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re: "very strict parameters" are those "strict" rules yours or his ? Thanks.

thank you, patuca, for the song so…breaking the silence... “… the vision that was planted in my brain still remains” ie nothing new to rpt Inventories of gold are down and continuing down. Inventories of silver are way up and continuing up. The only shorts are hedges. The only PM specs: long silver. (… first time in a long time both legs of SI/YM sprd on…as at http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/traders-log/7706-v-dow-spread.html) posting – (is within) the sounds of silence zdo

sounds like "The market always tells you what to do. It tells you: Get in. Get out. Move your stop. Close out. Stay neutral. Wait for a better chance. All these things the market is continually impressing upon you, and you must get into the frame of mind where you are in reality taking your orders from the action of the market itself -- from the tape." ~ Richard D. Wyckoff Not really... if you cannot fully reconcile and embrace that you are in this game to TAKE opm, then you won't last long "We don’t see things the way they are. We see things the way we are." Talmud ___________________________________________________________ ps Use your will to condition your choices… instead of trying to use your choices to condition your will…

Patuca , Yes. You are a bridge over troubled waters….

Maybe everyone gets it except me ... but if you have time and energy, would you clarify / define how you are using the word mind here ? Many thanks.

handle, you're not taking rh's ?? thx zdo

Taylor ? (...although it's not typically regarded as a 'swing' method... it really is nothing but...)

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“A tight correlation with the euro is hardly a ringing endorsement to buy PM's.” (not our) MM (?)

did you try Plot1[displace](Value2, "jthma"); (where displace is a positive int. ... 2 in your case...ie Plot1[2](Value2, "jthma"); ) ?

Precisely... Enigmatics, is one of the ways of keeping yourself just inside the cusp of ‘pack membership in the mean’, etc, etc, or etc. or ... pick your way of describing choking, folks … regardless of how good your method always is “next month”... mark my words – you will ultimately need any and all those outsized gains foregone via “Psychology of Managing Trades for an Income...”, or however they are foregone ... In another thread someone mentioned learning from Larry Williams. Instead of oops bullsht, a much more important ‘thang’ to learn from Larry Williams is to press your runs hard... (and no, before you think this is all gamblee jankee - that doesn’t mean going reckless in sizing, mm, etc. at all!... ) Wishing you all the best, zdo

no I'll stick with cappuccino and free kittens especially in this case... anti gun anti gold ... needs love, not more stuff...

All unattended children will be given a cappuccino and a free kitten. zdo46

sepn one litl' thing ociffer, most of these bottles are "too expensive to carry" we wax too hegelian it's your audience we now return you to your regularly scheduled posting...

so you're not really addressing those who are still in the process of building wealth for "10, 20, 30 or 100 years" from now ?

??? imo, the dow needs to cross 24,000 (that's ~ 8600 points higher than the cash is now) to even be remotely approaching Bull... ie if you're not first seriously questioning any nominal chart you look at, you're under the influence of neptune, the god of delusion...

If someone had asked you, would you have told them those were all ‘dollar’ trades? Would you tell them how much net one has to make across these times on “Bonds, S&P, Crude, Gold” to keep up with the 2258.6% over the effective life of the fed fiat, depreciating purchasing power of the dollar? To dollar bulls, dollars are really worth something. To ‘gold bugs’ and ‘abugs’, if dollars are not going to be worth anything at some point – the trend is down - they really are only precariously worth something (like an already broken promise) now… Not trying to pick an argument… Yes “Its all good…” a trader will trade anything that is liquid, moves enough in ‘relative value’, and is not too expensive to carry. .. and I’m right up in here with all the other traders … the point? ... when all is really ‘well’, gold is neither bullish nor bearish… it doesn’t have Historical gold prices % moves per year up OR down like that… it wouldn’t be on your “all good” list… ie folks, concluding that the ‘new normal’ really is normal is delusional, not adaptive … even for “its all good ‘traders’” ie folks, selectively ignoring certain time frames to keep the narrative intact will not work over the long term… and, folks, if you ain’t in it for the long term, best go ahead and find a better use of your time NOW. :campy: Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is a dream. Today is a gift. That’s why we call it The Present…

generally speaking - forum 'questions' are among the most misunderstood, manipulated, abused questions possible on this planet... it is literally dangerous for a member to post a question.

The question is the answer.

I understand . Thanks for clarifying. I was using the term 'beginner training' based off his previously published materials and forum postings in reference, not to the scalping methods, but to the setting profit targets (and stops) parts and the question was about what he is teaching now vs what he was teaching then... So alternate reply to would be maybe not anymore... but it still seems that He does view scalping as the 'starting point'

SUIYA, It wasn’t really ‘churning’ . They were a set of well capitalized clients from silicon valley who were ironically more welcome to selling premium than they were buying it. I had them writing far out in time, far out of money delta matching calls and puts with weekly selling more of one to bring the balance back in to zero delta or to the recommended deviance (hence the ‘churning’ -er- commission revenue) . The ‘recommended deviance’ off 0 often ‘had’ to be neutralized … which was ‘convenient ‘ for the commission revenue stream … some fizz without real CO2 * :rofl: … … and yes, commissions were an issue, even though by that time discount commissions had arrived… still significantly higher than now… It was a good 2 year run. The 'time' for it was over (and the 'happening' was over for me and them) by apr 87 zdo * Pop Rocks!

handle, Thanks for the info. I’m curious because I read Ross in the early 90’s and didn’t get much out of it for “discretionary” trading… however, later I did circle back to some of his (very code-able) ‘patterns’ for intraday automation setups. Imo, beginning short time frame traders are not wasting their time studying Joe’s work… You’re lucky you have the pre-existing aptitudes and inclinations to be able to see ‘mkt representations’ (ie charts, etc.) very similar to how he sees them. Most one on one trainings, actually most of all trading education, is rarely a match with the trainee’s true nature… (but can always be seen as a stepping stone… ) …and meanwhile, the anti-vendor detractors will pop in to essentially say ‘if it ain’t good for everybody, it ain’t any good for anybody”… Repeating an earlier question ( – re the “scalps”) "In his personal instructing, 1 ) does he have a progression from the 'beginner training' mode of taking a 'fixed' x number of ticks from each entry (ex: looks like you're taking 10 from cl ) to larger and variable 'targets' ?" Thanks All the best. zdo

Thanks Rande. I sure wish I could write good like you. I have some insights into this that are even less voltairee than yours...:missy:

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