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Speaking of replies not being thought through.. I didn't think I would have to spell it out in entire war and peace detail as I assumed it would go without saying, but.. after receiving the statements, the next step in the verification process would obviously be to either log into their account with read-only or "investor" access, or view it live via conferencing software etc. to confirm it matches their statements. There would be no possible way without broker collusion that a fraud could be perpetrated. I did not say I'd been "searching" for 4 years. Anyone who has spammed me I have simply asked for proof. No time wasted on my part. And yes, I do check out the quality of work carried out by important contractors.. before engaging and spending money with them. Why would anyone engage a builder to renovate their house unless they'd inspected their past work on other properties first hand. You would from the sounds of things. The key word being "important" of course, and a dry cleaner or laundromat does not fall into this category. Apart from builders, of course doctors lawyers and accountants do qualify as "important" and should be vetted. The fact that you included a dry cleaner indicates you don't separate what's important and what's not in this regard, or in regards to trading, which is not conducive to success. The truth is very important in trading and should be verified beyond reproach before spending any money.
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Only a fool living in hope would accept as proof a statement showing 1 days worth of positive trading. This is a ridiculously un thought through example. It's very unlikely someone is going to spend 3 months fabricating a 6 month historical trading statement, and then thereafter update it daily, which is the duration of history I am proposing is made available as verification. I can see you all "want" to believe. Go right ahead, but in advance.. I TOLD YOU SO!
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Bad attitude? Unhappy with myself? No, not at all. I just believe in telling it how it is and calling a spade a spade. And I'm not asking for your help, and I am in fact very happy with myself because I have never been caught out by people such as EminiJUNK. No, you're right you wouldn't send me your statements, you would use some subterfuge smoke screen reason not to like "I'm not sending you my statements because you have a bad attitude!".. because you in fact wouldn't be profitable and would be BS'ing like they all do. You couldn't send your statements in that scenario because doing so would show the world that you weren't telling the truth, so you'd create ambiguity and diversion to avoid the subject. Why am I here in this forum? I'm here to slap people like you in the face who persist in living in hope, to WAKE THEM UP from their delusional dream, so they don't continue wasting their time and money on BS artists like EminiJUNK. Why am I trying to help a person like you who persists in living in hope and being a gullible hopeless sucker? I guess because I'm more gracious and generous than you say you would be. WAKE UP and smell the EminiCRAP! Ask him for his statement to verify he is a consistently profitable trader and that it is therefore worth your while at least pursing his education. Make sure you acknowledge you understand that just because he is profitable it doesn't mean you will be.. otherwise he will refuse to send you his statement for this reason. Even if you phrase your enquiry to eliminate this excuse from his repertoire, I bet he will still refuse, citing "confidentiality" type reasons.
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pivotal replied to AgeKay's topic in Automated Trading
Ahhh.. yet another living in hope, wanting to believe. -
No, it's not a little bit much. It's reality. Stick to your day job UNLESS someone can provide hard indisputable evidence that their stuff is worth paying money for. It's a hard world and this is the hard reality. Prove it, or f### off should be what these trading marketers are told. And as for your comment, "we both know there are retail traders that are making it".. I don't. You're STILL living in hope in saying this. You WANT to believe. In 4 years, not one person has ever sent me a statement (except a fraudulent fabricated one) to prove they make money consistenly. Ultimately the markets are random in the short term (day trading), and inherently can't be predicted. If they could, then everyone would make money, which is not possible. If there is anyone who is "making it", they wouldn't be wasting their time on the flea bag public. Why on earth would you? The law of compounding means that you wouldn't need to deal with people asking stupid questions and having to explain things 6 times. As if anyone who is "making it" financially from trading would burden their life with such nuisance and hassle. Hope is the most powerful word ever invented. Makes people do silly things even when all the signs point to doing the opposite.
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Please see my post above. The question I am personally curious about knowing the answer to is: Why have you all persisted in living in hope and bought his junk without any real proof (live statements) that it works? It seems completely silly to me when everyone knows that 99.9% of people flogging such stuff are scamming wanabee bs artists who aren't fit to dispense fries at McDonanlds.
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pivotal replied to AgeKay's topic in Automated Trading
Why do people persist relentlessly in living in hope? There is nothing to prove this guy is being truthful. to this thread's starter: get your source to POST his statements and prove that he's a consistently profitable trader as claimed and not just another scamming wannabee bs artist. -
You are spot on. I asked him to send me his statement to verify he is a consistently profitable trader as claimed, though you guessed it.. he wouldn't. "Confidentiality" and all the usual BS reasons scam artists wheel out were given. Confidentiality my a##! If you're marketing a product or service in the public domain, and are asking for money from the public for that product of service, then it's a perfectly reasonable request to verify publicly that what you are marketing works and is worth paying for. None of these services make money. Persisting in living in hope and chasing a dream of getting something for nothing (impossible in this life), will only see you waste your time and money. Puretick is another scam just like EJ for the same reasons, though they will actually tell you that the government prevents them from posting their live statement. hahahahahaha. Hilarious. PATHETIC! Think about it, if you wanted to sell a product that you knew worked, the first (and probably only) thing you would do is post your live statement. Why? Because doing so would guarantee a sale, and thereafter 000's of sales from word of mouth. Stop living in hope and instead stick to your day job.