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Easy to spot the momentum, as it displays a multitude of identical bars. 2tick (m) should display the new momentum range. 2tick ® should display the range we have used so far.

Did you notice that the menu is mixed up, range is linked to momentum and vice versa? Please tell us what improvement you found on the range bar.

Same here, I get a critical error (sent to OEC) when I import my settings. Also I’ve noticed that the menu is mixed up, range is linked to momentum and vice versa. My range bar charts (referred as ®) are displaying the new mmoommeennttuumm bars :shocked:

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MarketBrowser I’ve just come across this one, worth looking at it, prices delayed at least 20m though. Cheers.

Hi Martin, Try: high + TickSize + 0.2 or bigger if you want more distance. In addition the coloring study can be used, see picture. Cheers.

I often use a right click on an object in order to delete it, after successive updates the Remove button has been moved to the bottom, which is not convenient. ‘Remove’, ‘Copy’ and ‘Paste’ buttons should be reunited in first or second position after’ Properties’ as being extensively used. Thanks for adding the request on the list.

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I won’t t use the demo until the right version of range bar is reinstated, that's for sure. Otherwise I have good relation with OEC and I’m satisfied by their service , it is just this time I can’t understand what is all about, may be a new guru is going to propose the Holy Grail in a private chat room or blog using this new so called momentum range. The fact is I can find on the web a momentum range bar with the conventional definition, so the name is factious, as well as the method used to impose the new version. Hopefully all is going to get back the way it was, which is not fixing the problem reported in the first place, so back to square one.:crap:

There is a difference between SC and OEC in the clone bars construction, I don’t know if it is of great importance though. I’m interested in the conventional range bar which is pure price action, so by definition I don’t want multiple bars of the same range as I consider them as noise in timeframe and indicators of all sorts including moving averages and volume.

Thanks for the info, I’m sure everyone would like to have more tools added to their toolbox, but not as a replacement. I don’t know who ask for it, don’t know if it is of value, OEC was willing to implement it arbitrarily as a replacement, without warning on the paid demo account, and the plan was to implement it as a replacement on the live account in a near future. They could have tested it on the demo 3.5, and consulted their clients before changing. I’m sure there are different versions, but traders reporting their concerns in this thread want a conventional format as discussed many times.

Thanks BF for your intervention, very appreciated. I’m not going to answer your post #43 as to biased and patronising. Being in contact with OEC myself, I have the same info, so let see if and when they are going to repair their blunder.

The demo account is still displaying a defective version of what should be a ‘constant range bar’. What a shame! See the destructive replicative bars of same price range; see the fragmentation of the volume and oscillator. It shouldn’t take days to reverse to the previous version; at least we could resume using it.

Wow! I’ve managed to open a ‘1pips range bar’ on the demo account, just to demonstrate how the new range bar can replicate bars of a same range price, interesting if you need to know the accumulative volume of that range indeed!! By selecting bigger range the duplication of same bars is reduced but still occurring at a damaging rate, from a day trader view point I think the new range bar is useless and could generate losses due to unwanted clone bars and fragmentation of volume and momentum indicators. Guess what? My demo renewal is due next week……….. Thanks to all in this thread, have a good weekend.

Hi DugDug’ The Last info I had from OEC is: the format used in the demos accounts will be released in the live environment in the near future. Nobody cares if you spent months working on strategies using that timeframe, they just release a new one, from nowhere totally different, something you didn’t ask . It is a disaster for the purist range bar trader, please look at post #19. I tried a ‘1pips range bar’ the platform simply froze up. I’m surprised that so little traders are worried about the problem, I thought the range bar chart was popular. If you are concern about the situation please contact OEC as they are going to implement the new format which looks awful so far. I sent my disagreement in replacing the current version, but I’m open to improvement or addition to a new timeframe.

Hi brownsfan, The new implementation, only in the demos at the moment, is worst in my opinion than the current range bars.

All that is going to get very complicated and painfull for those who use constant range bar charts. 1- I use range bars everyday and even if the display seems to be faulty using some symbols and/or timeframes ( as reported by post #1) I am quite happy to use 2pips and 8pis range bars for the ES in the current format. 2- The demo (3.4) is the program I’m paying for and I’m not supposed to play the guinea pig to implement any change. The demo must be as good as the production as it is the one I use for strategies. 3- I don’t mind if 3.5 is not perfect as in development. 4- A change (in 3.4) could be needed to fix the current problem as described in the previous posts re: bars not having the same length. 5- the fault I reported in post #19 describe a different story where you can see that there is multiplication of bars that clogged the chart and as the result stuffed up your chart and indicators so badly that it is unpraticable. If ‘1pips’ is selected the platform crashes. 6- I’ve reported the demo bug to OEC the answer is: The range bars have been modified to match Trade Stations "momentum" range bars. This will be released in the live environment in the near future. My point is: The range bar should be as stated in post #21 Range Bar charts have the following characteristics: • Each bar is the same height because the range is constant. • The close of a bar is always at the high or low of the bar. • The open of a bar is always one tick below or above the close of the preceding bar. • The time period covered by each bar varies. As based on range. If OEC wants to add something and give the choice to their customers I’m very pleased with that approach. But OEC should not implement any replacements that can affect the trading methodology of their clients without warning or consultation. I look at the Demo and my charts were so weird I nearly fall over, something is very wrong here the sooner OEC realise it, the better for everybody. I’ve been supportive to OEC; in this case I must admit I’m very disappointed.

It must be a different feed as the problem is affecting the demo accounts only and demo 3.4 didn’t update lately. Hard to tell what’s going on, it’ll take time before OEC make it right, in the meantime I can’t use the demos anymore. Shouldn’t be so hard to get it right: Range Bar charts have the following characteristics: • Each bar is the same height because the range is constant. • The close of a bar is always at the high or low of the bar. • The open of a bar is always one tick below or above the close of the preceding bar. • The time period covered by each bar varies. As based on range.

3.4 and 3.5 demo range bar timeframe is incorrect.:angry: (Production 3.4 is OK). I sent a message to OEC.

Good point DugDug, The bug seems to affect the overlaying indicators; the extra digits are displayed for the indicators that are creating a new area below the chart.

Hi DugDug, By changing the parameter ‘additional fractional digits’ you are supposed to add digits to the default set by the chart, for ‘ 6JM0’ the interval default is 0.001 that is why you get 3 digits in the data box, using version 3.4.0.8, by increasing the parameter you will get more digits after the coma, this function doesn’t work in 3.5.0.7 version.

Selecting '1pips' range bar (using demo 3.5) will freeze the platform forever. I had to shutdown the platform, no such a problem in production 3.4. So far I'm very happy using 3.4, range bar for ES trading, and I hope all we be fixed before 3.5 is implemented. Last time I checked FDAX the histogram was crooked, so it is important to report any faults to OEC connected to the used symbol, as the problem would not necessarily appear on another market. In an effort to improve the platform in partnership with OEC we serve the benefit of all, when we report a fault, we are not complaining, we are helping, that is my philosophy.

I confirm as shown on my picture, also found the display of range bar totally stuffed up, don’t know what the problem is, but it is obvious that something went wrong in those two cases .

Where do I find adxvma , trendu and trendd? I will be happy to look at the bug and the indicators as well. :-)

This is 3-4-0-8 DOM, you can see the ask histogram in red and display from left to right, as the bid histogram is displayed in green and from right to left it create a symmetry helping to see the wall formations, it has been that way for years and the change in 3-5 (post #2) is no for the better.