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Update: The ‘big four’ brought forth for trading ( and actually ALL the archetypes) are powerful, emotionally rooted, capacities. …this way doesn’t bring freedom from emotion… more… it’s freedom of emotion… actions made strong and coherent by emotions’ involvement and contribution… just sometimes ?? … this work opens a numinous realm that can sometimes have the feel of ‘beyond mere mortal’… :haha:I guess that’s why they call them archetypes and develop myths around them, etc ? … ... The work becomes bringing forth the best constellation of these energy conduits for each situation... :helloooo:…AND YET!!!!!! you must not identify with any of them !!!!!! btw… Rande, Yours is already a tiny niche and what you offer is not so much for beginners (which this forum has had a large uptick in…) I know not much will head into your pipeline from here, but please keep at least a minimum presence in here. ie show up every month or so .. so that those who are really ready for this level of work have you as a option. All the best. zdo

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BluHorShu Not sure I understand what you’re asking but if you are trying to list all the combo’s look at the essence of something like Visual Basic Code - List Lotto Combinations with the Lotto CLass or Permutations/Combinations Problem in VBA - CodeGuru Forums to get you going. Why do you need to process it as strings? Wouldn’t it be better to leave all the permutations in binary data type, process them, and maybe only convert the final outputs to string data type ? btw. Ultimately you will need to put routines like this to a dll and also restrict when it is run (ie definitely not on every tick ) hth

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... definitely part of the 'whole' game... and ... defintely a whole different topic from this one...

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Not at all. Simply do a really good job of securing/hiding your physical PM's .. and then "prep" and have faith you will survive all the physical threats coming... ... thinking you can out trade a central bank... now that may be a "little silly"

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Of many answers, here is just one. Because you may be trading only with the trend of a larger timeframe. This entry didn’t work… instead of reversing, you would stop out and wait for the next “Price Action" "setup” :rofl: If I hear "it's system dependent" one more time...

Re: trading without a stop loss There was no “trading without a stop loss” advice coming from me. I’ll repeat my advice for the beginners - Generally, if you’re not going to be at your tradestation watching a position, set the stop. The cost of it getting hit is on balance lower than the alternative ‘costs’ re: Please tell us of a trading system that is not a time bomb that does not use stop losses. Quite a few break out type systems perform better across time with no stops set. Losses are taken by reversing if next signal is opposite direction. re Please limit the response to trading and not investing. Not sure where or how you’re drawing the line between them, so… The only distinctions I make between the two is the level of my direct involvement in operations and the liquidity of the instrument (ie real estate is the only activity close to 'investing' I do and everything else is a 'trade'.) For the post, an up near the cusp example is the varieties of scale trading. It's definitely not a good example for beginners, but it is in reality an example of a viable system and is only a "time bomb" if capitalization and sizing are off.

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the way jaysmith124 just used the term ‘flow’ is not the way I used the term ‘flow’ ie for me "flow" not synonymous with "unconscious competence" - at all …mostly goes to show just how off - topic my posts were …. nevertheless - great post jaysmith124 ...

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FXGirl, re “sustained flow. Perhaps you could clarify that for me. What is the price?” Let’s make the paradigm distinctions clear: Flow as the exception and Flow as the norm. RozTom’s post #114 epitomizes the flow as the exception paradigm, but all the on - topic posts herein are based in that paradigm. Reading the rest of your post, with the content like “I’ve experienced it surfing… I’ve experienced it as a cop… I’ve experienced it in deep meditation… I’ve experienced it as a trader” , etc., it sounds to me like you are securely crowded into the flow as the exception paradigm where flow is a spontaneous or situation bound systemic response of “getting out of the way and letting it take me over”. “Getting out of the way” is not a reliable possibility “if the first body is not clear” “You will / may have ‘flashes’ of flow, but you have NO chance of living in flow.” Post #103. In the flow as the norm paradigm, ““Flow is your natural state… your birthright…” Scott Sonnen. It is nothing special really. … One is either in Flow or in bound-flow While there are gradients to bound flow The transition between flow and bound-flow is a discrete quanta” Post #103 Re: What is the price? "Clearing bound flow in the first body: Simply – mindfully find and fully exhale into all your bindings. “One” at a time – until they are all gone. I put quotes around “One” because they actually always come as a connected group… but that only becomes obvious after you start getting into the subtleties of the work. Use the breath to ‘relax’ into challenging physical positions. The work is simple, but difficult. Done properly, the rate of perceived effort and discomfort is quite high. NO pain! (but) EXTREME discomfort. ... How do you know when you have cleared your bindings? You’ll be in flow. ie you never do ‘try’ to get into flow. The doing you do is to clear the bound flow…" Post #103 Someone mentioned yoga. From the etiology of some of the yoga words I suspect original yoga was about the flow as the norm paradigm, but modern day ‘western’ yoga has been so corrupted it’s now just a ‘stress’ reducer and ‘health’ assist, etc... and odds of finding an instructor who is grounded in flow as the norm paradigm are extremely low… However, utilizing the serious yoga postures themselves are a viable avenue for identifying specific types of bound flow clusters in the body… but the practice of clearing bindings slows to the individual’s pace and place instead of keeping up with a stream of postures. Clearing bound flow in the first body is hard work. Should you be attracted to trying on this paradigm, you would need to make a fairly open ended total commitment to finding and clearing all the bound flow in the first body and also develop ways to ‘dis-create’ in real time, instead of forming new bindings. Gotta go…Trailing off with short blurbs now - hopefully they don't cloud things… just review the on–topic posts for examples if these aren’t clear … it’s sometimes a temptation to get all psychological and consider the egos’ ‘evil’ roles. ... “Devils snare” ... the various developmental fight / "surrender", fear / "trust" turns we have taken in various stages, etc. ... avoiding discomforts, etc or "paying the price" by heading right into them like harry did ... … or fall back into the flow as the exception paradigm and attempt to meditate, train, or entrain your mind to take you to ‘body-theta’ (not a real word, btw ) … ironically, ‘exception flows’ can then become ‘obstacles’ in the whole of the process Hope this clarifies for you. If not - I've disrupted this thread too much already so - let's take it PM... (not selling anything, btw) All the best, zdo.

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“I suspect that flow … is the integration of all levels of our being.” That’s as good a way of putting it as any … but I just do not care anymore about the ‘causes’, theories, ‘scientific’ quantification, etc. Seeing a picture, “seeing a fragmented picture”, “none of which allow us to see the full picture” - trying this, trying that; sticking with this construct, sticking with that construct… … as if we must ‘understand’ a sufficient quantity of the “fragments” in order to enter the state… when actually all these ‘understandings’ may, in many cases, impede entering flow. For the vast majority, “discover[ing] all the dimensions of flow” would not ‘get them out of the way’ of flow at all… Most posts will stay on topic - mind centered, even the plain speak ones and/or zen and/or mediation and/or measurement and/or … and/or … and/or whatever … My posts are : offftoppic: ie they are for those few who ‘need’ flow and are willing and able to pay the price for sustained flow. For them, my message is simple - clearing bound flow from the first body is the only way to sustain flow for LONG periods ... flow for every waking (and best I can tell, every sleeping ) moment for days, weeks, months. No matter how ‘good’ you get at the ‘techniques’ with mind, any uncleared mysofascial, etc. ‘bound flow’ in the first body will repeatedly interrupt one back below the threshold of flow. Without clearing bound flow in the first body, using the mind tools (both classic and modern) to train to know just when to go “non-deliberative”, etc, etc., becomes a discipline to have mind “attention” attempt to instigate regaining flow again with this or that practice, – over and over and over … too fatigue eventually… ie mind is an unreliable, even artificial ‘source’ of flow… …and am not saying that ‘mind’ needs to be removed from the process… a specific ‘blend’ and alternation and succession of the attention types Dr. Fehmi so aptly identified is required during the far from mindless work of clearing bound flow in the first body... also, in my experience, plain awareness is ultimately the best (bio)feedback - especially in the ever changing ocean of peptides, neurotransmitters, hormones, etc…

Hopefully not that much differently from anyone else in flow. The self “trust” and ‘mistrust” issue is simply absent, etc Karoshiman said way early in the thread “Problem is: How To Listen?” That ‘problem is’ is simply not a problem, etc… More operationally, my trading is centered in very granular MarketTyping. These MarketTypes are very transient and I need to be able to switch up systems and switch to that system’s best “dimension of attention” (see FXGirl’s post #100 just above) quite facilely. Also, trading some of the systems comes quite naturally, but others are quite challenging and require more energy to master and implement ( see Steve46’s post #106 ) ... 'needs' for flow... ...my post only departs from consensus neuroscience babble in one area. Our friends all up in neuroscience keep sourcing flow up in the headbrains. Again, see FXGirl’s excellent post just above for an example -“phase-synchronous alpha”. It’s all neuro this, brainwave that, lobe this, hemisphere that, etc etc etc… Many with a ‘neuro’ orientation would simply say I’m just suggesting training the brain to enter ‘state’ (frequency, meditative, whatever the current terms are) while in physical discomfort... on to the departure I’m saying flow starts in the first body. If you are committed to flow, don’t entrain brainwaves or practice mindfulness. Go clear to the body of bound flow – and voila all the alpha’s and gamma’s and attentions, etc will be ‘sittin’ right there waitin’ on you’. An analogy: In my view they are continuing to research and tweak the motherboard performance in compensation - without paying any attention at all to a low, dirty, sporadic power supply. Denise is really starting to get at it in http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/trading-psychology/12508-unconscious-vs-conscious-competence-8.html#post144169 , but I’m still guessing she (and most of her research pals) are still not ready to get down with the practices I’m encouraging. My experience is that it goes far beyond simple neurology and I would bet if they went to the mat for a year they would change their tune too. …and John thanks for all of your plain-speak posts herein Gotta go – some of ya’ll would literally shit in your brains if you knew how much some of these posts ‘cost’ me… and have a great weekend all.

It’s system specific … see http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/trading-markets/11903-hard-stop-placement-great-contradiction.html Limiting your losses is one of the few things you have consistent control over in trading… So - very very generally / for the Beginners Forum / for many systems - If that is the point that will have proven your original position 'wrong' then you should set it, regardless of what 'they' know or do.

Preface: These are HARD CORE comments for those who may be drawn to it ‘as a way’ … ie this post is for you the one freak outlier ‘out there’. You normals out there, please just ignore and keep on gettin’ up - great thread. Note: this post is a little or a lot off topic. As far as I can tell the OP still prefers to maintain the separation between the ‘two competencies / minds’ and most of the other posts are targeted at either how to “keep intuition on call” or whether to trust the most present occurrence of an ‘intuition’ or not. This post does NOT A THING to preserve that separation … hence in that way it = off topic Also, in no way does this post devalue the practices (mindfulness, zen bud, meditation, relaxation response, entrainment, yada yada, etc, etc, etc.) themselves or diminish anything said about the ‘mind works’ either… btw Welcome back, Denise. We wondered why you leave http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/trading-psychology/7422-what-psychologists.html#post86919 If you have time please briefly tell us why over there Thanks. “Flow starts in the first body.” zdo . This means although flow can be accomplished ‘mentally’ (ie it is possible for a parapalegic to sustain flow as long as s/he can clear bound flow) by [ extremely extremely] far, the most direct route to building a ground for flow is through focused, real time work in the first body. This does not mean you have to be in perfect health and fitness to flow. Real flow is not even bound to circumstance(s) at all. But it does mean if the first body is not clear, you will / may have ‘flashes’ of flow, but you have NO chance of living in flow. “Flow is your natural state… your birthright…” Scott Sonnen. It is nothing special really. “Flow One is either in Flow or in bound-flow While there are gradients to bound flow The transition between flow and bound-flow is a discrete quanta” http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/trading-psychology/7576-flow-thyself.html#post93128 Bound Flow develops from … sorry dude, I don’t really care anymore. The practical and generally accepted theories go along the lines of: …bound flow comes from reactions / systemic adaptations to ‘trauma’ / ‘insults’ /.'distress' to the system that, if not cleared within 6 hours, are stored/remembered in the multiple locations ‘out’ in the physical body… that are also associated with particular and general brain memories… and are also chained to the emotional component of the memory yada yada.;. Mix in some stuff from the various, parallel energetic and eastern and western ‘alchemical’ models, yada yada. The term fear-reactivity is synonymous with bound flow… but that term inevitably opens up a trail back to all the various ‘fix your fears and maladaptive emotional reactions with thoughts’ models Development of bound flow / reactions to ‘trauma’ are very ‘individualized’ – ie holding everything else the same, two different people would develop completely different bindings from the same experience… and an individual could develop completely different bindings from the same experience holding everything else the same except for example time of day, etc. Again, I don’t really care anymore about the ‘causes’ …hey, a perfect excuse for a whole bunch of you to get off this bus… Clearing bound flow in the first body: Simply – mindfully find and fully exhale into all your bindings. “One” at a time – until they are all gone. I put quotes around “One” because they actually always come as a connected group… but that only becomes obvious after you start getting into the subtleties of the work. Use the breath to ‘relax’ into challenging physical positions. The work is simple, but difficult. Done properly, the rate of perceived effort and discomfort is quite high. NO pain! (but) EXTREME discomfort. We started with a full bus. We’re down to about 80% off the bus now. How do you know when you have cleared your bindings? You’ll be in flow. ie you never do ‘try’ to get into flow. The doing you do is to clear the bound flow… (If you need some suggestions for ‘beginners’, contact me privately. I’ve already _____ this thread enough…) Finally, this way includes the ‘being’ and ‘loving’ and ‘doing’ and ‘having’ that does not form bindings from new, real time experiences … or re-form in recently cleared ‘places and spaces’ (ie hologram themselves back into existence). One way of describing it is - an in the present, ‘deliberative practice’ - not just in the strife and vicissitudes of trading, but of life itself. And from the ground of ‘non flash’ flow, all the methods and specialties (that the masters and practitioners herein and elsewhere are imo erroneously putting first and prime* ) take on whole new meanings and relevance. … mindfulness, for example - Mindfulness that emerges from within flow is ‘more better’ than mindfulness that is trying to get into flow, etc, etc. etc. …this is an off - topic post... only one guy left on the bus…time to hit the switch …

:helloooo: …to get to non - “out of the blue” with it, how much time per day have you committed to this…and for how many years? __________________ Regards...Tim "I made a mistake by learning something "

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