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Yeah, one of the things that really stood out to me was how 'infomercial' their gimmicky sales pitches were. And they reminded me of cheap car salesmen when I spoke with them on the phone. I just wanted to believe it was the real deal so badly that I overlooked all of these things. A wiser person would have heeded their own instincts. I urge others to learn from my mistake.

Thanks it's somewhat comforting to know I'm not the only one whose been through this. Like you say it's just apart of my tuition I suppose. One thing is for sure: I'm not giving up here!

Well I finally made what I thought was going to be a great investment. Maybe it was the fancy floor trader jacket he wears or the claims of 6k a month in their trading room. Or maybe it was the fact that CNBC frequently interviews him as if he actually knows what he's talking about. But the fact is I was idiotic enough to shell out 6500 to Larry Levin at secrets of traders! The term 'Secrets' is misleading being that everything in this course is well known and widely discussed on this forum (Value Area, Engulfments etc). I see now that their head traders in the chat rooms aren't making money but consistently losing. And after reviewing their newletters for the past few months which posts daily profit and losses I see that this is nothing new. Why did I not notice this before? I've actually lost less money than them over that same period. I'm not blaming anyone but myself. I wanted to take the easy road and got suckered. Forgive my rant but I am an emotional mess right now because I had to borrow that money from my parents on the advice of the secrets salesman. I should have known they were fakes when they ask me to call and act as a reference to a prospective customer even before I received the course in the mail. They said to say I was satisfied and making money for the last 4 months. For this I got free time in their chatroom which turned out to be a joke. I'm posting this to get it off my chest and also to warn other vulnerable newbies to save their money. Geeze I'm stupid!

Thank you both.

Hi, thanks for the reply. So how about when filling a gap? Would I look for it to fill the futures or cash session close?

When charting the profile for the ES, should I include the final 15 minutes of the futures session, or should I just use 8:30-3:00 cash session time? Also, when filling an opening gap, should I look for it to fill the futures or cash session? Thanks