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Hi Tams, Is there a different spreadsheet program other than excel which can be updated more than twice per second? Thanks

I personally use Esignal and their bid and ask info is superb!! When it comes to exporting it onto a spreadsheet application like excel, they will tell you their software was not meant for a high frequency transfer rate. You will have lots of gaps and incorrect info when using their DDE (Direct Data Export) program. Depending upon what rate of information flow you would require their program may not be what you are looking for.

Hi Thalestrader, Blowfish and I have worked out our disagreement via PM, I think as well of his opinion here at TL as you do I'm sure. Please understand that this vendor list is not a witch hunt or a judgement of someones character; it is in place only to to make public the possible/ probable differences in intentions between the posts of a vendor member and that of a regular community member.

hmmmmmmmmm..............................I wonder................................nah it couldn't be!!

There is nothing exclusive in this search to identify vendors. All members are welcome to help. Please let us know if you've found a TL member attempting to sell you or others anything on or off this site. Our vendor list with names product and price: alleyb / trading site mentorship / $800 per year asiaforexmentor / trading education / $399 course $8497 personal coaching Dbphoenix / ebook / $30 Dionysus Toast / indicator package / $249 doubletop11 / indicator package / $1000 per year EasyTrader_I / programming service / $30 per hour Eiger / mentorship courses / $69 - $1199 electroniclocal / 3 day seminar / $5000 Fulcrum Trader /training & chatroom /$97 per month chat & $397 - $697 training Lil Miss Markets / sector specific trade alerts / unknown, through email only Logic / manual / $750 lrushing / trading education / $37 per month nhallett / 5 hour course / $297 NihabaAshi & wrbtrader / training / $193 - $473 Plugger / trading program / $1997 Predictor / manual and mentorship / unknown, through email add only Rande Howell / multi media courses + 10 personal sessions / $ 2997 RicyBS / trading program / unknown, through email only steve46 / daily coaching / $200 per month swisstrader / multicharts package/ free - $9990 TheRumpledOne / indicators / $50 thetradingdoctor / coaching/ $250 per 50 min Tim Racette / ebook / $49 tjnoon / trading system / unknown, through email only tradingadvantagetm / training / unknown, through email add only Urma Blume / tradestation inducator package addon / $1400 per year windsurfer / trading program / $50 per month xkr1962 / training & mentorship / $8000 - $16,000 I will post the others after discovering what they are trying to sell and for how much. Thanks

If it was your lemonade stand, I probably would. Just kidding zdo. I appreciate the abstract sense of defining education and learning which you offer, it helps me to see things in a new light. Forgive me for taking myself too seriously at times. What I wouldn't give to see a list of your favorite trading related books. Oh well I've tried before to no avail.

Thanks Tams, maybe your right. Although somehow I think I've heard those wise words somewhere before! It always took my older brother to drag me out of stupid fights I would get into. I appreciate your efforts!

How nice for you to make public allegations against another mans character and then to decide it would be best to continue forward using PM. Perhaps your allegations should have been made through PM. You obviously had the time it took to publicly define me as a liar through my alleged 1. use of dubious tactics; 2. use of logical fallacies 3. bending of the truth 4. furthering of my agenda 5. misrepresentation of people and 6.intentional dishonesty. Please tell me how I have shown each of these and I will in turn reply to your charges. In this case bickering will serve a purpose, my own defense!! Explain the reasons for your allegations or apologize publicly.

I did that one before, I just wasn't sure what to do with them when they immediately started going down.

Hi Blowfish, There's no need to malign and run. Sit down, stay awhile, put your feet up and just start typing away. I certainly care what you think. See me as a party of one who is deeply interested in why you consider me to be a liar!!

Hi Blowfish, Fair enough, I'll argue with your argument and not you. I have certainly not completely misrepresented our vendor friend, wrbtrader. He is a vendor who wishes to be labeled as a "non selling vendor" and who desires that other vendors who have been proven to be sellers to be labeled as "selling vendors" as per post #241. To him this distinction seems of great importance, to me it is not. His argument should be with the moderator and not with me. By being labeled at all he has found a new client in you and I hope that you enjoy what he offers and that he appreciates what you give him in return! The "ends" you speak of were already accomplished before our vendor friend and myself continued to disagree with / misunderstand one another. No one had anything else to prove, so our disagreement could go forward as an honest one with no "ends" in sight. Your character assessment of me concerns the following 1. my use of dubious tactics; 2.my use of logical fallacies 3. my bending of the truth 4. the furthering of my agenda 5. my misrepresentation of people and 6.my intentional dishonesty. Please tell me how I have shown each of these and I will in turn reply to your charges. In your post # 252 & #260 you saw fit to attack my character without specificity, I would appreciate it if you would now take the time to attempt to prove these charges as being true. Blowfish, I neither want your thanks or your sympathy. By nature this community is a laboratory, good arguments will stand and poor ones won't, that's the nature of good science. Put forward your argument.

There is nothing exclusive in this search to identify vendors. All members are welcome to help. Please let us know if you've found a TL member attempting to sell you or others anything on or off this site. Our vendor list with names product and price: alleyb / trading site mentorship / $800 per year asiaforexmentor / trading education / $399 course $8497 personal coaching Dbphoenix / ebook / $30 Dionysus Toast / indicator package / $249 doubletop11 / indicator package / $1000 per year Eiger / mentorship courses / $69 - $1199 electroniclocal / 3 day seminar / $5000 Fulcrum Trader /training & chatroom /$97 per month chat & $397 - $697 training Lil Miss Markets / sector specific trade alerts / unknown, through email only Logic / manual / $750 lrushing / trading education / $37.00 per month nhallett / 5 hour course / $297 NihabaAshi & wrbtrader / training / $193 - $473 Plugger / trading program / $1997 Predictor / manual and mentorship / unknown, through email add only Rande Howell / multi media courses + 10 personal sessions / $ 2997 RicyBS / trading program / unknown, through email only steve46 / daily coaching / $200 per month swisstrader / multicharts package/ free - $9990 TheRumpledOne / indicators / $50 thetradingdoctor / coaching/ $250.00 per 50 min Tim Racette / ebook / $49.95 tjnoon / trading system / unknown, through email only tradingadvantagetm / training / unknown, through email add only Urma Blume / tradestation inducator package addon / $1400 per year windsurfer / trading program / $50 per month xkr1962 / training & mentorship / $8000 - $16,000 I will post the others after discovering what they are trying to sell and for how much. Thanks

Hi Blowfish With all of the efforts put forward to make this change, your concern is about 1. my use of dubious tactics; 2.my use of logical fallacies 3. my bending of the truth 4. the furthering of my agenda and 5. my misrepresentation of people. You must make for a very high maintenance relationship. Get your head out of the clouds and just say, thanks!! The change which a lot of us, including you, have been wanting is about to come. It's not "my cause" it's for the good of this community.

Hi wrbtrader So, enough said! This gentleman is going to purchase your trading education!!! By becoming labeled and being informative you've found a client. I said so from the 1st or 2nd page that this could be a goldmine for a vendor who provides both good trading theory and a good product, perhaps that vendor is you!! You're welcome!

Tams if you and I don't stop bullying these guys there'll be no mice left to play with!!

Aw.... c'mon Tams, why did you have to go and break up a good misunderstanding. It was just starting to get fun!!

Mine were all winners too, up until that last one when I lost it all!!:rofl::rofl:

Tams.......I'm shocked!! If this man says it's a grail than who are you to question him. It's obvious to me that you are the problem here and not him. This man simply wants new friends and all he wants out of this friendship is to give you the holy grail!! The grail never fails Tams, it's just his fat finger mess ups that obviously account for the occasional loss. Next time I would encourage you to not be so cynical and to just go for it, no matter the cost. Even if money comes into play, always remember "it's just money.........money can't buy you love............and our all time favorite, you can't take it with you when you die!!!

Well that pretty much explains it all. I get it now!! I wondered how all the pieces would fit together but I can see clearly now the rain is gone. All of the obstacles have disappeared, it's gonna be a bright bright sun shiny day, now that I've seen that. It's a lot to take in all at once but I'm up for the challenge. There is no need for any more info as that picture coupled with those few sentences tell the whole story. On behalf of all of us here at TL, thank you! This will lead each of us to the next level in our trading education.

Hi wrbtrader, MMS is in no way obliged or even potentially able to tell us whether or not you are a selling vendor member. For that matter what difference does it make whether you've sold in the past or not? You are a vendor member and for whatever reason everyone here at TL knows it, please get over it!! I am simply wanting the transparency you speak of for the sake of determining the possible/probable intentions of the poster. TL will become a more welcoming place for traders to enjoy the company of like minded people while learning a little bit about trading, when vendors are labeled as being such. People can then develop some good friendships without the hindrance of self motivated posters trying to become your "friend" at a price! Create this type of community and the ad revenue will take care of itself as people are always drawn to a good community and that's what TL has the potential of becoming. You seem upset that I appreciate the community here at TL. A few times in your post you've mentioned how it's MMS who is going to make the decisions here at TL and not me, I like to think we all play a part in the decision making process. It's been clear to me that MMS has listened to our request for vendor labeling so myself and others have been given a sense of empowerment and ownership here that we appreciate. Those kinds of actions help to create a vibrant community be it on the internet or where you live. I've explained myself already concerning a vendor member like yourself who might be irritated at receiving your labeled vendor status, taking the opportunity to rejoin the community as a non vendor member who never again attempts to sell his wares here. What is the problem? What aren't you understanding? It seems clear to me that I am merely trying to help someone like you who is having problems with the label you are about to be wearing!!

Hi Bob, I'm all ears!!:shocked:

Hi wrbtrader That you are a trading vendor is a known fact, the question of whether or not you were trying to sell here on TL is I guess impossible to know other than if a member steps forward to let us know whether you've advertised your business here or approached someone on the forum with a sales promotion, private or otherwise. Why in the world are you so concerned about wearing a vending label when that is exactly what you do? Be proud of it and see it as a business opportunity!! Perhaps the quality of your posts will bring you new found success. What I give to TL and what it gives back to me are hopefully at least equal. I promote MMS business by visiting TL and in return he gives me access to someone else' posted information. The only way I can ruin this balance is by ruining the social fabric of this community through falsifying my intentions and trying to use every relationship here for my own selfish financial goals. As to your last statement, scrutiny and suspicion are two different things. A vendor must be open to scrutiny! It's the price he/she must pay as a vendor and certainly will pay at a trading forum. If this process is too intensive perhaps you're in the wrong line of work. You can't expect people to be so trusting of your intentions. Please read post #187 of this thread again. Thank you

Hi Blowfish The idea of a vendor rejoining the community under a new username as a non vendor was for someone who wished to become a non selling member of the community in the future. The community's perception of the possible/probable intentions of that vendor member would always be different from those of a non selling member as long as they stayed on as a vendor member. In labeling vendors the intention is not to place them under any suspicion, as you've humorously mentioned the placement of a skull and cross bones, potentially alluding to them as thieves or cheats. The intention of labeling is to stress the possible/probable difference in intentions they may have from those of non vending members. I think you'd agree this is a good thing and has been long overdue.

Hi electroniclocal, I'm a little familiar with your blog. It was started under the guise of you training your daughter to trade with consistent profitability. For some unknown reason you made this tutorship public, and soon afterward the selling started. I suggest that selling "education" was the sole purpose of your blog and the other story concerning training your family member was simply part of an attempt to appear as though you were a giving soul who was deeply interested in ,"helping others," as you put it. You are promoting yourself again sir!! The very thing I'm sure you are trying so hard not to do seems to come all too naturally to you. 1. You promote yourself as a "professional trader" putting down your competing " hobbyist" vendors as not being so. 2. You promote yourself as having a "successful track record," suggesting your other vendor friends do not have one. 3. You promote your "information" as much better than the "misinformation" spread by the other vendors. 4. You promote yourself as a provider of "comprehensive teaching" 5. You promote yourself as being a "help to other traders" You have done more "vendor bashing" in your one post than may have been done in this whole thread. I put forward that your method of consistent profitability might have worked to make yourself consistently profitable through selling trading education. You sir have no shame!! I didn't mention in the vendor list your $10,000 3-4 day trading seminar at your villa in France in the fall simply because it seemed too ridiculous to even speak of but with your over the top self promotion it is needed to put your possible/probable intentions into proper focus.

I don't know about "priceless"! :haha: What did you vend and why did you stop? When did vending end as part of your "developmental stage"? Or for that reason why did it start?