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alwaysastudent
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alwaysastudent started following Only Have 5K, Buy-in on Algo Trading, E-Minis Vs Volatile Etfs and and 7 others
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Try Reuters DataLink
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i'm doubtful you would find *free* 1 sec ticks. if you do please update the thread
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Not sure if its a dirty secret or a open one. Most retail traders make money by a combination of these methods: Trade own money Trade other people's money Sell / mentor their system Sell indicators Sell subscriptions to their newsletters The last 3 smooth out their income flow even if 1-2 is the bulk of their monthly revenue. Think of it this way, if their system nets 20% a month profit 20% of 0 capital is still 0 profit. I'm not knocking the guys who sell their system. There is a place for everything. No one knocks McDonald's or KFC for selling their system and there is no reason to do so in the trading arena. That said: caveat emptor.
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Then your first step might be to fund a scanner instead of a full-blown auto trader. You can run the scanner once a day/week and manually trade the top few. If you are interested in pursuing this (scanner or auto trader) PM me and we can take this discussion off-line.
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Both have their pros/cons. Personally I think Forex is the best instrument for a beginner if only because you can risk an extremely small amount, $0.10/pip on nano, and scale up as you become proficient and have the capital for it. Everything else, the chart reading, money management, managing emotions etc are the same regardless of the instrument you trade. However between E-mini and ETF I would suggest ETF although there is the $25,000 day trading requirement. Not an issue if you swing trade.
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Are you looking to purchase ? or you have an idea which you want to develop ? If you currently have a working system then converting it into a blackbox (or graybox) is plausible. Plausible if the system it non-discretionary. As any trading system you have to be clear about trade identification, entry, adjustments, exits and money management. Once that is coded, debug and tested the next step is integration with your broker. Here you are looking at redundant computer systems and getting as close as the broker's backend servers as possible. Then comes another round of testing to ensure the redundant coding works. Too many stocks to scan ? We can solve that by making the code distributed... and add another round of testing. Self-learning algo adds another dimension of complexity. While the machine is 'learning' be ready to accept drawdowns. Couple of issues that tend to arise include order entry limitations, error codes (especially from the broker), slippage, and the usual redundant distributed application issues.
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Leverage magnifies wins ..... and loses. If your system has a decent win rate and proper risk reward then any leverage instrument would give you better 'bang' for your dollar. Only ETF I trade is Spy and even then only its options.
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MachTrader in the beginning and now MetaStock.
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Autotrade Fx Options on 1 ETF and 5 stocks. However this is due to laziness running scans, when actively scanning no restrictions.
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"Think I Need a Bigger Account"
alwaysastudent replied to CType's topic in Swing Trading and Position Trading
I have a small account (anything below 25k is small, the first goal should be the day-trading margin requirement) and feel your pain. 1. Small account holders trading stocks will find it near impossible to risk 1% if they want to make a profit and include commissions into the calculation. You are likely looking at closer to 3-5% (possibly upto 10%) risk per trade. 2. Tight stops means lowering your win:loss ratio as your trade no longer have the proper room to 'breathe'. I would never ever recommend tight stops for the initial trade entry. Two techniques that can help is to either: (a) place entry/stops a a lower time frame, i.e. trade the daily set entry/stops in the 15 mins or (b) scale into the trade. Initial half as it goes your way add half while looking for a solid trend run. I personally use (a) with good results. 3. Only you can determine if that is psychologically sound. Would you worry so much that you start meddling ? Lose sleep ? Act rashly ? As other posters commented you can also consider leveraging. Options is the next logical step for most stock traders however my favourite credit spreads forces me to take on 9-10% risk per trade. Two other leverage instruments are Forex and Futures. I have a great love for Futures and do very well paper trading a large account but found it near impossible live trading with a small account. At the lowest you are risking $5/tick. It doesn't take much too blow up your account. Instead I now trade Forex on a mini because it gives me finer control over how much risk I want to take. It allows me to scale from a couple of cents per pip to a few dollars. However Forex and Futures are more day trades in comparison to swing trades. To continue swinging options would be the more appropriate instrument. -
Unless you opened your account with PFG like I did :crap: Actually I agree with the other posters and feel that 5K in Futures is too small even with the e-Mini YM. Don't get me wrong I love Futures, prefer trading Futures and want to actively trade Futures. However now trading mostly Fx on a mini because it give me a better handle on risk.
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Among option traders delta is also the probability the strike price would be ITM at expiration. With this you can structure your trade and adjust it as delta changes. You can also use option premiums to gauge sentiment. For example, puts and calls with a similar ITM distance and the puts premiums are more expensive means a bearish sentiment. Given the square root of time calculation you can determine the range the underlying is likely to be in. Since a number of options plays short for credit you can then place your positions outside this range.
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To answer your question I have to start with the believe of what price action and technical analysis means to him (and me): Price action is trading based on what is happening now. At this instance. Using volume and open interest to determine sentiment (bullish, bearish, neutral) and exploit that sentiment for the brief period it exists. Technical analysis is looking at past sentiments to predict future sentiment. The trader places meaning to past events (support, resistance, trendlines, chart patterns) and exploits the statistical reoccurrence of past patterns and the predicted next pattern. My option mentor calls this driving forwards in a car looking thru the back window. Since the Greeks, especially delta, are future expectations of price movement it stands to reason that using option pricing is sufficient for predicting price movement. I can't say I buy his argument 100%.....
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Price Action ? Indicators ? Whats all this sorcery ?!? One of my options mentors laughed at me when I told him I use PA, he claims to rely solely on option pricing. How can I argue with someone who made a 30+ years living trading options in this manner ? That is not to say I discarded PA and TA. His trading model works even if I keep my PA. *shrug* Bottom line: I don't care what you use or if you are right or wrong. If you show consistent profits month after month year after year I am willing to learn from you.
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You are looking to make between $400 - $1600/month. If you risk your entire 15k that is between 2.67 - 10.67% / month. Or 4-16% / month is you only risk 10k and hold 5k in reserve. When you say part-time what do you mean ? Couple of hours every night ? Some folks trade the overnight market, Tokyo and London open for Forex is the evening for most of us Canucks. You could also swing trade options and there are option plays that take minimal supervision and still net you the returns you are looking for in a month. Now, I have tactfully ignore one important issue. How much learning and trading effort would you need to get these returns. If you have a solid model you are still looking at minimum of a year paper trading before going live on a small account. You are looking at around 2 years before you can post the returns your are looking for. If you are starting from scratch add another year or two to develop your model. Summary: Doable within a few years given proper effort.