zdo

"It’s system dependent." zdo A system is a whole of entries, win exits, and loss exits. ie changing any part does not yield a 'optimized' modification of the system… it yields a whole new system. One can conceptually downplay /deny aspects of the whole… but in the long run, better results come from fully acknowledging and dealing with systems holistically. …the system you are currently trading may not be good for more than 3 or 4 ticks. etc. etc. etc So discussing exits in a void is time and energy that could be utilized more wisely. For others to chime in and give you well intended advise based solely on what works for their system, but has no relation or applicability to your system ( ie virtually ‘randomly’ ) is a waste of everyone’s time. The better description of the whole you provide, the more relevant and useful possbible answers from those experienced in systems will be... How do you test your system?

I confess. short version: In the mid to late 80’s, I used ‘greek’ (near*) net zeros to churn commissions from well capitalized account holders. … (* with just a little tilt and "variations thereof" added here and there - that were often based only on from a ‘visiting’ young gun bond cash futures arbtrader from Chicago who was renting office space from me and from a friend who was making a killing in muni options, etc.) :wherestheshakemyheadandwondersmiley: During this time period, I also had two personal accounts dedicated to writing / selling premium. The whole process was not fun for me. It was not at all ‘disastrous’ for the accounts… however, that capital could have been allocated much more wisely…

handle, re: "After reading them, I was so confused". What was confusing to you in the books? Some questions about his training (, not his trading...) How is his personal instruction different from his books? In his personal instructing, 1 ) does he have a progression from the 'beginner training' mode of taking a 'fixed' x number of ticks from each entry (ex: looks like you're taking 10 from cl ) to larger and variable 'targets' ? ... and 2 ) does he (progressively or not ) add any 'filtering' to taking the signals into his training.? Thanks. zdo

:haha: got the runs yet?

handle, Have you read Ross's books? thx. zdo

psoodoCode cId = TL_New( date[ 1 ], time[ 1 ], nl[ 1 ], date, time, nl[0] ) ; TL_SetBegin(cId, Date, time, nl[0] ); TL_SetEnd (cId, date, CalcTime(time, BarInterval), nl[0] + (nl[0] - nl[1])); where nl is the plotted indicator value and (nl[0] + (nl[0] - nl[1])) does the one bar projection calculation to the pricepoint where the extended one bar TL ends... Have a great weekend all...

In base Easy Language (ie non 'OO') the best way is to plot an extension is by actually using a trendline that starts at the current bar indicator value and ends one (or more) bars ahead at the projected 'regressions' of the [1] and [0] indicator value hth

bobbyc re "5% Money management" what do you mean by the term " Money management " ? PS EVERYONE wants your turn dates for Aug. 6 12 20 and 26

… Multiple choice question – which of the following are related to gold? a. When Bad Government Policy Leads to Bad Results, the Government Manipulates the Data ? Instead of Changing Policy | Zero Hedge b. Lakshman Achuthan: The US Entered Recession Last Year And "Is Worse Than Japan In the 90s" | Zero Hedge c.Is The Emptying Of Comex' Silver Vaults Next On The Agenda? | Zero Hedge d. none of the above e. all of the above …. Do you believe “It is only monetization when the market tells us it is monetization.” ? Do you believe paper PM’s are a trap? Do you believe those who can no longer ‘afford’ their paper PM’s have had to sell them? Trapped out the slow, over decades way? Do you believe those who can ‘afford’ PM’s are buying the sht out of it and taking delivery? Do you believe PM’s have no chance of de-coupling from all the instruments the meme and so many posters has them “correlated” with – rates, energy, commod’s, fiats, each other, indexes, and w(hateverelse)tf ? Do you really believe I am talking about dollars per ounce? Did 32 come to mind? Do you believe the “The individual with complete control of all his assets is the only truly wealthy person in a kleptocracy.”? Do you believe a transitional time is coming when PM’s will have virtually no ‘utility’ ? … Hi TLADMIN, If you have already decided my content is really ‘random’ , or if you see zero connections to the ‘price of gold’, or if you feel it is harming other members or your site, or if you think I have ‘dishonest intentions’ , or if you determine I’m posting in the "least untruthful manner" - then censor it. It’s your site, your policies, your traffic, your members… I am not and have never been in the ‘demographic’ from which the 'ever, never' changing ‘voice of trading’ cacophony emerges. From my first day on this site, I have always attempted to stick to my intention to speak to the few – not the many. Sometimes I do better at that than at other times… ...and, yes, sometimes my ambivalence is in sharper relief than at other times... but that should not be interpreted as disrespect for the site or the members... ... and I slip and ‘double standard’ it, so it’s not always apparent - but I’m a big supporter of thread purity... and From my perspective those “random” :Ooff toppic: posts are really :0f topic: ...at this writing there are 907 posts in this thread... ~15 are mine. Of those ~15, 3 or 4 of them are ‘bug’ee ,ie they ‘discuss’ the PM mkts, charts, make market calls / express opinions about PM’s. That leaves ~12 post that are NOT about what distills down to ‘dollar bugs vs gold bugs’. - but imo, they are still on topic, however precariously ... ...sometimes my intended audience is narrowed, mo narrow, so very narrowed Too narrowed for you? If you can’t tolerate a ‘bug’ to ‘non bug about neither’ ratio of 895 to 12 posts ...maybe...

Begin [Offtopic] simon perdition Here?s some hard data on the ?safest? fiat currency Think those are dollars in your wallet? Think again. … And, just for snicks, here's a dam dbp wannabe (… who n33ds to work on more pollyanna in his titling to have any chance at all, btw…) Phoenix Capital Research's blog | Zero Hedge … And… for the jumpers No More Fake News Jon Rappoport Investigative Reporter End [Offtopic] Begin [golf]…

Loosing? [i thought it was spelled losing]

no. wacker is not an official term in anything. wack is.

heresy Here's What Happens When A Central Bank Goes Bust | Zero Hedge Ya'll have a great weekend For all members who want to repeatedly post news updates, please do so in the News forum. Some general rules: create ONE thread only no promotions and links (we will monitor all threads)

The 'rulership' of the dollar was (not so) recently taken over by Hades ...

BobBMagneticModelCollett, here you go... propaganda... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQTh9wfFwG4&feature=player_embedded]3MIN News July 23, 2013: Special Message - YouTube[/ame] all the gold is worthless... btw please don't jump ... and learn to spell --- it's Tallahatchie I didn't know you had a Choctaw Ridge in Johannesburg , I didn't know you was up on it. I didn't even know you had a moon in Johannesburg

"But" ? the dollar has weakened

re: "The skilled are still sitting at their desk at 50, trying to generate an income and accumulate enough savings to one day 'retire'." :helloooo: In here, we're talking here about skilled performance workers - not skilled production, persuasion, or service workers doubling down on that :doh: .... At any “right now” – I’d rather be ‘lucky’ than ‘good’. But across time, I’d rather be ‘good’ than ‘lucky’ … cause if you ain’t ‘good’, you have little chance of properly utilizing what ‘lucky’ brought you… which will keep you in the basically the same boat as the ‘unluckies and bads’ … the best ‘plan’ is to go for ‘good’ AND ‘lucky’

Thanks, MM. An Austrian economist and a Keynesian economist and an innocent walk into a bar… a gold bar Who comes out silver? ie Anything I post in this thread is off topic because it is a thread - for the purposes of trading - about whether gold is bullorbear in relation to fiat currencies … We now return you to your regularily scheduled posting….

and why must the fed "battle" 'deflation' ??

… ‘downtown’ Chicago… brick and mortar exchanges… wacker drive… (you had to be there - NOT! ... however... "The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see." Winston Churchill )

By the way a different “top market analyst”– one who breathes at the same time as me - has said Without some ‘extremely good fortune’, you can’t even get it out of the ground for $800 USD … Three Reasons Why The USD Is Already Worthless … btw, I would probably be singing a different tune now if we didn’t still have plenty of liquid paper PM mkts in which to hedge… :missy:

In English this time ...Believe it or not…this could be a way to bring back a verisimilar of the real Taylor Trading method. Such ‘virtual’ structures are basis for, acknowledged or not, the same types of emergent, informal, loose collusion blocs taylor noticed and leveraged on wacker way back when…

angry man NOT case in point ... just found this charles hugh smith-Bernanke "The Only Game in Town": Really? -------------------------------------- No inflections are coming your way. The Dollar is sound. The US is not bankrupt. --------------------------------------- ...And more and more are stopping trying to wake the zombies

not at all... check your projections

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