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Chimp1_1.mq4 Yes ADXVMA6Sub2_2 was the latest... But just to make monkeys out of all of us, it now has Red and Green histogram bars and a new name. You still have to set min=-1 and max=1 on the common tab if you prefer a fixed scale. Wanted to add a more volatile line into it but ran out of arrays. Until I figure out a tidier way of doing it Chimp1_2 will be coming as a second oscillator type window, sorry about that chief. Chimp1_1.mq4

Seems to behave more like a momentum oscillator now.

ADXVMA6Sub2_2.mq4 Took out some of the unused stuff, may be more to come out yet. You still have to set min=-1 and max=1 on the common tab if you want... Let me know if you want preset values, whatever. ADXVMA6Sub2_2.mq4

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..safe port man... nice clean things here... cheers Walter. Agree regards. Also trying 5(or4) 1 1 1 1 the last one is VI sq, gives more HE on zero line. You might be due for the golden banana medal soon.... Just bagged some nice wee scalps, if that keeps up... happy days.. These days my mm is lagging 2 or 3 pips behind on the price, must be hurting or getting greedy. Wonder if a "5min" type signal can go in there too...

ADXVMA6Sub2_1.mq4 Version with ADX_Bars disabled, you might like this one. But it needs to have "fixed minimum"= -1 and "fixed maximum"=1 added using the "common" tab. ADXVMA6Sub2_1.mq4

Getting an insane range of adjustments just from the ema weights....

Trying the faster settings here. Anything in the top half means up, bottom half means down. Not the easiest to look at but see how it trades... There will be some ways to make the signal a bit different but want to avoid delays caused by smoothing.

Zero line is HE, but getting good HE also means late signal maybe, scratch scratch opps hairs dropped out...happy signals. VI is behaving a bit like cci here, not linear, first part of ladder shows best, later parts gets cramped near top or bottom, not good, reminds me of some other oscillators that do that. The VIsquared option may make HEs stronger, use 1 for that.

ADXVMA6Sub2.mq4 Added some smoothing for the display line, but it can make the signal late. ADXVMA6Sub2.mq4

Second time lucky? Currently this looks like the best sub-indicator option to me, the VI signal. Also try 3,4,4,4 umm some numbers after that do nothing... ADXVMA6Sub1.mq4

ADXVMA6Sub1.mq4 Very rough first attempt.

CAV1.mq4 CCI_ADX_VMA Set to its fastest settings. Settings similar to "5min" might be 20,20,20,20,20,10, 0.4, ignore the rest. Using the cci signal as the input instead of price. Lambert made the cci formula non-linear which is probably why the first half of a ladder shows up well (ok), but the second half shows only weakly (not ok). CAV1.mq4

Yes I tried playing with some 20 or 30 emas in there, at first it looks promising, then it looks useless. It would be good to have a band, lines on both side of the price, we have only one line from vma "5min", a question is... could a "mirror image" of the "5min" vma line be added on the other side of the price, so we have a sort of bb effect? Perhaps a 20 ema on one side and a reflection of 2O ema on the other side, or modify a bb? I see only a couple of possibilities for an oscillator type display, whether it is adxvma VI signal or a CCI type signal, a trade signal needs to start and end on the zero centre line crossing in an oscillator pane. Whether VI or CCI, the signal will have to be processed to get that effect. Adx is better understood than cci.I cant offer you what you ask for, I can only ask you to choose between the two choices that I understand. An oscillator needs to go from -1 to +1, the VI signal from adxvma might be displayed like this. This would be the quickest place to look for a quick fix. Cci will take as long as it takes, I have no idea how long that will be, there are many cci possibilities, it will take time to work thru them.

Posts 362 and 363, 2vmas agreeing with 5min magenta definiton, see definition.tpl The 10 bar thing in 363 was a waste of time but lead to Tick2 in 364. definition.tpl

ADXVMA6Tick2.mq4 Intended to be used with Tick1. Where Tick1 gives something like a "1min trend signal" (what do you call it?), Tick2 gives something like a "2.5min trend signal". Now a warning, take the Tick2 trend signal with a huge pinch of salt, it will NOT tell you which direction the price is going to break in, completely unreliable because of the odd time delay used. Using Tick2 will be about art not science, but with practice and patience it looks like it can be a useful guide for scalps and possible ladder steps. Recommend demo scalping at first, not real $. There is a picture titled "Tick2" in a previous post showing behaviour on a weak trend but it needs live practice imo. There are user settings in Tick2 so you can experiment with multiple copies set to different speeds. ADXVMA6Tick2.mq4

Hope you remembered to buy beer and nanas.. Had a lot of fun with scalps last nite...

Tried the same trick with 10 bar settings but it "breaks".

Tried a similar approach with 20 bar settings, the "5min definition" thing. Both set to 20 bars but yellow one has VImax=0.8. Notice the agreement on trend definition from 2 different methods, R over Y and Magenta crossing. Not finding much use for the fancy stuff so far.

My approach with cci will be similar to adx- Pull it apart, try to make sense of each bit and how the bits work together, what works for us and what works against us? Somehow I need to get a normalized signal out of it, then things can be done with it. Unfortunately I had the thought that price versus volume would also give something like HEs and laddering. Dude. I need to live like 300 years to think about all this stuff.... Still got things to learn/do with adxvma yet and trying not to go off track from that yet.

Some of the plotting issues came from my mistakes, some come from MT4 missing ticks. I have not used the fix because it only corrects bar data after it has become historical, it still does not give you valid live tick data to trade with. I have been trying to be tactful, but basically if MT4 cant provide reliable tick data then bottomline- it is unreliable.

If it matters, the settings for the fastest line are- ADX_Bars=2 WeightDM=1.1 (unstable with 1.0) WeightDI=1.0 WeightDX=1.0 ChandeEMA=1.0 Fancy stuff all off. 1.0 ema means no smoothing, no ema.

ADXVMA6Tick1.mq4 These are 2 of the fastest lines I can get out of vma6. They provide a very short term trend definition for use as an aid to scalper exits. Although the picture shows them in a full screen, they would normally be used in a 1min chart which is tall and narrow and zoomed right in. There can be less than 1 pip of price difference between the two lines, so the chart needs to be tall, but like a tick chart it does not have to be very wide. The only difference between the two lines is that the setting of VImax=0.6 affects only the second line (preset to yellow but you can alter the colors). If you want more gap between the lines, reduce VImax to 0.5 but it will also make the second line slower. If you want a faster comparison, set VImax to 0.7 or 0.8 but there will then be less visible gap between the two lines. ADXVMA6Tick1.mq4

>>I take my hat off to Bruce for doing such a great job on the MT4 system as it looks awful to program on. Thanks Blu-Ray but I keep finding mistakes in nearly all my programs. Don't have the patience or the focus that I used to have. Walter I expect the live bars/missed ticks problem exists only on MT4. Their implementation of an indicator package can't be considered fully successful.

Sundowner Please do mess anyway you like. I have a blockage with the cloud thing, so anything that helps make sense of it for me is good news. I hear that some people rely on it so I know I am behind the play on it. And yes, "is it just a pretty picture or is it telling me something useful?" Yes, that question is a familiar one, more questions than answers, situation normal. Sadly I don't know enough to even speculate in this area.