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Is this 'price insensitive' content? Would you know if it were? Here's Why the Gold and Silver Futures Market Is Like a Rigged Casino... | Clint Siegner | Safehaven.com

Can Someone Find Me A Borrow For This Crazy Investment, Please? | Zero Hedge

"... two different ...commodities..." commodities????? "investment avenue" investment?????

Omg - fkn mitsu is back in the house. Where tf you been? Glad to see you back. I'm not around much... starting June holiday early again this year... Btw Re: “voice in their head” Mits, that’s not the voice I was talking about. The ‘voice of trading’ is not a voice in the head of an individual. Trading industry marketing, the ‘trading education industry’ :snik: , and the volunteer ‘voice of trading’ form a concert / is a borg that spurts propaganda to rookies and the tier of traders at the cusp who are attempting to go from loser to survivor. ... In the population of traders Tier 1 = ~78% loosers, Tier 2 = ~19% survivors Tier 3 = ~ 3% thrivers. Best I rephrase my whole post Original was ... Revised version - hopefully a little bit more understandable ... both equally cynical. :rofl: Ps: btw Hantt is likely long gone... he didn’t know it but he wasn’t seeking a mentor.

left right this 'Inflation', etc is not enough to save an imploding system... so Wealth Confiscation for the Digital Age: the New ?Cash Tax? | Wolf Street And finally for the three readers who deserve this info... did you know that "Real capital is hunkered down and off the grid " ?

thank you aimhi that is one of the best 'voice of trading' / first cusp posts I have ever seen ... but, in my experience, it is advice that never even passes into the minds of those truly aim(ing)hi have a nice life

.. position.all 'hedged' up at 46... btw stops on the hedge arrayed from + 47 to +52 was tempted to take profits and be done with this trade... will stick with plan though...

Couldn’t you just spit when someone posts these kinds of things?? https://www.sprottmoney.com/blog/take-off-your-tin-foil-hat-banksters-admit-to-gold-rigging-nathan-mcdonald.html Trick slide into second base - Bits and PiecesBits and Pieces

THIS DAY 80 YEARS AGO: FDR's Evil Executive Order Required Citizens to Turn in All Gold to the Government by May 1, 1933

“Can you imagine a 8:1 gold/silver ratio price? Currently, the ratio is 75:1.” Keith Neumeyer

https://www.strategicgold.com/gold-spectre-haunting-monetary-system/

TTB, re: ""... in the new OOP additions to easylanguage so there are almost no examples of how to do this stuff." Omg It’s worse than that. ... and now they’ve had years to build some good instructions... and haven’t... For adequate beginner coverage of OOEL, look for OOEL+Concepts_AndroidMarvin.pdf in TS Forum. If you can’t get or find it, pm me with an email address and I will attach a copy to you. re: "Methods... must be called in the analysis or strategy and the code must be placed there...? " Yes. All method code is placed after procedural level declarations , etc. and before procedure code. re: "If so, then the analysis or strategy that seeks to utilize multiple time frames must have that time frame as a 2nd symbol on the chart, correct? OR, can a method in a different chart somehow share info with an analysis or strategy on a different chart " Either would work... ultimately depends on your design preferences and requirements. How many timeframes are involved? re: "different chart ... using the global dictionary to accomplish this??" Global dictionary has some little wierdnesses but can ultimately be designed to run like a global vector. If I remember correctly, the pdf mentioned above uses zigs in his global dictionary example hth zdo

Think of ‘it’s not really OOP’ so much as it is EOP (event oriented programming)... Think of methods as a way of putting function calls ‘in-line’ ... after initial ‘learning curve’, etc. I find them much easier to debug,etc. Think of vectors as a way of storing an array with multiple ‘data’ types in it... once you get the ‘read’ and 'write' syntax down, they are just as manageable and usable as arrays hth

Bobc, re: “What has happened to all your Silver holdings?” As I’ve said about 14 different ways over the last 10 years in here, I’m keeping my physical silver - period. Likely the long term ratio trade rollover of re-exchanging the silver for gold physicals will not re-occur in my lifetime, so I’ll just hold and hedge with contracts when necessary... and try to prepare the kids to do the same... Fwiw, remember that I have been including a hefty % of gold contracts for hedging physical silver for the last few years ... and btw am still 'stuck' with 10% hedged put on months ago... ie haven't been stopped out on the upside in gold yet. Had I been hedging with silver contracts would definitely be stopped out by now... ... a better question would have been “What has happened to all your index trades?” After years and years of NOT doing it, over the last few months I’ve given myself the green light to ‘fight the fed’ on the short side. Mostly small losses and washes... Fortunately these are leading trades that are ~ 10% of my usual size... and guess what? I’m still doing them! Selling every cycle high ... in a pretty good short today... and ready to size on up with stop entries Bobc, re “You can buy from zdo. He is selling” Now you’re making sht up... and hopefully having some fun... Just for the record, my last x posts were heavily laced with facetious. Should have done a better job of labeling them ;offtopic:... most of the time I try to make sure those crazy link posts are labeled appropriately... Re “this is a dollar thread” theme - ie some thoughts on price. > Bobc, have you looked at USD rand in terms of gold much? > What is occurring now in the PM’s (ratio) is what I was ‘discussing’ at http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/market-analysis/12054-gold-bullish-bearish-235.html#post202174 imho, this ratio bounce is not “meaningful” in terms of ‘bullishness’ for PM’s ... (would ya’ll blve much of this silver bounce is ‘medical’? Hell no you wouldn’t!!! ) so, re: the ‘strength’ in gold - what most would term “theres a strong support level” - imho, it’s not collapsing due to collective anticipation of another (global) round of QE, etc. > Bobc, some time back, we nibbled at ‘discussing’ PM stocks. I’m still wondering why you didn’t hold on... re: price insensitive theme - the nonfacetious version PM’s are a good way to accomplish wealth preservation - at any price, at any time.

only the gullible should accumulate PM's everyone else should be keeping their 'certificates' for... bobc, don't believe anything you read... :rofl: World Class Journalist Spills The Beans & Admits Mainstream Media Is Completely Fake | Collective-Evolution or hear thank god they've never been spoon fed like that in financial news reporting... traders and investors can trust the financial media keep adding and 'building' big things in to the brains They Will Have To Re-Write The Textbooks For This One | Collective-Evolution

more reasons you should keep your digital (used to be paper) dollars Every Market Is Manipulated ... See For Yourself Washington's Blog The Entire Status Quo Is a Fraud Washington's Blog :smileyhead:

tbb, Didn't exactly follow all you're trying to accomplish (esp re multiple timeframes, etc.) but if you're putting this code into a strategy, instead of calling a function in the long run you would be better off putting the code in a method and appending (multiple timeframe) returns to elements in a (circular) vector ... call method only when it's needed for real - instead of last bar on chart, etc... hth

More better reasons for ‘you’ not to exchange your precious dollars for gold. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws." Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild "The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from its profits or so dependant on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863 "It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." Henry Ford Federal Reserve Cartel's Main objectives; Manipulate Markets and The Masses | Sol Palha | Safehaven.com reposted link (with insincere apologies :rofl: to those who don’t blame ‘capitalism’, etc...) Of Two Minds - The Root of Rising Inequality: Our "Lawnmower" Economy (hint: we're the lawn) So - let’s hear a proposed solution that doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell... pacifies for a while longer... etc Bernanke's Former Advisor: "People Would Be Stunned To Know The Extent To Which The Fed Is Privately Owned" | Zero Hedge

Here are some more reasons you* should not buy gold Of Two Minds - The Root of Rising Inequality: Our "Lawnmower" Economy (hint: we're the lawn) 1956: "America Peaked Back Then and We've Been In Decline Ever Since" Comparing the 1930s and Today | International Man Credit Bubble Bulletin: Weekly Commentary: Bubble Economy or Not? *’you’... depending on who ‘you’ are. ‘You’ Statists and collectivists would certainly not want or need it. (If ‘you’ think’ you’’re not a statist / collectivist, but ‘you’ wouldn’t buy gold - maybe ‘you’ should check again whether ‘you’ are a statist / collectivist or not... :cackle: ) PS Please forgive me for posting while gold is going up

bobc, You are right. Posters don't show up in this thread unless PM's are already going up... PM"s are usually not a good trading instrument ... PM's are a bandwagon instrument... hardly anyone on the wagon right now... good time to accumulate for wealth preservation... Took a very long easter weekend... played golf a couple times. Now, I'm ambivalent about ever playing golf again... Driver ok. Putter ok. But short game sucks so bad it sucks all the joy out the other two.:crap: and re "golf is sex. 18 times. most times it's bad 'sex' " Looking back across the years, for the most part I'm 'proud' of where my tool and balls have gone (and not gone)... but, even though I've been a guest on some of the fine courses, I can't say the same about where my golf tools and balls have gone and done. This time the only thing I really relished was the color and beauty and quiet and serenity of a few holes on the back nine... ... still got some wheels... back to singles tennis ... win some sex

hey guys ... been out on a 11 day 'easter weekend' ... jpenny, you astutely noted that not all methods are equally enhanced by simn. re your 'trending trading' example, the closer you get to true trend trading the more this is true. For these types of systems your nature needs to be one ready for long waiting ... more often than not while in drawdown... and also for long waiting when in the green. Trend Traders need sim training for that like they need another fkn hole in their head... (btw this is related to my theories about 'getting real... which I hope to have time to explain a little bit... all the while acknowledging it won't be very useful generally because each sentence deserves about 14 paragraphs ... thankfully my audience is very tiny) Basically, the more factors considered in a trade decision, the more ‘simn’ you need. Certainly, the more switching between system or method types you do the more ‘simn’ you need to do. Also, not all methods are equally enhanced by training... or practice. some are better back tested instead of ‘simn’. :haha: but re: I haven’t discussed this yet in this thread but, paradoxically, the desired outcome for traders is to go “sim” as quickly as possible. Will get into this - ie structured practice (and timeframes, etc.) and my 'optimal sequencing' of trader development as time permits... I still think we need to 'repost' this conversation into a different thread... Haintt, we have SO-O-O hijacked your freakn thread !

jpmonybags, re: When I have a theory I’ve really settled on, I’ll be glad to let ya’ll know. I’m going on my own ‘facts’ - observation of hundreds of beginning traders - mostly accounts in the brokerage business, also a sizeable percentage of ‘trading buddies’ and associates,... and :shame: even some seminar 'victims' . Most of these encounters occurred before the internet - certainly before social media - which makes for a different quality of relating and ‘disclosure’ I’ve found... Also, I have now mentored 24 traders from whom I compiled ‘history’/profiles. When they started with me were at the 2nd cusp. ie almost all where surviving / inconsistently profitable, almost all had around 5 years experience already... (Generally, they had obvious blocks to flow and were amenable to my approach - but that’s another topic.) Of all those samples, the ones who got real at the beginning grouped heavily with those who made it and those who paper traded (and back tested, etc) grouped heavily with those who were ‘loosers’ There’s something those who spontaneously 'get real' at the beginning get at an unconscious level about life (and maybe trading) ( ... that the voice of trading ‘thinks’ sim will get it for them and it won’t !!! .) I have some ideas but don’t have time today to dig into it even with my usual hafass, obscure descriptions... I have never associated an easy/easier road for those who ‘get real’ out the gate. “ over anxious knuckle heads” :rofl: is just one of the serial challenges they encounter...

We should move this material to a different thread for the general audience. hantt may be long gone... jpenny, I am loathe to think of you as "the voice of trading" too...  but then you fall in line with “Truth of the matter is, that it probably won't make a difference whether you trade "live", trade "sim", or just sit and watch.” ... Comments: Yes - which one a beginning trader does won’t cause success. But, which one a beginning trader does is an indicator of whether s/he can make it through the ‘early years’ ... much like higher mcat test scores indicate higher probs of making it through med school. Sad, but it appears you ‘normals’ simply cannot fathom this. Ya’ll are driven by imagination of what the 'other' is like instead of real experience. So, all the industry driven ‘programming psyop’ continues. In part I’m simply saying beginning traders can find out much quicker than most do whether this game is for them or not. But much more importantly ----- beneath these bhvrs of which one you do first / how you start are crucial inner attitudes and virtues. Which one you do is actually an expression of those... and these are the factors that will determine whether or not you “Find your own way!” zdo. Those who spontaneously 'get real' out the gate have an 'undocumented' edge... a few noobs may be able to learn from this... 'voice of trading' bs notwithstanding... micheal av, I agree with you about not being influenced and inhibited by the ‘statistics’. Over the years, I have posted quite a bit about ‘being a sample of one’ and ultimately was getting at the same with “When you first trade, you and you alone place yourself at one of the two cusps.” I do advise, however, that beginners look at these ‘statistics’ of high failure rates and at least conclude “I should avoid what the crowd is doing big time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. While I'm at it, I should probably avoid big time what the 'voice of trading' memes are telling me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!." Sad, but it appears ‘normals’ simply cannot fathom that either “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people who want to live in slavery as it is to try to enslave a people who want to live in freedom.” ~Niccolo Machiavelli // "Markets are designed to allow individuals to look after their private needs and to pursue profit. It's really a great invention and I wouldn't under-estimate the value of that, but they're not designed to take care of social needs... .... Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected... " ~ George Soros // // “You do not believe. You only believe that you believe.” –Samuel Coleridge “Belief is a wound that knowledge heals.” –Ursula K. Le Guin

As noted earlier, have been building a long scale trade in far far out CL futures... in the green now... Planning to start more heavily locking it in with shorts on closer month contracts on approaches to ~46... ...will still build this scale trade for a couple more years ... planning to add to it all the way down into the low teens... btw - scale trades hog up capital and :helloooo: take a long time ... :missy: not in my wheel house really...

Again - I think you're being very inconsiderate. I wouldn't treat my wife that way... You just now picking up on that? dang bob, you are slow. :missy: