Jump to content

Welcome to the new Traders Laboratory! Please bear with us as we finish the migration over the next few days. If you find any issues, want to leave feedback, get in touch with us, or offer suggestions please post to the Support forum here.

rlim

Members
  • Content Count

    2
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Personal Information

  • First Name
    Ray
  • Last Name
    Lim
  • Country
    United States

Trading Information

  • Vendor
    No
  1. @Db, I read a couple of places that referred to springs and shake outs as a test of supply. E.g., "A spring is a price move below the support level of a trading range that quickly reverses and moves back into the range." link A spring is a price move below the support level of a trading range that quickly reverses and moves back into the range @MightMouse, I am not sure what you mean by "ex post facto", but a successful spring with low volume would indicate that supply "is or might be" available below support. The article to which you refer is based not on Wyckoff but on Robert Evans' interpretation of Wyckoff. There are no "springs" nor creeks nor ice. There is no "law of cause and effect" nor is there a "law of effort vs result". This is not to say that the Evans version is not useable. But it isn't Wyckoff. If you want to learn Wyckoff's approach, study Wyckoff's course. You will likely find that doing so at this point will be exceptionally difficult due to your having so much to unlearn. FWIW, I decided a couple of years ago to stop arguing about this and pursue another path: the SLA. In fact, I posted the following to another site just yesterday: The SLA/AMT is a reset. After years of arguing about what's Wyckoff and what's VSA and what's Evans and what's SMI and trying to sort it all out, I finally two years ago started from scratch. If traders want to break through ice and jump creeks, they are welcome to do so, but that no longer has anything to do with me. Rather than spend/waste seemingly endless amounts of time arguing about what is or is not Wyckoff, I can ask that those who are interested in all this focus on the SLA and implementing the SLA. As the SLA is about as simple as it gets with regard to trading price and as the entire thing is one-fifth the length of Wyckoff's course (100p vs 500p) and the condensed version posted to the first post is one-fifth of that (20p), and as one can approach it without testing and with minimal journaling, the primary task for the intended becomes extinguishing bad habits and learning new ones, rather than slogging through hundreds of pages and thousands of posts. The SLA is based on and stems from Wyckoff, but one can study it and practice it and trade it without ever having heard of Wyckoff or having read a single word of his course. You are of course welcome to study Wyckoff in the original and ask whatever questions occur to you. But if you choose not to do so, you won't be alone. The SLA is far simpler and far easier to understand. You may also be interested in this post.
  2. I need help clarifying why a "test of supply" is a markdown of prices below the support. I would have imagined it would be a test of supply above the resistance. Below is my understanding of the "test of supply" What is a "test of supply"? A "test of supply" is more specifically a test of supply below the support level. It is not intented to tell us about the supply above the current price or at resistance. It also does not indicate if price will move higher, which is why we still watch the next bar after a successfully test of the supply. When we test for supply, we are finding the market's opinion if the underlying has reached a bottom. How does SM marked down the prices? SM simply sells a small volume of the underlying at a price below support and the bids. SM would then watch the effort to recover above the support, which is measured by volume. Reactions to the markdown A. Price continues to move downward. "Test of supply" obviously failed and found large supply below the support. B. Prices recover above the support with low volume. "Test of supply" is successful. Few owners of the underlying are willing to sell below support, expecting higher prices in the near future. Few shorts want to enter new short positions. Shorts don't see the underlying moving further below support, concluding the reward is not worth the risk. Buyers are snatching up the few shares available below support. Shares are transitioning from weak to stronger hands. Market is indicating, at this point of time, that prices have reached the bottom. C. Prices recover above the support, but with high volume. Although price was able to hold above support, "Test of supply" is not considered successful. The markdown has triggered a large amount of selling activity. Many stop losses are triggered. Owners are getting worried and exiting their positions to limit their losses or perseve their capital. More shorts feel confident the underlying will move lower and enter new short positions. The high volume indicates a large supply. Questions about the "test of supply" However, why is a high volume test of supply not successful? Although supply was large, demand overcame supply by closing above the support. So why is the underlying considered not be ready to be marked up? Checking the smaller timeframe for success? I am imagining a 5 minute bar, markdown is at beginning of the bar. The bar recovers above support in the 1st minute with low volume. The next 4 minutes, underlying is trading above the support with high volue. At a 5 minute timeframe, the test of supply would be a failure, but the 1 minute time frame would indicate a success. I am guessing the 1 minute timeframe trumps the 5 minute time frame and the "test of supply" successful. Where did you read about or hear about "test of supply"?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.