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good awnswer kinda what i was eluding to thanks for articipating

Are we bing "Primed" by our chats and Dom's the samr way we are advertisements and stuff like that into tricking us into dooint the wrong thing at the wrong time ?

Heres a thought for a thread for us Technical traders. Why do YOU think certain prices are important as in a place you would put on a trade on a pull back or how ever you decide to get in to the market. Example for me trading energies I like to seee what happens around quarters and dollars I might not use them to actually say if this holds, I'm long but i do like to see what kind if response you see around them. So what do you use and why do you think there is any meritt to why you use them?

I do trade my own stuff. but for me that means getting up at 4 am trading til 7:30 AM pst then go to work keeping my buisness I built with my blood sweat and tears going and getting home to do my family stuff after that. So a stand alone automated system would be nice. If you had one why wouldnt you share it? it would only make it more robust. The whole trading community I think for the most part is full of shit. Most people dont make money over the long haul and thats why they pretend to stand behind " Im not sharing my system it wont work any more". If people would just be honest for once it would be AMAZING. letting people in on a working system would make it stronger rather that weaker. Look at the whole Woodies CCI group the only reason those trades work is ther are so many people doing them. And i dont even know if they do work maybe Ken fades evry signal If he is even alive any more. If I could write out exactly how come each of my trades worked and why I made money off of them I would totally do it and I will if I get to that point. As it sits right now I have a good feel for where stops will release and trade accordingly. Management is where my edge is not letting loosers dominate. I get out early and get back in when i feel its time. Now I like to trade thin contracts. corn copper crude and I trade ES but they all have different temperments. So bring forth your system and put your money wher eyour mouth is.

well my intention was not to start a debate over system trading vs descretionary trading but maybe its a good topic.by all means please show me a profeitable system and i will gladly implement it. I double dog dare you !!!!

The reason I started the thred in the first place was to educate people in the ways of the vendors and and how no one sells a system that is truly profeitable. I personally think that "systems" are inharently flawed as they cannot take into account the context of the day as it pertains to the market. Thank you everyone who participated we served our purpose with this thred.

I LOve that response that about sums up the way I felt about it

I was contacted by a friend who wanted my advice about a vendor soliciting his $ for an indicator service. I did a small amount of research and found that they are connected to the "Traders Edge Network" and there is a master mind mathmatician who figured out how to read what the new trading computers of the "Big Guys" are dooing whos name if Jeff Augden. I personally have been trading indicator free for several years so I can not give an objective opinion. below are the links please look at it and give your opinions. http://www.swingtheaxe.com/final-trading-session-replay http://www.swingtheaxe.com/webinar/11-9-12.html http://www.swingtheaxe.com/additionalassets/055-Basic_Paterns.pdf enjoy and plaese respond not enough vendors are held accountable.

i love the term always

all of your plans, your disclipline, your hours of watching the tape, will all be for nothing without my new E book . Just kidding but seriously systems dont work! a, " system can't tell what new numbers are comming out , a system cant tell if the leader of syria has just been assinated, every thing is so dynamic these days your brain must be the biggest indicator you have. Price and eagerness of participants to trade at a certain price at a certain time is key . Other than than that I dont kow what else to say. my E book will be available on 12/23/2012 at 11:59 pm.

Well its setteled, Im going to get into the "Educating Traders" buisness ive just decided. And what im going to teach are 101 ways you will surely loose your ass in the futures market.The document I will produce will save people tons of cash!!!!! And the reason I know I started out doing all the things I will teach not to do. I will sell this vast and extensive knowlede base for the low low fee of $25.00 thats USD. PM me if you want a copy Im not even kidding Ill have it done in a week. Ill even talk to you Via skype if you want and trade at the same time.

5 months? if thats all your going to give yourself quit now or just wire me the dough.

Hey Tams Who you calling OP?

Is this strictly a forex discussion ? Or trading in general? Forex doesnt trade the same way oil does and ES is different from that. DB, I doubt most people even know what questions they are trying to ask at 6 months. With statements like yours you must be very sucsessful. Are you a teacher in how to make money trading?

looks like ya'll scared him off.

There is alot of talk these days of how the algo hft robots are messing with every thing but most of what they do is only for milliseconds and thats it. (most of the time). now i dont know this for sure but thats they only way they could possibly have an edge unless all the computers were working together. you could think of the robots like the replacement to the local in the pit. they are there to provide liquidity and trading for ticks not 10 handles. this is based in my opinion only and there are no facts anywhere to support any of what Im saying but it is a good observation.

MP is dead none of that stuff works anymore you should still look at a profile but the "MP" trades as used traditionally are garbage and have been for some time now.

The main reason for the thred is to find out who if any has used and been able to withdrawl from any of the binary dealers.Optek was on a page in a TL partner page so i was loking into them but havnt been able to find anthing on the web good or bad .only bad concerning trader XP the one my freind is trying out.

Ok I have a friend you just started trading them, so i decided to look into it for myself . from what I can read on the web its a little dicey just wondering if anyone has ever got there money out?

A frreind of mine sent me a link and a PDF describing "Binary Ootions". I was wondering if any one had heard if these and trades them regularly. I did a little internet search and it would seem there is a bit of scandelous behavior on part of some of the brokers. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I think personally the most important thing on a sunday night is the last open and the last close. That is the last beer you open and the last one you finish!!!! Cheers.

pretty bold statement on strategies winning all the time with a statement like that one should back it up with charts and examples.

All the statistical stuff means nothing theses days with all the news that comes out of europe every ten minutes. Context is everything and MP in its traditional roll is dead, like the pit. Just my 2 cents.

Theres a new video circulating aroud from stotlmyer on volume strips. Interesting stuff. Anyone know how I could get ahold of the hand out from the ceminar?