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raffa, I have used NeuroProgramer for years ( but am increasingly using MindWorkStation with WildDivine HRV feedback - see below) Great products, good price points. I believe there are already a couple threads up on TL about this – search and maybe the search functions will function I should note that I personally do not use the app to “entrain”. To me, we’re already entrained enough. All my protocols have the expressed intent of training facile, choiceful shifts in BW frequency ie adaptability… (For similar work goog Shakti, but my stuff is differentiated from Persinger’s – with far less ‘profound’ scopes, more selective (ie less random) sequencing than his, and actually more inclusion of the negative / stressful / effortful elements… ) …and fwiw - To me, all the subliminal / suggestion / self-hynosis / affirmation stuff is total crap.... built on some really invalid assumptions about the pervasiveness of the whole brains' use of language... etc Just like staying in physical shape, I typically do sessions 3 times a week – whether I need them or not. (Speaking of staying in shape… imo most ppl’s trading would be enhanced more by using that same time getting and staying in just right physical shape than by going under the headphones) Bottom line = I basically see consensus application of the technology as a temporary but possibly useful crutch. If you are going with the consensus uses of this technology, spots like Traders using NP - Transparent Community Forum may help. In essence the key is knowing what you need and WHEN you need it… then developing and using protocols (/ crutches) that help. Actually doing the work towards high self awareness of your patterns and WHEN they happen is imo far, far more important than ‘running external agents’ into your head… Transparent may still have free trials and money back guarantees so give it a trial. You'll quickly know whether you have the 'energy' to get into the program(s) and leverage them... it's not for everybody... hth

Line Changes: Extended Active Green StayLine out at same small angle down Deactivated red lines coming up at steepest angle in a really long time Will synch up line lengths more soon… Position Changes: Short (as of 6/29) at ~ 9930 Sep Order Changes: Moved StayLine stops down to ~10535 Sep Comments: None really… prices could still go way up nominally and still be going ‘down’… Have a great weekend all...

Hi, I'm a big Rande fan, but have a previous family commitment tonight. MMS or Rande, will this meeting be recorded for download later? Please consider doing this for those of us who can't make it. ...or maybe another member can record it locally for us. Thanks. zdo

Line Changes: Active Green StayLine decrementing on down… All red lines deactivated since short entry Will synch up line lengths soon… Position Changes: Short (as of 6/29) at ~ 9930 Sep Order Changes: StayLine stops down to ~10555 now... started higher... Comments: Transitioning back into trading after long vacations… early morning tee times (to beat the heat) will still be ‘interfering’ for another couple of weeks then will be back at it … jury is still out on whether I will continue the StayLines thread – I may be the only person benefiting from the experiment …

Line Changes: Nothing of note… extending stay lines and entry lines out way ahead of the action Removed the lower downsloping trendline. Moved both the other trend lines down closer to April price pivots. No angle changes. Will be interesting to see if the top one has any charge… Position Changes: None … still flat Order Changes: Moved re-entry orders from ~ 9766 Sep to > 9930 Sep Comments: “Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in”… … seeing price did make it to the upper horizontal line… wasn’t around any charts … Extending stay lines and entry lines out way ahead of the action just to see how it turns out… extended them even more since taking screenshot... steeper and converging after 7/1 As long as the long in Silver is still performing well or the indexes are not crashing, will really not be too concerned about being actively short the Dow side of the spread…. See ya’ll in a couple of weeks… maybe… Stay Lines are experimental … that’s what makes them appropriate for Trader’s Lab… but opening the site up now (vs even a couple of weeks ago ) - am not so impressed with the direction it is taking… All the best, zdo

Line Changes: Pushed extensions of Active Green Stay Line out more than usual – see comments for why… Activated upsloping Red line – see comments below … Reset lengths of some of the red lines… Position Changes: Went flat Jun at ~ 9970 this AM. – see comments … Order Changes: Rollover re-entry orders entered arrayed around 9766 Sep ‘Stop losses’ still sitting at ~ 10910 Sep Comments: Will not be actively browsing and posting very much for a month or so - going on extended vacation / trips. Pushed lines out farther than usual – mostly just as an exercise. Will be around Friday but will probably only come in for a couple of hours in the AM Went flat Jun this AM for rollover (see green ‘dot’ on image) but am waiting to enter short Sep. Will trail up a stop under Activated upsloping Red lines for that. In ideal world, would re-enter (and add to) position up around the upper horizontal trend line, but have low expectations that will actually happen. Will only be looking at this every few days. If I post at all it will be just position changes sans images … and then likely catch up images upon my return if I still have any interest in posting this boring spread trade…

Line Changes: Resumed steeper angle of Active Green Stay Line extensions. Reset lengths of some of the red lines… Starting to vaporize two of the three downsloping trendlines, but will leave them in for experimentation ( since I don’t know squat about trendlines :helloooo: ) to see if any of them hold a charge… Added another horizontal line at ~ 10500 Position Changes: None. Still short net 25% allocated ~10980 Jun. Order Changes: Cancelled Jun Buy stop losses. Set Sep at ~ 11910 Comments: In my intraday trading I have been trading currencies in 100% trending systems only for over a month now. What a great month! Trading 100% trending systems only is ending today... Comments: Silver lagging gold… just a comment… :missy: Comments: Planning to start hedging silver physical position at ~ 22 (not related to this trade btw.) Comments: Shanghai: 1990 vs. 2010 Comments: increasingly off topic Bruce Krasting: Hungarian Bond Story Your Brain on Computers - Attached to Technology and Paying a Price - NYTimes.com

Line Changes: 'Recalibrated' lengths etc of Active Green Stay Line and again / some more ... Reset lengths of some of the red lines… Added yet another tentative downsloping trend line closer to price… one way to immediately get Stay Line outside of trendline. Other way is happening on original downsloping trendline via near 0 degree angle of Green StayLine… These red trend lines are not actionable at this point... ... StayLines are supposed to be low brainer, not no brainer Position Changes: None. Still short net 25% allocated ~10980 Jun. Order Changes: None. Buy stops still clustered ~ 11820 Jun Comments: off topic Bruce Krasting: SNB Folds Europe's Core Is Burning, As Austria Next On The Implosion Radar; German, France CDS Blow Out | zero hedge Comments: off topic How much longer will this spring's 'volatility' party last? Have a great weekend all.

MadMktScientist Do you trade GPDUSD? If so, why? Thanks. zdo

Long ago I managed traders and CTA’s . Give me someone who embodies a passion which can overcome any obstacle over a ‘professional’ poker player anyday. It’s just a good sign If he or she is skilled at poker - not a deal maker. “Knowledge without mileage equals BS.” — Henry Rollins

For sure being a full time poker player is an indication of interest and aptitude at zero sum performance work (instead of production work) For sure being a good poker player is an indication of being proficient at quickly assessing probabilities. For sure being a successful poker player is an indicator of above average realtime ‘centeredness’ – ie emotional balance, etc. Beyond that, the correlations start to fall down. Being good at assessing the table and the hands does not default to being good at assessing a market. Different ‘talents’ of mental re-presentations involved, etc… Also, there is a certain ‘swiss like fortune building’ orientation vs a ‘playa make a pile of money’ orientation that will sooner or (unfortunately ) later filter a lot of these candidates. UB might be have some insights and experience with his hires that he could share…

...how do you spell Suri ? ...

Line Changes: Flattened the angle of Active Green Stay Line extensions. Reset lengths of some of the red lines… Added tentative downsloping trend line closer to price… one way to immediately get Stay Line outside of trendline. Other way is happening on original downsloping trendline via near 0 degree angle of Green StayLine… Position Changes: None. Still short net 25% allocated ~10980 Jun. Order Changes: Buy stops moved to ~ 11820 Jun

jojo, Thanks. Getting ready to leave now so will have to be brief Are you using ZigZagFibs v 2.5? If so, you could probably ask StratMan or Suri which arrays are holding the bar numbers of the pivots. Since zz's don't register until right strength met, you would probably need to be holding the values of what you want summed in an array so you could 'go back' and start at the right place, catch up your sum, then proceed real time.

jojo, if it's not too much trouble could you change the background color and upsize the font a bit and repost the png what are the ovals? pivots? third, fourth and sixth don't seem to be pivots...

Have you looked at SwingHighBar, SwingLowBar functions ?

Exactly. These days I’m trading far more currencies than indexes (much more bang for the buck) and I was sorta thinking the same thing - I doubt many on the big desks are poring over charts with 66 'intelligent agents' cranking away on the screen… no doubt a percentage of them are, but not many…

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Here’s BF point from way back early in the thread… 14 trades – all winners. Not the slightest consideration (mental or coding) of ‘commercials’ or even volume (nope -bottom indicator ain’t volume…) no Heads Up Display no cross time frame, etc Intelligent Agents – except the ones inside my head and they aren’t that bright no intensity readings… not rocket science… if I can do it, many of the traders who are a lot smarter than me on here can too… btw normally style on price chart is not +'s ... temporarily changed it for comparison purposes...

UB, I agree with TMBTC... posting PM's without their agreements is south of slimeball. Also, really you could have spent about the same amount of energy as with the posting in privately discussing and comparing concepts with Boomerangas about his questions without giving away an 'edge'. You come on here like you're going to contribute, someone like a Boomerangas asks some specifics, you backhand him, then have the nerve to get all self righteous... small wonder more and more are feeling your posts are at least a waste of time... if not worse... I do 'understand' proprietary. My understanding, gained from experience, is that most public discussions of 'edges' are a waste of time. Many private ones are too. But... Here's an actionable + for your charts - please recruit elsewhere... thx

Line Changes: Extending Active Green Stay Line on pretty much same angle. All red lines just marking time… Position Changes: None. Still short net 25% allocated ~10980 Jun. Order Changes: Buy stops moved to ~ 11880 Jun Comments: Picture is already hours old...Not much to say here… thank goodness… don’t have time to say it…

hm now it's letting me post an attachment...

Tams, that was not my impression of it - however they may have changed it since I was last on. Will check it out... cunparis, et al Let's put together and publish a generic template for one of these in EL first. Then from that foundation, we all can develop and or collaborate. Find attached picture of what may (or may not) be a facsimile of ...tweet.ocm logic It is based on very simple O C algo that can be used anywhere (even fx) I'm quite sure this is more crude than what they are doing but it is more likely to start sounds when they do than PaceOfTape (in haste and error I likened tweet to PaceOfTape yesterday - wrong) This way may actually be way off and totally bogus ... it’s just a guess at the simplest generic solution (ie different from the ideas discussed yesterday) so at least we'd have a functional template going... 'noises' start outside the lines and intensify with bar height... it's not letting me post attachments right now ?? so will post picture later Cunparis, are you using OctalSound20.dll. a PlaySound Replacement DLL "...TradeStation’s PlaySound has a small performance issue. Each time a sound is played it reads the sound from your hard drive and plays the sound. So we wrote a DLL which would load a sound into memory from the hard drive once and play the sound from memory each time requested thus saving lots of hard drive reads over a day. " Thread discussing the issue: https://www.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=59310 and file at https://www.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Result=1&Topic_ID=95248

Again - are you asking how to make the sounds or the logic they are using to trigger them? If you're asking how to make the sounds - dll's and wavefile templates are available in TS forum If you're asking about the logic - My impressions of it (and it's been a while since I was on ) is it's simply a directional and lagging* 'pace of tape' http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/f46/pace-tape-measure-trade-intensity-detect-7917.html (*the lagging could be from iLatency or from a higher threshold filter... never found out) Best way to see it 'historically' would be to ADE it... ... I have some (slightly more complex) ideas re one of these. However, to implement one, I would almost certainly have to get programmer involved - so can't participate in an 'open' project. If you (and / or a couple others who are into EL development) want to make a project of this, PM me...

cunparis, What platform are you on? Are you asking how they play the 'tweets'? or Are you asking what their logic is for popping, etc.? zdo