the proper interpretation of volume, you can find the source of the traffic, the source of the emerging trend. With the same success you can identify signs of slowing trend and its possible reversal. Often, it is not necessary to try to understand in which direction during the period of "savings" a major player moves. Many trading strategies are based on the expectation of leaving the consolidation and opening a position conservatively. We’ll talk about it later. Cheers!
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Good confirmation of rising or falling How to understand if there's a false breakdown or not? Often the breakdown gathers stop losses. You need a more accurate indicator. I use the range bar. Having configured the necessary settings of the delta, I can understand where there's a real prerequisite for strong growth, and where the price goes in a certain balance: from edge to edge. Note the following examples: ES, EUR / USD, WTI. Range bar sets the bar not on the time parameters, but upon accumulation of the delta. I draw your attention to the rate of accumulation. If the bar is formed rapidly, within 5-10 minutes - it greatly increases the chances for confirmation. And what patterns or indicators do you use to confirm a trend?
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For those who trade arbitrage transactions It will be interesting to see the difference between the Brent and Crude oil. At the moment, the delta is at a very high level and converge periodically. Easy money
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Hey people, didn't pay attention but I posted this post in the wrong category
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Hi people I give you a piece of the Grail ☺ Intraday trading, I show the working volume settings. Mark the correct amount, look at the reaction of the volume. Open position when price approach to the level of volume. Pictures 1 - without setting Pic. 2 and 3 - setting of volume Pic. 4-6 - examples. Enjoy your profits!
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So Now we are below big volume which accumulated during last week. I recomend close all long position if you have. Now we decrease till volume area of end of Sep. To explain my view. I make forecast based on Volume analisys. And volume analisys is shows that consolidation area which was from 15 Oct till 22. Oct removed all buyers. Growth of 14 Oct was the last of day when Big Players go out from the pair. On Cluster Chart we see that Delta was negative despite the strong growth. It was start of the end of bullish movement.