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They are all available at http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/f10/

Wow! Well done Clym - thanks for sharing your work.

Hi Darth - this does sound like good stuff - will take a good look over the next few days - thanks for the links

Anyone used a laptop cooling pad, might do the trick? Here are some links to information (from Australian websites but sure there would be little difference): http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/844521.html http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=776081 http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=776081&p=2 http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=320201

Hi Simon - thanks for making your app. available!

Sledge is probably the best to ask about how he deals with the change in FX volume characteristics from the Asian session into the European and then London open. And nothing wrong with VSA controversy if the point is to further our understanding and learning, which yours is dandxg.

You're right dandxg, the maths shows that something weird is going to happen with 240 min time bars on those contracts ... do they suggest rolling over the time remaining to the next day or what ... like that's going to work....

Yeah I have noticed that.

CW - in response to your post (#1065), I have attached a 'zoomed-in' view of your volatitly expansion/breakout area to put a question to yourself and the forum. I have added some black horizontal lines, one at the low of the 'Volatiltiy Breakout' WRB and two others labelled 1 and 2. Viewed on a 5-minute bar (as your chart is) the volatility breakout bar is marked as you have done so. If the same action was being viewed on a 10-minute bar, or a 15-minute bar, or some other timeframe bar, the volatility breakout WRB could well be viewed as being the addition of two of the 5-minute bars (or three, or whatever). I think then that the "WRB" (not the right terminology, but bear with me) could well be viewed, and probably should be viewed, as being the entire price area between my bottom horizontal line and either the horizontal line line marked 1 or 2. My reasoning is that the dynamic of the surge higher in price, which is the price expansion plus the big volumes, stretches over at least 3 and, my preference, 5 bars (the extent is going to be a judgment call on behalf of each trader, something I am comfortable with for myself but others may not be). Viewed this way we set up a much wider "Supply/Demand Delta zone" (I like that term) ... which may or may not be a good thing... Any thoughts on this anyone?

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Gassah - your last three posts appear to be only one side of a conversation. I am enjoying imagining what the other side might be...

Erie - the problem is you have copied the incorrect link into the body of the post. Delete the current link location from the body of the post and replace it with this link location: http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/blog_attachment.php?attachmentid=143&d=1208004579

OK - right I see what you mean. Erie - try this Go into that URL thats printed on the screen and change . the last numbers in there from 12080 04812 to 1208004579

erie - is this for the post to your blog title April 1st? Image appears fine to me. If you are not logged in then the image will appear as a url, but when logged in it appears correctly

Hi forsearch - have you checked out the MP posts on this website? There is heaps of info there on MP and I think once you have read started reading those the differences between MP and VSA will be much clearer?

Thanks dandxg and Db ... appreciate the considered feedback. I have started a thread where I can move inappropriate posts. I am reluctant to delete any posts, better to allow people to be heard (as long as it within fourm guidelines), but may move them away from this thread. The delete option can remain in the background if needed, though.

This thread has come about to enable discussion on the philosophy of VSA away from the VSA threads, which are venues more for application of VSA. Those wanting to question the usefulness of VSA ideas/concepts have done so in the VSA threads, but the questioning has beome so persistent and no resolution appears in sight that this thread has been created to enable that disucssion to continue.

Thanks BlowFish. What you said about the thread needing moderating is right and is something I have heard a few times very recently. I have let the distractions go on too long, in the interests of being fair, but the persistence is tiresome and hence I think moving such posts to alternative venue where they can be debated ad nauseum will work.

Thanks Sledge.

D'oh! I hadn't thought of that ... LOL Thanks for the feedback.

Hi forsearch - welcome. Sorry MP has nothing to do with VSA, just using it as an example of splitting the discussion of the practical from the philosophical - sorry for the confusion.

Can I get some feedback please? First, to state the obvious. The two VSA threads are the two biggest threads on TL. These two threads attract a lot of people to the site, and these people come back again and again. Some become contributors, some contribute again and again. These two threads on TL are the number one source of VSA related information on the web, both in quantity and quality, even including the paid services from the commercial vendors of VSA-related education and software. If I were the owner of this site, I would be very happy about this, as I believe Soultrader is. A part of this thread is questioning the validity of VSA ideas and concepts, it is a good thing. I believe, though, that the number and persistence of these types of questions is now significantly distracting from the practical, applied aspects of the thread. If you read a book on, say, Market Profile, part of the book is devoted to discussing the philosophy behind the concepts, Then it moves on, the philosophy is not questioned again and again throughout the book. I could come up with other examples. At a college or university there is a course on Economic Philosophy, and a valuable course it is. But you don't discuss Economic Philososphy in Finance classes, for instance. So I propose splitting the thread, basically starting a new one, where a discussion can take place on the 'philosophy' of VSA, whether it is a crock or not ... whatever. This will leave this thread free for the practical applied side. Like I said, there is a role for the 'is it a crock' discussion, let it flourish I say, and it shall have its own forum for debate. Feedback please - good idea or no?

Read this 24 hours ago and have been looking forward to it. Sounds good.

Hi Ricks Inn & Eiger - I haven't read any of Ney's books, and am only familiar with his works from what I can find on the net around the place. I would be interested in any review you could provide, no matter how brief. How do his views fit with VSA etc.?

Ditto. I persist with them though, the idea of bars/candles holding volume constant is appealing. I think they may be very useful to derive 'indicators' (like stochastics, RSI etc. from) but as I don't use indicators I don't know. I wonder if a market profile could be constructed from constant volume ... never mind now I am really getting OT.