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YM Key Levels for Monday; 13,055 will be key for the bulls. 13371 13347 13229 13207 13170 13150 13139 13074 13023-26 12983 12976 12969 12949 12898 Good luck everyone!

Thanks 4 that. Takes awhile to understnad it, but anything good does.

Here is one that does not work out. See the read of the flow you have with this to get out. You expect it to C wave, it does not. TL5 Chart: The up cyan arrow as we enter the weekly envelope bottom refresh. TL6 Chart: 1st 2 cyan up arrows, looking to buy 13,033, you bot and you cud not get a close above the red envelope top. No C wave. Exit, the higher time period cyan pldot refresh area is pooshing down. TL6 Chart further on: Next 3 cyan up arrows is where we enter again, notice that the closes start going above the envelope top. THat is a C wave. About 5 bars after the last up cyan arrow, we exhaust(blue) back down into higher time period envelope bottom for an add-on, or to get long if you missed the action. We exhaust into the blue on top and chop for a while b4 going higher.

Using the daily chart refresh. Was good at the end of the day for some. TL3 Chart: 2 red arrows depict the daily envelope top refresh area. TL4 Chart: 2 red arrows depict the lower time frame going into an exhaust(blue) into the daily refresh(gold)..13,143. The squiggly part of the gold area, which is daily envelope top is Mondays Aug. 20's envelope top. Was definitley pooshing down. After market opens tonight I will post levels for Monday's trading. After all I have been through in my trading carreer, if anyone is looking for a method that is, well 4me, sound...perhaps you may find it to your liking.

Oops here are Charts.

Pretty well done with trading for another run, time for the annual summer vacation. Thot I wud drop a thread on geometry and see if there is any P&L-ers out there. Feel free to call me an ass, full of sh*t...etc etc. I have looked into some trading ideas over the years and have found this one to be useful. At this time of the year b4 holidays I get bored and welcome anyone of the same mind to jump in. Anyway here goes. I will set up some levels for tomoorows trading later this evening. But for now I thot I wud drop a chart or 2 and a brief explanation of said charts. TL1 Chart: Identifies where the YM wud hit the Weekly pldot refresh area for a possible trade. TL2 Chart: Identifies an exhaust into an extreme(blue) 13,200 for a short to envelope bottom(gold) 12,960, where it exhausts(blue)... IF pldot(cyan), did NOT poosh up. It did NOT as you got no C wave(a close above the red upper envelope top)

Any chance there is a YM trader who can see VSA helpful for the 3 trades noted?

OK thanks BF... nice looking chart, nice work. MultiCharts...had that one for a while...but seemed to be buggy...perhaps just me and my computer.

The value of a volume of "A Bar" that we need to be alerted to would be a nice topic? Since VSA I think suggests this bar is a sign...what is the sign amount of volume say for trading the mini-dow? Not trying to be confrontational...rather looking to learn.

Notouch, Thank you for showing the results of ACTUAL volume that is recorded by the CBOT. I have spent time analyzing the LDB, MP's and bell curve's of most histogram looking for an edge as I am sure you have also. The truth be told that trading in real time is about making money, that's all it is. If you are able to take your share than that is THE reward. To argue about the should's and should'nt's on who does what to me is a red flag showing the colour "EGO". When price falls down and makes a bottom...we are faced with asking what is large volume that will be used in this VSA analysis. If anything...what will quantify A ripe volume that needs to be analyzed. Perhaps stating what we need (volume amount) to analyze (if their is an edge here) and then we can see how it closes etc. Looking to learn and prosper!

AH...there's the 12369...nice day...more to go...

Looks like 10382 may be difficult first.

I will post them here as another interest...but it has been my work since 1995. Today was another nice one...still working on down to 10369 perhaps.

Tingull, Just an old geometry system that works for me. It generates the numbers with NO ambiguity. In fact the only mistake I see with what numbers I posted was 12500 was supposed to be 12506...my typo. Best trading today!

I thought it may be helpfull to others to see the numbers in my system...here they are for tomorrow FWIW. 12623 12590 12572 12555 12542 12500 12369 12326 Good trading!

Allright...tahnks for your 2 s. Was really looking to find out if anyone had this thing,,,open to hearning your input...this guy gets angry when he misses big moves...his system says sit tight...but he doesnt care...then he over trades...with NO system. This is his problem...lack of discipline and an emotional fear of missing out.

Been reading Soultrader's input here on poker and psychology...its nice to read this stuff! I have recommended a friend who is struggling to this site...he can fly his plane, but is having trouble taking profits out of the market over time. Then I came across the banner ad (top right) on this site and had wondered if anyone had any experience with this fellow's method of helpng a troubled trader and what product you used. I see he has a new one being offered with a very good refund policy...think I may purchase this for my frind to give a try. Commodity Futures Options Trading | Forex | Stock | Trading Psychology | Trader Mindset | Learn Trading | Trading for Beginners I am very sorry to have started a thread on volume analysis and pivotprofiler getting on about this stuff. I have not been able to use that stuff, but had mentioned it to see if anyone else did. It was more than 8 years ago I looked at it. I had spent thousands on courses such as that one...LDB data, Cisco data stuff etc...my own design of software...just was not a fit for me. Anywhay...I hope all is forgiven...I for one could not find the CD which had all that volume stuff on it...or else I would have posted. If I find you will be sure to find it here if its ok with Soultrader...but so far I have not found. The thing about volume is...when the market is exhausting...the volume dops off, so this following technique is red herring and then it needs to be qualified by acceptance and rejection etc...then the move is under way...it does NOT need to be that difficult. More and more courses are sold as a result of weaving an intricate amount of bullshit so traders think they are buying something revolutionary! Here on this forum, I see viable ways for traders to keep it simple so they can manage themselves in the heat of battle. Tradexman

Just alot on my plate right now...but if I can see a way to help I will. Good discussion here. Like the talk!

Yup its MATS alright... squat bars, jump bars, HHV & HV bars...whole new volume numbers to input for each day etc etc. Balanced Area MAtrix...BAM for short It is EXACTLY like you mentioned about the inconsistent useage of volume along the lines of market reversals. I have spent a fair penny and my time looking into volume...cisco futures and LDB data...I honestly have to say that perhaps I may have missed something as Dave Johnston from MATS is convinced it is the best thing since sliced bread, however I digress I am currently using geometry (my take from Drummond Geometry) SoulTrader has placed together a terrific environment. Keeping the salivating vendors at bay with alot of his and some others input on various edges. I am liking this place alot.

Came across this site Emini Day Trader - Market Profile, Volume and Proprietary Software to Day Trade the Emini S&P this guy shows the colored volume bars indicating price rejection and also acceptance...looks like he takes a couple of higher volume bars. (i.e. you will note the bars color changes with higher volume) then creates a balanced area...then looks to trigger at the middle of balance. He has charts to decipher.. BTW I have no affiliation and may have more details to share if anyone may be interested. Not looking to get this guy courses sold by NO means. I already have it, at least b4 he came out with this software to draw the middle. Any comments on this concept with anyone?

Thanks it works...sorry for any inconvenience...appreciate the help indeed though! Have a great Sunday! Had it plotting crosses in subchart 3.

I have the TTM trend indicator from TS forum, Tick Delta from this TL...and Delta TTM Div...but NO dots on the bars...any ideas or help on this are appreciated thanks.